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myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore1 year ago

In a bid to counter contraband cigarettes, the Singapore government is going to impose a regulation that all licensed cigarettes in Singapore to bear the "SPDC" mark.
SPDC meaning Singapore Duty Paid Cigarettes.

I first heard of this news over the radio on my commute home. Initially I thought it was a joke. That is till I saw the news later in the evening.

What caught my attention is this "Anyone found buying, selling or smoking cigarettes without the "SDPC" marking could be jailed or fined." blink

Wow... So come January first, there is going to be officers walking around checking on the butt that is in your mouth to see if it bears the SDPC marking.
If not, they are going to haul your sorry butt to the court to charge you for buying and smoking contraband cigarettes.

"According to the Tobacco Association (Singapore), contraband cigarettes constitute 18 per cent of market share in Singapore.

It expects the new regulation to increase demand for duty—paid cigarettes, which would help offset the cost of marking every cigarette."


Wanna bet to see if they do not increase the price of cigarettes?
I am sure they will find some excuse later to justify for the price increase.

Some of the articles can be found here:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20080910/tap-973-every-cigarette-bear-sdpc-markin-231650b.html
http://938live.sg/portal/site/938Live/menuitem.43735da1634c4377d21b2910618000a0/?vgnextoid=71d52674c9a4c110VgnVCM1000001f0aa8c0RCRD&mcParam=18d2638896593110VgnVCM100000e101000aRCRD
http://www.customs.gov.sg/topNav/new/SDPC+Cigarette+Marking+Regulation.htm


In fact, after the announcement of this new regulation, the radio stations are abuzzed with lots of people talking about it.
I wonder how many people is going to get fined for this come January. I also wonder how much of my tax payer money is going into deploying enforcement officers to check on smokers who are smoking non SDPC marked cigarettes.
Imagine the raids they would have to make on a daily basis on all the night joints!

Sigh...





Come January 2009, all cigarettes MUST bear the SD
 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. kun2349 (7264)   ranked 5 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

It's just plain crazy.. Looks like singapore is really kiasu and really wanna suck all the smokers dry.. lol

They are going a little too far in stopping ple from buying contraband cigrattes, and they din think about those foreigners or even those foreign construction workers, with the price of singapore cigarette on the rise, and with their pay, how can they afford.. Then now with this stupid ruling, does that mean that if i were to buy my cigarettes from overseas, and i did declare it to the customs, paid the tax, i will have to carry the receipt with me to wherever i go?? and once the officers check me, do i have the right to THROW THE RECEIPT on their face and tell them i GOT PAY TAX?? lol

Luckily, i have quitted smoking but i also know that cigarattes is gonna icnrese price again, and this time, it's gonna be a dollar or more.. How i pity all those smokers..


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordwarwizard (10401)   ranked 6 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Hello kun, it is good to know that you have quit smoking. There are quicker ways of committing suicide. blink rasp


myLot reputation of 97/100. kun2349 (7264)   ranked 5 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

haha.. Yeah, but all along i'm a healthy smoker lei.. lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

I was thinking the same thing as well.
I find the requirement for the receipt to be produced for cigarettes purchased overseas a little ridiculous.
I mean, the smokers are expected to be carrying the receipts everywhere they go when they smoke the unmarked cigarettes? It would be interesting to see all the different arguments that would come up when people are getting arrested. lol

Kun, there is such a thing as a 'Healthy" smoker? blink



myLot reputation of 97/100. kun2349 (7264)   ranked 5 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

yeah, and like what lordwarwizard says, if there are ple whom buy alot of cigarettes to stock up at home b4 the increase of price, will sure kena caught, because the government will never believe that all smokers are not hardcore smokers, and when the officers catch them, the offenders are always wrong no matter how right and valid their reasons are.. lol

Yeah, i'm one of them.. Because my fitness far surpasses most non smokers, and as a smoker in the past, i'm able to run and climb and jump, easily without any problems, as compared to some non smokers, i guess alot of them are not even half of my fitness.. lol=D And being smoker, i have not taken any mc for almost 5 yrs too.. SO am i consider as a healthy smoker?? haha

But now i have quitted smoking, still i'm healthy.. haha

 
2. myLot reputation of 95/100. lordwarwizard (10401)   ranked 6 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

Hello ahgong,

Indeed I caught the news on Straits Times today too.

