Creation or Evolution?

I think that people perceive creation to be an INSTANT thing - hence my word Schwamm above. But, if only we slow down the concept of creation ... when something evolves, creation is occuring, but it doesn't happen overnight.

Even in Christian school when I was a child, we had a couple honest teachers that would remind us that "six days" to us and "six days" to God are most likely way different time spans. They were smart enough not to say so much that they could lose their jobs, but they did encourage us to use the brains we were given to think through such things on our own.

'Whatever illusions certain paleontologiest and origin-if-life theorists many have embraced, astronomers recognized that billions of years was hopelessly too brief for atoms to assemble into living things free of any input from a divine Designer....' 'The Creator and the Cosmos' Hugh Ross, PH.D. p78

Awesome reference!
Thanks for sharing.

Soundbites don't make facts.

wth??

The word creation is not limited to a definition of something being manifested from nothing, religious beliefs or otherwise. The word can also qualify to describe something manifested onto or within something already in existence, which was not previously there.

Therefore, logic denotes that evolution and creation can be understood as one and the same.

The creation story in the Bible is just that, a story! The ancient writers wrote about how they imagined creation to occur. Genesis has two beginnings written by two different authors so there's proof of that so you're right about it being folk tales.

This doesn't mean there isn't some truth in them though. For everything in the universe to be an accident the odds are miniscule, rather almost impossible.

By the way the Israelites were certainly not semi-literate and many of their ideas are simply incredible and hold much truth; ideas that many modern minds simply couldn't stretch to.

This is true, and as allegories go, it's not that bad a creation myth. I do wonder why we're supposed to be held accountable for 'original sin' by many doctrines when the persons committing that sin are allegorical, though.

Nice clear comment. The concept of evolution is certainly easier to believe isn't it.

Please clarify. If God created us why does that mean we had to have been on the earth from the beginning?

Why must there be a higher being to create all that?;-)

Well, how else do you explain the planets, the sun, the moon and other things without there being some higher spirit or higher deity to create it?

Nebular hypothesis.

http://scienceblogs.com/e...

Cheers spongin!

Ah all it really tells me is that humans classified humans and monkeys into certain groups. It says that if something evolves from a species then that original species doesn't have to die off. I asssume though that there's a law of the fittest and strongest surviving and that eventually the weakest do die out.

You might say that perhaps monkeys arn't weaker than man but then, why did they feel the need to evolve?

The Darwinian picture of man evolving in stages is in opposition to the theory I just read because people in the first stages of the picture no longer exist. Yet monkeys do.

I just assume that we're not the same species.

I think the problem you're having is a misunderstanding of the concepts of Evolution and Natural Selection.:-(

To put my point another way, I think evolution encompasses creation in slow-mo. Further, the Schwamm concept - Adam & Eve etc, seems to me to be a little far fetched, and indeed, well able to be used for the purpose of gaining reverance for any said religion.

However, I do think that religion is the greatest evil that this planet has ever seen.