Palin Has Her Own "Minister" Problems - Controversial Views

I was sure someone would "doubt" the source, but then, how many times have conservatives piped up from sources more far out there than Huffington?

Yes, it does scare me that she may think she is on a mission from God. Her type of religion, to me, is no better than the one that demands that terrorists kill all of us "unbelievers." Now, I am not for a minute saying that the mainstream Muslim religion believes that; I am saying that Palins church/religion is just as radical and outrageous as those who kill in the name of Allah.

I don't know if Palin thinks of him as her "spiritual guide"; I don't know if he "brought her to Jesus"; I don't know any of that for certain. The reason that I don't know it is because I haven't had over a year to listen to her and to find out these things. Or anything, for that matter. John McCain made sure of that.

I'm just raising the question and asking for opinions. But I'll be looking for the answers as fast as I can.

Accordingly, I did some research and found out as stated below that Palin left the church in 2002. Six years ago. She now declares herself a nondenominational Christian.

Thus, attributing the pastor's beliefs to Palin would seem a reach.

As to your point about not having a year to get to know her, you're right. She has only been governing the state of Alaska, rather than campaigning for president.

Hi, 4magoo. I found it most enlightening as well. The press hasn't had the time to check her out, but hopefully they will. She is unknown to most of us, and I want to learn all I can about her. So far, I am not impressed.

It scares me, too, mcat19! I wish we had had the chance to know about her a year ago. But she's been rushed in and passed off as the best thing since sliced bread. I know what you mean about people who believe their views are the only acceptable ones. In fact, it sounds quite a lot like any other religious fanatic, Muslim ones included.

Irish, I respect your opinions. I must say, however, that I have had to hear all sorts of National Enquirer propaganda about Obama for over a year now. Since this is information that is new, I don't see anything wrong with discussing it. I simply asked for opinions. I just wondered if this information was news to everyone else and if it was as worrisome to others as it is to me. By the way, I could not have supported Obama before he left his "church," either.

I am not only not impressed by any "end time" preacher, I despise them all. I have my reasons.

I agree, silly propaganda is still silly propaganda, no matter which political figure they are now choosing to target. I am tired of it all. No one deserves this stupid stuff they go after instead of going after the issues we truly need to know about.

It's a story, shoffman. It's new information about someone most of us know nothing about. That makes it a story.

Seems she left the church because there wasn't enough activities for her children.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/tundra-talk/1-talk-of-the-tundra/85-church-service.html

ZephyrSun,

The key words here are "according to church officils and friends" Not Palin's words and being the proverbial preacher's kid I have to say that oft times the reason people leave churches are not the ones that become public. Many people leave churches because they disagree with the pastor but to not seem judgemental about the pastor(which is God's job)they make other excuses!

Yes Zephyr, I read up on this and I think that her reason for leaving the church was not memtioned in that article, but was more of an unsaid statement.

She had voiced concerns about the direction of the church and mentioned that it wasn't fufilling the needs of her family and her personally.

If you take that to mean something different, then fine.

I'm thinking more along the lines that rodney mentioned.

