My mother fell today and was admitted to the hospital - for pneumonia.
By Wendy
@jerzgirl (9384)
United States
September 2, 2008 6:47pm CST
Mom didn't feel too well this morning, so after breakfast, she went to lie down. Then her lunch came (Meals on Wheels), so she went out to eat. She did really well, eating almost every bit of it. I had lunch then, too, and when we were both done, she sent back into the bedroom and I went into mine. I heard something fall - it sounded like her walker with her oxygen tank in it. I could see it on the floor and was just getting up to go get it for her when she called out for me to come in to help her. I got in there and SHE was on the floor, too. She had reached for something and the walker went out from under her and she followed it down.
Mom's 91, has had emphysema for almost 20 years, and is blind because of macular degeneration. So, a fall for her is a bit more than an inconvenience. I wanted to pick her up the way I was taught to pull people into our raft when we were white water rafting - under the arm pits and pull with your body. She wouldn't let me do anything to help get her up. She kept saying, just let me get settled....just let me get settled. So, I called next door, thinking someone would be home there, but there was no answer. Finally, I called the local police department to see if someone could come help get her up. The call went through to the 911 center even though I hadn't called 911. They sent an officer AND the ambulance. Well, the officer got her up and she was in the bed sitting when he asked if he should cancel the ambulance - just as he said that, the EMTs walked around the back of the house.
I decided they should check her just to be safe. When they did, she began to panic, telling me she needed her nebulizer, to hurry she needed her nebulizer. The more she panicked, the more she couldn't breathe, and the more she couldn't breathe, the more she panicked. We got her into her wheelchair and out to the kitchen. I had her nebulizer ready when the second EMT came back in from getting their med packs. They checked her blood oxygen and found it was way low, in the 70s when it should be in the 90s.
They said they thought she should go to the hospital just to be safe, but none of us expected her to have to stay. The paramedics met them at the firehouse and rode with them while I went ahead to meet them at the hospital.
Well, they xrayed her lungs, heart, hips and legs and found pneumonia in her lungs even though she hadn't complained of shortness of breath before falling. She just didn't feel well. A doctor came in, one we hadn't seen before and kept repeating his name to her and she wasn't getting it, even though he was on her "good ear". Finally, he took off his name tag and stuck it in front of her face and said, "here, this is my name." I couldn't believe it! I looked at him and said, "um...she's blind." Mom didn't miss a beat, "Yes, I have macular degeneration and can't read anything at all any more." This man didn't even look ashamed or apologetic! I will be saying something to someone once I know more about where.
I ended up leaving her in the ER after being there 6 hours. I had the worst headache and couldn't stand it any more. I knew she'd be OK and which floor she was going to (not the room yet, though) and came home to take some Advil. I've also let everyone know who needed to know that she's admitted and why.
But, other than your prayers and good thoughts for my mother, I have this question. Or these questions. Have you ever gone to the ER for yourself or someone else and been admitted for something entirely different than you went in for? And, have you ever had someone behave like that doctor did to anyone, let alone someone so elderly and disabled? How did you handle it?
Mom's 91, has had emphysema for almost 20 years, and is blind because of macular degeneration. So, a fall for her is a bit more than an inconvenience. I wanted to pick her up the way I was taught to pull people into our raft when we were white water rafting - under the arm pits and pull with your body. She wouldn't let me do anything to help get her up. She kept saying, just let me get settled....just let me get settled. So, I called next door, thinking someone would be home there, but there was no answer. Finally, I called the local police department to see if someone could come help get her up. The call went through to the 911 center even though I hadn't called 911. They sent an officer AND the ambulance. Well, the officer got her up and she was in the bed sitting when he asked if he should cancel the ambulance - just as he said that, the EMTs walked around the back of the house.
I decided they should check her just to be safe. When they did, she began to panic, telling me she needed her nebulizer, to hurry she needed her nebulizer. The more she panicked, the more she couldn't breathe, and the more she couldn't breathe, the more she panicked. We got her into her wheelchair and out to the kitchen. I had her nebulizer ready when the second EMT came back in from getting their med packs. They checked her blood oxygen and found it was way low, in the 70s when it should be in the 90s.
They said they thought she should go to the hospital just to be safe, but none of us expected her to have to stay. The paramedics met them at the firehouse and rode with them while I went ahead to meet them at the hospital.
Well, they xrayed her lungs, heart, hips and legs and found pneumonia in her lungs even though she hadn't complained of shortness of breath before falling. She just didn't feel well. A doctor came in, one we hadn't seen before and kept repeating his name to her and she wasn't getting it, even though he was on her "good ear". Finally, he took off his name tag and stuck it in front of her face and said, "here, this is my name." I couldn't believe it! I looked at him and said, "um...she's blind." Mom didn't miss a beat, "Yes, I have macular degeneration and can't read anything at all any more." This man didn't even look ashamed or apologetic! I will be saying something to someone once I know more about where.
