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Before it was terrible. Now THE 2008 OLYMPICS AINT WORTH S**T !!!!!  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues 4 years ago

For those of you who are familiar with my discussions lately, I have been extremely upset with the Chines government and anyone else in charge of helping with the 2008 Olympic games in Beijing, China. The way that innocent families were forced to sacrifice their daughters due to their looks, people being killed, pollution etc. Some of these things couldnt be helped others could have been handled differently. But last night I truly saw the Olympics for what they were. A fraud. Yesterday was the girls individual events in gymnastics. Alicia Sacramone did her vaults with few minor errors and was penalized extremely. Mind you that she didnt fall or anything. Now up comes China's gymnast and the girls vault had a high difficulty level. When she completes the vault she falls to her knees. This is a major deduction of points. According to the olympic sports analysts, with all the errors the chinese gymnast had it should've taken her down a full point and a half below all other girls. NOT She got a medal and Alicia didnt. WHAT? How fair is that? Bella Carolli was with the olympic analysts and said he had never before seen such an injustice. He was literally crying. COme on! How fair is that? I will never watch to Olympics again. Im sorry but China did a terrible job with hosting the games. I have never felt so disinterested in anything in my entire life. dl

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. youngsweetheart (619)   ranked 2,796 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

I agree - those scores were ridiculous. Virtually every gymnast except Alicia stepped out of the bounds or even fell and she only scored higher than ONE of them. Absolutely unfair.
I will not boycott other Olympic games, and I will continue to watch the gymnastics event finals. But I'm waiting to see how else the scores will be screwed up - clearly the Chinese gymnasts are being favored. They are many times getting higher scores than they deserve (although not always). It's absolutely unfair and ridiculous that it's being allowed to continue like it has been.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

If we can see this from the television, why cant olympic officials see this. I believe they do but dont want an international incident on their hands. This is a reason to show our distaste for the ongoing infarctions that Chinese officials feel its okay to committ. dl

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2. myLot reputation of 59/100. DancingFeather (338)   4 years ago

I am not watching the Olympics because what China did and also it is no longer what the Olympics set out to be.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

If it wasnt for the fact that we have history books, I think that the Olympics will have a difficult time separating itself from these games in the future. I think that this is what people perceive the games to be about. Unfair rules and judges, a government that is corrupt, and cheating. I am all done with these games for a while. I only wish their was somewhere we could voice our opinions. dl

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3. myLot reputation of 89/100. soccermom (1810)   ranked 767 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

I totally agree with you! I was going to skip the Olympics, but then my kids wanted to see the opening ceremonies, and we watched it together and, being the open minded individual that I am, thought maybe I had been too hasty in my decision to ignore the Olympics jsut because they're in China. So I was blown away by the opening, then found out about computer generated fireworks, etc...
The whole issue with the Chinese gymnasts is just a travesty. But it's not just gymnastics this is happening in. It's womens diving too. Granted our female divers gave less than stellar performances, but there were divers from other countries that were scoring low on dives that had been done just as well or better than the chinese.
Not to mention now there are stories surfacing of Christians having their bibles confiscated by the Chinese, restrictions being put on journalists, etc..the whole thing has become ridiculous.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

Normally I dont pay attention to rumors. In this case, I believe every single one of them. Since day one there has been nothing but innuendo. What they did to their own people performing in the opening ceremonies was bad enough. It doesnt surprise me in the least that they would deface bibles, put restrictions on journalists etc. They need to be held responsible. Isnt their something they can be held accountable for. I guess being *ss**les isnt a punishable offense.dl

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4. myLot reputation of 90/100. DCMerkle (735)   ranked 174 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

....and the scores just keep on getting more ridicules. I understood the break down of the tie breaker between the U.S. and China, but the one thing that I kept thinking was why did they change the scoring system? I missed that I know, but was it absolutely imperative that it be changed? Now, it seems to me that the OIC had to approve of the software that is being used, but didn't they work the bugs out of it before it was used in this olympics? China just seems to be taking advantage of the
whole thing

Another thing that I find wasn't sure of, but tonight they mentioned the Australian judge not being fair in the scoring of Nastia? Are we going to have another judge investigated like we have before?

This will be an olympics that will be remembered for a long time to come.