When I saw where this information came from I put on my list check this out,the source is a far left wing popular liberal connection and I can not depend on information coming out of that liberal site.
The differences I would note first is Sarah Palin's former church is not hooked up with black liberation theology,for the them that don't know what black liberation theology is,it is a belief system that goes back a very long ways,Malcolm X and black author's of years gone by spread this belief system far and wide,it teaches the white race stole everything from the black race,enslaving them and forceing the black to live in a white man's world and under the white man's rule.
It teachs the black race they have to stand up to the white race and take back what belongs to them in the first place.
They belive Jesus Christ is of the black race and the white man has forced the black man to honor their white Jesus.
The whole idea behind black liberation theology is to take back from the white man any way that you can starting with the rich white man and these black people that follow black liberation theology belive take it by any means including power and resorting to violents.
To the wise don't be fooled when Barack obama said numbers of time speaking about his white grand mother the women who sacrificed for his education just a typical white women fearful of black men,"typical white women lays the real Barack Obama"this is his mind set of Barack Obama typical white women after all it was the white race that stole everything from the black man, this is black liberation theology typical white people,people questioned this statement typical white women since then Obama has took it down a notch he covered his black liberation theology belief's.
Mechelle Obama statements the United States is a mean and hateful country,she has never been proud of her country in all of her adult life,this is the black liberation theology mind set,you really can believe she meant every word she said,when people questioned her statement the Obama's made their excuses to cover their tracks as to their core believes the rich white people took from the black race.
Note Barack Obama's own words and his plan he is going to tax the white rich people up to 50% they presently pay up to 39% in tax's,his mind set is found in his church in which he has been a member over twenty years and he is an active and supporting member of the Trinity church lead by black liberation theology preacher Jeremiah Wright.
The Trinity Church on the east side of Chicago is a black liberation theology church,Jeremiah Wright has been the lead pastor thirty years,he retired two months ago moving him and his wife into their brand new ten million dollar house.
Oprah Winfrey left after attending Jeremiah Wright's church for two years she knows who these people at Obama's church and the meaning behind the fiery bitter and hateful sermons against the United states and bitterness against the white race,she could not stay she had to protect her repudiation,dose she believe it yes she certainly dose believe it she is 110% for her people the black race she still she had to protect her own reputation she had to stop attending the Trinity church,she has been asked why she made this choose she has never answer the question and for very good reason.
The different between Barack and Mechelle Obama's church is Sarah Palin's church dose not preach against the United States of American and the rich white people.
Another difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama,governor Palin is not hooked with people like Jeremiah Wright,William Ayers,Bernadette Dohrn,Tony,Rezko,Louis Farrakhan these people listed as Barack Obama's close friends are all anti-Americans some have set off bombs in the U.S. back in the 1970's and say today they wish they had done more,this is William Ayers and Bernadette Dorn this is the short list of Barack Obama's friends of more then twenty years.
Governor Palin friends of list lack angry black preachers and anti-Americans so there is a mountain of different if some one really wants to pit Sarah Palin's church against Barack Obama's church it is just not a very good idea.
Click the link below to get a good idea as to what Governor Sarah Palin is really up against in this historically race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8 (CLICK HERE)

Sorry about the slow response. I was busy and forgot to come back and check on you.

I have left a church over not agreeing with the "teachings" and I haven't been back since I left. If she was so opposed to the "way the church was going" then why if I might ask would she continue to attend for other reasons?

kenny-

It's Michelle Obama and it is does not dose.

Maybe because she had friends in the church that she was close to.
Its just a guess and I'll agree with you, I have left a church too for the reasons you mentioned. I did still attend several times after withdrawing as a member to celebrate special events with friends that remained members. I can't speak for Palin, I'm sure she has her reasons. One would be that she moved her family to a non-denominational church, but still worships at a related Assembly of God Church.
She does still attend events at the church in question, but making a connection of this sort is grasping, compared to the facts surrounding Obamas affilliation with the Reverend Wright. You know it and so do I.

I wonder why Obama attended the Church of Wright, Trinity United, for so long after he knew of the comments the Wright was making and knowing of the Mission Statement of the church?

Even Oprah quit going regularly after a few years. It took twenty years and an outcry from America to get Obama to quit. Even then he wished to remain friends with Wright. It was until a second outcry that he was forced to publicly kick him to the curb.

In my last sentance "was" should read "wasn't".

"I wonder why Obama attended the Church of Wright, Trinity United, for so long after he knew of the comments the Wright was making and knowing of the Mission Statement of the church?"

I don't know, I guess it would depend on how long they have been friends. I always felt guilted into going to the Baptist church when I would visit my grandparents even though I didn't agree with their views. My uncle and I are extremely close and even though he lives overseas he flew home and my husband and I were married by him in the Catholic church and we aren't Catholic lol. I only did those things out of guilt or devotion, yeah devotion sounds so much better doesn't it? lol

I also wanted to add that I never supported Obama until he left that church. I have no idea what the name of it is. I thought I was going to have to vote for McCain or not vote if Hillary didn't make it lol

The name of the church is Trinity United Church of Christ.

To be honest with you, I am not too thrilled by any of the choices we have either.