I ended up leaving her in the ER after being there 6 hours. I had the worst headache and couldn't stand it any more. I knew she'd be OK and which floor she was going to (not the room yet, though) and came home to take some Advil. I've also let everyone know who needed to know that she's admitted and why.
But, other than your prayers and good thoughts for my mother, I have this question. Or these questions. Have you ever gone to the ER for yourself or someone else and been admitted for something entirely different than you went in for? And, have you ever had someone behave like that doctor did to anyone, let alone someone so elderly and disabled? How did you handle it?2 people like this
6 responses
@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
3 Sep 08
Oh that is awful, pneumonia is not a good thing for the elderly to get, but hopefully the hospital will be able to look after your mum and hopefully things will be ok for her, oh i am throwing a white to your dear mum....
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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
3 Sep 08
I just spoke with her this morning and she's feeling ever so much better than she was yesterday. She loves the fussing and attention she gets in the hospital. It's funny - every time we go to the ER with her, the first thing she wants is a cup of black coffee. It hasn't failed - she just CRAVES a cup of black coffee while she's in the ER. I have no idea why because hospital coffee isn't known for its quality!
May I ask what "a white" is? I appreciate it because I know it's a good thing, but it's a term or a phrase I'm not familiar with. But, thank you!
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@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
3 Sep 08
Oh I should have saif white light, I believe we all have spiritual guardians and i have read a few books on this sort of thing and they of mention putting a white light arouns someone for protection, I remember readin how one person whenever she sees an ambulance go past she always sends a white light to surround the person for protection... much the same as I guess the white light that people see when they have passed away and have been brought back...its all a spiritual thing... I am glad your mum is feeling better...
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@misstxx (37)
• United States
3 Sep 08
First of all, thank goodness you were with her in the house! Of course thoughts and prayers are being sent out you guys' way. To answer your question about the way your mother was treated by that doctor, that is inexcusable. Was it not on her chart that she is suffering from macular degeneration? If so, perhaps he needs to pay more closely to his patient...can you imagine if it had been something else and he gave medication for something that caused a bad reaction or worse? I would definitely lodge a complaint with the hospital administrator - that should not be tolerated.
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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
3 Sep 08
I'm sure her blindness was in her chart, but I think this guy was Mr I'm-In-Charge and didn't feel the need. Who knows. I've never run into one there like him before. It was a first because their staff is usually extremely patient conscious. It's their record keeping that is horrible. As many times as Mom has been there over the past year and I've been with her telling them I'm her emergency contact, they had my phone number from EIGHT YEARS AGO on file - I've given them my current number many many times, but somehow, that number found its way into the records again, just like a year ago, they claimed she didn't have any secondary insurance even though she'd had that SAME insurance since the 50s!! Someone had deleted the information from her records. I had to fight with them over it because they wouldn't believe me - until the office worker snobbily asked me, "Has she been in this hospital before?" WITCH!! I made her pull Mom's past files where they had indeed billed that same insurance they were claiming she didn't have and told them that they'd better stop deleting information from her records! Their billing office is the worst I've dealt with. But, their medical treatment is among the best.

@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
3 Sep 08
Hi Elic - I admit I only saw part of it because I had so much going on. It was kind of a busy day. But, yes - that's what I meant. It's like you think it's this, but it turns out to be that.
We had a lady in town who was taken to the hospital with what appeared to be appendicitis. She was in her late 40s or early 50s, I guess, her kids were all older than me and were graduated from HS. They xrayed her to see what the problem was and found not appendicitis, but a full-term baby trying to get out!! SHE WAS IN LABOR!!! She didn't even know she was pregnant!!! Now, THAT'S a surprise admission to the hospital!!!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Sep 08
hi yes I went to the er a year ago this past January with what my doctor thought was a bleeding ulcer but they cleaned me up from my horrible diarrhea and blood and admitted me for bleeding diverticulitis. i was in the hospital for five days and blood tests every four hours,and four units of blood. I have near had a doctor treat me like that doctor treated your mom, that was
'unforgiveable for him to be so callous.In fact I had five different doctors all treating different ailments,one for stomach, one for ulcers, one for gastro intestianal and one for diverticulitis, wow. I had every test imaginable including the dreaded barium enema, that was a real mess. ugh. glad i am over that. Now I just will not eat black berries, nuts, popcorn.
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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
3 Sep 08
OWIE, Hatley!!! And, I thought my Irritable Bowel was bad!!! OWIE!! I had to limit certain foods for quite a while and I still have trigger foods during stressful periods, but I think mine is a cakewalk compared to that!!! DANG!! And, callous is a good word - just short of arrogant, but not much short of it.