DCMerkle


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

I think you have said it all. There's nothing that could change my views on these games. I feel for the athletes. These people have trained for the competitions of their lives. Its sad that all that was overshadowed by negative publicity. I am shocked at China's behavior. You would think that they wouldnt want the world to know that they're cheaters, and dont respect its own citizens. I guess not. We may never know what they were thinking. Thanks for you response. dl

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myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

I dont think that China is totally responsible for anything. What upsets me is that the Olympics stands for unity. Competitors spend most of their lives training for these events. Just because China has chosen to live by certain government doesnt mean squat when it comes to the Olympics. The point is to set your personal beliefs aside and showcase the natural talents of a nation. CHina manipulated the entire thing from beginning to end. From not being cute enough, to the suggestion that their gymnasts are not the correct age. Isnt it funny how the truth regarding these issues will never be really be found. You are correct that not all judges are Chinese so its not their fault. It has been suggested by persons close to several of the judges that they were intimidated and/or threatened to vote in certain ways. We'll never really know. None of these questions will every really be answered to anyones satisfaction. I feel sorry for the people of China. They are in the middle of all this dl

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. youless (21429)   ranked 148 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

You have to ask the judges about the scores they gave to the gymnasts. Aren't they much more professional than us? We are audiences, and how much we really know about the gymnastics? Today the scores are combined by A and B scores. And you have to also see the difficulty.
Just because USA lost it and we won it and you said it's unfair. Such kind of unfair facts are many, including the past Olympics.
You have to know the judges come from different countries. And it's not possible that all of them judge the winner just because she is from China. It doesn't make a sense.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

I do agree that its not a specific country as far as the judging is concerned. I dont think that the judges are all trying to be intentionally unfair. I know there is also alot of pressure in being a judge. I dont care what country it is, I think there is alot of side deals and bias going on. The information I based my opinions on was Yahoo News. I get no kind of personal satisfaction bashing someone. I am a good person my friend. I am not out to get anyone. I am however, upset at the lengths the people in charge of putting on these games went to be the best. I am sorry for all involved. I have friends from many nations and we are all equally upset at the way things have been going. dl


myLot reputation of 96/100. youless (21429)   ranked 148 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

If you think so, I am afraid that all the judges won't be qualified to be the judges. I just think how difficult it will be to control all of them. I know China unexpectedly to win so many medals. Some people are upset because they are no longer the number one.
If you saw the 10M diving match, you will know that the winner is from Australia. Yes, it's out of my expectation but it's true. I am a little upset because we lost it, but I have to say that the Australian diver did better. So he deserved the gold medal. You have to see our Chinese also applauded to this winner. Just be generous and kind to them. Don't ever expect others to fail, you get to do better than others.

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7. myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)   4 years ago

Did anybody actually think china wouldnt cheat or lie or anything else to win? Come on they are commies, and they are chinese, they have to be the best in anything no matter what. Hell before all this crap, I knew they would pull something. Hell four years ago when they announced it would be held in china i knew it was a bad idea.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

I hate to say it friend, but I agree with every word. China didnt care about anything except winning. Shame on them. THe sad part is that they make their own rules to fit their situations. If china wants someone to be a certain age. Thats what they are. Its a travesty of justice.dl


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yeah. Damn Icant find the pic now. I saw a picture awhile back, in the middle was the wall of the olympic grounds, and one side was the olympic stadium and all that, all nice looking and all that. On the other side was regular china and all its squalor and everyone looked dirt poor, which they were. Hell did you know china stopped all the factories during the olympics in bejieng? That way the pollution levels would be safe for all the visitors. Hmmm ok, what about all the people that live there year around and it not being safe for them? Oh wait we dont care about them, I forgot. Its just stupid.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. cyberfluf (2897)   ranked 201 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

I only watched the opening on television that was quite theatrical and I like that, all the colours and the artists performing. I didn't watch any of the games and judging from your discussions I am happy I didn't.

I used to watch rhytmic gymnastics and ice skating games all the time, not olympic ones but the general games that are one every week. I allways wanted to be a rhytmic gymnastist or an ice skater but because of my balance impairment that's pretty much not possible rasp. So I figured watching it would still be something, and so I do know a little about how points work etc. for errors made.
Dropping to your knees is indeed a mayor error, even if you land and made a little hop there are points taken off.

It's a shame for the olympics that such injustice can be done without people taking action. I feel sorry for all the people who have trained for months and months and are now heavily penalized for small errors that are usually not penalized that heavy.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

In my opinion, it was a disaster. So many innuendos of cheating and dishonesty. Only china will know the real truth. I am surprised at the way the Chinese government portrayed themselves. It was positively, that is for sure. I am glad it's over. I hear they are investigating some issues of deceit. It is said that they will be banned if any of it is proven to be true. As I said, I am glad its over. dl


myLot reputation of 98/100. cyberfluf (2897)   ranked 201 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

Good thing that at least they are seeing in to some of these issues, it sounds like it sure was terrible and I'm glad I didn't watch. If there was indeed deceipt in the games they deserve to be banned from the olympics.

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9. myLot reputation of 88/100. joyadalia (798)   ranked 573 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues   4 years ago

Oh, I really wasn't watching the Olympics but if the other didn't get the points then maybe there were other things that were looked into not only the faults but also the execution and stuff like that happy.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dloveli (1582)   ranked 116 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

From the latest update, It seems theyve started an investigation. They must have found enough evidence to look into the matter further. I am glad its over. This is the first time I have really been disgusted by what's going on. dl


myLot reputation of 88/100. joyadalia (798)   ranked 573 out of 4,344 in have discussion on day to day issues  4 years ago

I hope it gets resolved soon sad.

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