I guess I decided on McCain when Obama chose not to put her on the ticket. I mean she got half of the democratic vote, why wouldn't he want that momentum going for him. Hillary is THE strongest woman in politics and would have brought more than Biden to their camp. I just felt she was treated badly throughout the primaries. Howard Dean should have stepped in at some point early on and smoothed things over. The Dems should have realized that the two of them bashing eachother would end up as Republican propaganda come fall.
I see it as a failure of the party to control the candidates and a failure on Obamas part not to put Hillary on the ticket.
I'm not voting for McCain because I love him and support everything he says and does... I'm voting for the lesser of two evils.

That seems to be a pattern for many in America over the past two decades.
I don't see it changing anytime too soon.
Maybe if McCain is elected we will see the shake up in Washington that the two of them promised.
I do think that of the two candidates running, McCain is the one actually capable of making the changes that have been promised.

I guess a lot in life is the perspective we see things from.

Very nice to chat with you Zephyr.

I would have voted for McCain in 2000 but not today, he has done a complete 360 and he no longer shares any of my political views. It's a shame too because I really liked, and now I feel like he has sold out after all the lies that Bush and Rove whispered about him in 2000, and in the begining of all this nonsense Bush and McCain were tied at the hips. I was going to say twins but I took heat for that once lol

I've already commented on the "source" of this story. Are you just assuming that she left the church in 2002 because she disagreed with its direction? I did not see any sort of statement to that effect.

I agree that Obama should have left Trinity United long before he did. If he were still sticking with it, I doubt that I could vote for him. Which I am going to do.

This preacher of Palin's doesn't have to say "God d*mn America;" evidently he damns everyone in it who doesn't agree with their church. Everyone who doesn't vote the "Christian" way. I imagine that would be true for this church worldwide.

Come on, how great did you think Hillary was before she lost to Obama? I am one of Hillary's supporters. I was disappointed that she lost; I was not disappointed that she is not to be VP, though. I never thought it would happen. There is a long list of impressive women, democrat and republican, that McCain could have chosen. Instead, he chooses Palin, someone hardly anyone knows anything about. Don't expect people to take her at face value. Especially democratic women. McCain may think that any female will do, but as a group, democratic women certainly don't. There are questions to be asked about Palin and no matter how scared some republicans may be of actually answering questions, they will be asked.

Sorry, the previous post was to DrMario! Oops.

I didn't really like Hillary, but that does not mean I didn't think she was a great woman. She will go down as one of the greatest women in history.

I'm glad now after hearing Palin speak in St. Paul tonight that McCain did choose to go outside of the regular Washington circle and was a brave, or stupid, man and selected as his running mate a woman that will bring a new face to politics.
You'll have to admit she performed very well considering the expectations and proved to be not only smart and well- spoken, but feisty too.

I am more convinced than ever that the McCain ticket is the change we need in Washington.

As for her leaving that church...
I've read somewhere else that she left the church because she didn't care for the direction the church was going and chose a non'denominational church instead. I'll try to find where I read it, but like me considering Huffington a biased report, I'm sure you'll find anything I quote biased as well. Regardless, I will search for it and provide the link here.

I know we will prolly disagree on this and thats ok. From where I stand its a clear choice now. The direction of America MUST change, we just think that change will come from different places. I'll go with the proven record of a man thats given an entire lifetime of service over a man that hasn't even authored a single law, or run a business or a city, or a state. Yes, hes written two books and given a speech or two, but lets be realistic and use some common sense.

I think that McCain-Palin is better for America than Obama-Biden.

Lets just see what America says in the coming weeks.

Isn't it great to live in a place where we can debate these things and then vote freely and without fear of our government harming or intimidating us into voting for the candidate they say we should vote for?

God bless America and lets hope that we can come together, no matter who comes out ahead in November. Thats whats MOST important.

Its nice to meet you Cheryl.

You don't have to see anything wrong with her views; I asked for opinions, not agreement.

You said that "most of the Alaskans are Roman Catholic;" is that something you know or something you just think? lol Just curious, really, because from what I know, Alaska has some of every religion just like every where else.