@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
12 Sep 08
Just to follow up - Mom is home and is doing well, considering. Her intake nurse for home care said she could hear better air flow in her lungs than people half her age, which is amazing because it's been almost 20 years since she was diagnosed with emphysema. She's more weak than before and says she is just sleepy sleepy, but otherwise, she looks much much better than she didn.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
3 Sep 08
I hope your mom is feeling better. How terrible. Some ER docs just have built an emotional barrier. I guess it helps them deal with the stuff they get to see. They are often quite stressed, too. Bedside manners fall to the wayside there.
I have not yet experienced going in for one thing and them keeping you for another, unless it was because nobody knew what was going on anyway. But I have my own bad ER doc experience. I had bleeding with my second when I was 19 1/2 weeks along. I have to add she always measured a week ahead and also came a week before her due date. Anyhow, it was Friday evening, my doctors office was closed, and the nurse on call send us to the ER. There I amazingly bypassed the waiting room, but they put me into some sort of storage room. They took my insurance info and such, and then left me alone. Every so often a nurse came in to grab something from the shelves. They didn't even look at me. I couldn't even find a call button. Fortunately, by now the bleeding had stopped and I had felt the baby move, but I could have very well bled out with some sudden gush of blood and me passing out. There wouldn't have been time for me to get help. I was alone, because they didn't let my husband in. We had our older daughter with us who was not quite two yet. They didn't want her to pick up some infection. That was their reasoning. After an hour without information on me, my husband went about inquiring what was going on. I guess they finally remembered where I was and a nurse came in and took the oxygen levels and asked questions. As I said, by then the bleeding stopped. Then she left and my husband came in briefly to see what was going on. He had left our oldest at the nurses station (we don't have relatives in town and he couldn't reach anybody to come get her). He had to go back to her and after another twenty minutes, the doctor finally came. He was all business. He checked, said he couldn't find any bleeding. The pad was soaked, there probably was some on the outside area there of body, but he behaved like I was out of my mind. Then he said, I should go home, I wouldn't need bedrest either. I should go about my regular activities. If I would start bleeding again, I should just let it happen. If I would lose the baby, it was meant to be. They would not do anything about it at the hospital anyway, they would only try at 20 weeks to stop the bleeding. Too bad. So, although she was measuring ahead and I was only missing a couple of days, I had to listen to THAT! My jaw dropped, I did not know what to say. I couldn't believe it. I'm sure, if my husband would have been in the room he would have offered that guy some choice words, lol.
Anyhow, that Monday I quickly got an appointment with my OB/GYN. She couldn't believe her ears. She took the name down and said she would complain to the hospital about it. They should have sent me to the maternity ward not have me be stuck in the ER. That's the hospitals policy. And I had strict instructions to directly march up to the maternity ward the next time I have problem that would require me to go to the hospital.
I'm not sure what happened to that doctor. I wish I would;)
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@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
12 Sep 08
How very lucky you were for it to NOT turn really bad!! I had three miscarriages and the last one I hemorrhaged. I was fortunate that where we lived was not as populated as where I am now because I was attended to immediately - just had to wait for my personal physician to arrive and when he die, he was in shock at how much blood I had lost. They couldn't even get a good blood pressure reading on me. I was in hysterics, so they gave me Valium and Demerol and did a D&C because I had what they called an "incomplete abortion" where my body was aborting the baby, but it didn't complete the process, so I was bleeding out. Testing showed I was no longer pregnant, so they just had to clean me out to stop the bleeding. I never wanted to go through that again and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (well, I don't think I would). When I got pregnant again with my daughter, I just cried as I realized I was pregnant even while on the pill. I was so scared. But, she was healthy, strong and meant to be! I truly believe that.
I do think I will tell my mother's doctor about the ER doctor. She's affiliated with the hospital and can probably tell the right people about him.
@razor123 (979)
• India
3 Sep 08
Hey really sorry to hear what happened to you mother. Luckily you were there at home when this thing happened. I know when old people fall down its a more serious things because as you get older your bones begin to get brittle and pain more. Also sad to hear that your mom is suffering from breathing problems and suffering from pneumonia.
Hope she gets well soon and everything is back to normal. We'll pray that she recovers swiftly and is fit and fine. Please take care of your self and specially of your mother as she needs you the most now.
@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
3 Sep 08
Thank you, Razor. She was feeling tons better this morning when I called. I still have to go up, but I wanted to call to be sure things were going smoothly. She told me how good her dinner was when she got it (lasagna), but that she hadn't had breakfast yet. Told me what she needed me to bring with me when I come, etc. Lots to do today. And thanks especially for the prayers.
@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
12 Sep 08
Mom came home Tuesday night and is better than she was - maybe a bit weaker, but sounding better. Today she's stronger than she was since coming home, it seems. She even did the dinner dishes whereas last night she went to bed shortly after dinner. No problem. Better she get the rest she needs than wear herself out.