Thanks for your comments.

Clearly your clueless about Alaska in general, good for Governor Sarah Palin the bars are long over due for a time cut off,if you had never lived or been in the state of Alaska then you don't know six months out of the year it is day light.
The bars are long over due to have a cut off hour as they have never had one, because of drunk drinking which causes DUI's and innocent family's get killed by people driving while drinking,Sarah Palin is what decent media is reporting she is a reformer and she is a maverick and she has dam sure walked away with the spot lights all focused on her and this is a very good thing.

Oh reread my post you obviously read it incorrectly!!! SHE FIRED ONE FOR WANTING TO CLOSE THE BARS EARLY THE POLICE OFFICER WANTED THE BARS CLOSED EARLY NOT PALIN, THEN SHE FIRED THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO ENOUGH TO CONTROL ALCOHOL!!! CAN YOU SEE IT NOW?????

And I'll let you in on a secret, I know how to read and believe me the whole world knows it's dark there 6 months out of the year.

I"ve never heard of this Zephyr. Could you please provide a source. I'm not accusing you of lying, I simply want to read the actual accounts of this so I can hear what really happened.

Ok Taskr let me find it. You better not do me like rodney though lol

Oh taskr that was easy, seems the MSM already is all over it. When I found it days ago I had to dig through a lot of stuff to find it. Anyway, I hope ABC News is not bias for you.

http://abcnews.go.com/story?id=5713866

I think it will be interesting, too. Yes, people complain about the validity of the Huffington Post and then quote something from some web site only a fanatic would visit. lol

I'll be very interested in what becomes of the two fired officers, too. I hope they don't put off the investigation much longer. Oh, and thanks for the link!

No problem

Will you wait for me at the gates?? LOL

http://www.usatoday.com/n...

Isn't it scary? I can't imagine being told that I would go to he11 for not voting for someone, or voting for the "wrong" person. lol I would never believe that, anyway, though.

I stopped going to church when I was about 16. I went back once, to my Uncle's funeral. That was March of 1973. I do not like organized religion and frankly, I never have. I have my own personal faith, too and since it is getting closer to the election, I find myself praying more and more! No kidding! I was forced to go to a Pentecostal church for years. I also went to Catholic school. I used to beg to go to church with my friends who were Baptist and Methodist and Presbyterian, just so I wouldn't have to go to church with my Aunt. When I was 16, several events happened that made me just never go back.

Anyway, as much as some people think this is not news, it is. I don't know what they are crying about - it's no different that what was done with Obama's church.

So, Annie, I'll hold the gates for you and Zephyr! Come on down!

Since I happen to like it HOT it might not be so bad after all - especially since I'll have my two good friends there with me!
Annie

Roll your eyes, xfahctor! This is just as valid as the beating Obama got for his church - which, by the way, I gave him myself.

Sure Rev. Wright's sermons were vile and hateful. I don't see how you think these are not just as vile and hateful. The things that Pat Robertson and yes, Billy Graham and all the others have said are not harmless. How do you know that Palin's minister is not racist, too? You can put what everyone knows about her in a teaspoon! Please do tell me where you found out that Palin left the church because "she saw this guy was a nut?" I certainly didn't find any evidence of that. If you have it, I'd love the link, please.

I'm not grasping at anything. I'm doing my best to find out who she really is and not just swallow the fluff offered up by McCain's people.

So, if it was fair to Obama to scrutinize his church, then it's fair to Palin. Period.

Do I have an article to point you to? not really, she left before she was even mayor or even city council, there would have been no real controversy to her being a member at the time she left, she would not have even been on the media radar and therefore there would be no articles on her being a member or the controversy of it. It was mentioned in several places about her past that she had left however in recent articles on the new-old controversy.
the point was, Obama may have finally left his church and for that I applaud him, but it does make one wonder, why he did, as he was in fact running for president when he did it. again, speculation? perhaps, but then so is the controversy surrounding Palin. the bottom line is she left long ago, before she was even mayor. Obama did not resign until nation wide outcries were raised.

I was a little confused by your post X, but she didn't leave that church until 2002 and I thought her major position was before that.