What a new way to crack down on tax evaders. $7 per pack is sure delicious money for the government.

As for how those people are found out, I guess the police will have to go LOOKING with their eyes open. It is hardly easy and it would make the police so auntie-voyeur-like... ah boy, come over, your cigarette got mark or not? Don't hold so close to the mark region, hold at tip, I want to see the mark... hang on... your ID please? You underage? Shall I fine you for smoking underage or smoking the wrong kind of cigarette? You want to smoke, must remember to pay government first, ok? blink

How are they going to decide if non-SDPC marked cigarettes are not simply "old stock"? Someone can always claim to have bought the sticks long ago so naturally they won't be any marks.

I doubt there will be a hilarious-if-it-happens cigarette recall exercise for them to stamp the marks right? rolleyes


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Precisely. I mean, are we churning out too many policemen and policewomen that they are all having nothing better to do than to go around and check on people's cigarettes?

I am wondering, which wise butt scholar came up with this idea. And which other wise butt scholar approved this idea to implement it.
I wonder what kind of hide-and-seek is going to happen between the ah peks and the authorities when the new rule is implemented.


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordwarwizard (10401)   ranked 6 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Beats me really. My brain is where it is supposed to be - up that and not down there so I am not a wise butt. blink

 
3. myLot reputation of 99/100. applefreak (2166)   ranked 13 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

well being a smoker myself i can't say cigarettes are cheap here. although it is not THE most expensive, it's really close. this regulation is implemented to stop people from buying contraband cigarettes. this is just another measure to account for the failure of the customs department to stop the import of contrabands. it's been rumoured for a really long time, now it's finally here. as for the increase in price, they do it every year anyway. they don't need this for an excuse, they use the same reason every year. the increase in cigarette prices is to prevent people from picking up the habit/ to help people quit smoking. guess it's just a matter of time before it reaches S$20 a packet. cry


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

If the failures are on the customs department, then they should be bringing the customs department up to task. Rather than try to implement such a ruling. No?
Kinda like punishing the general public for the failure of one department. No?

I am not a smoker myself. But I do buy them for my father from time to time. And it is getting more and more painful on the pocket each time I do.

I am sure with this new ruling in place, a lot of night spots are going to be raided on a regular basis to collect fines.


myLot reputation of 99/100. applefreak (2166)   ranked 13 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

yes the customs department did step up their enforcement actions. problem is, there are simply too many. i doubt our prisons are enough to house them even if all of them are caught. it's just like wild life protection, if the buying stops, the killing (importing) can too. that's why they are now targeting the end users instead. the rise in cigarette prices has never been attributed to enforcement. it's the government's way of 'helping' smokers to stop. being a smoker, i've been watching their rationale all these years. thumbdown

 
4. myLot reputation of 97/100. poohgal (2953)   ranked 2 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

Good! Hopefully that will deter some people from smoking. happy

But if that doesn't deter people from smoking, then the government will gain even more money from the duty paid on cigarettes.

I seriously wonder what the real motivation is. I believe the monetary gain seems more likely the reason. If the government is serious enough about discouraging smoking, they can jolly well ban it. They have banned chewing gums before.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Well, with this new implementation, instead of discouraging the smokers from smoking, it will only encourage them to look for alternatives.

What you will most likely to see is, more smokers will turn to rolling out their own ciggies with tobacco and paper.
IMHO, those smoking the rolled tobacco are the stinkiest!
As it is, the cigarettes are already not pleasant to smell when the smokers are smoking it. Those cheap tobacco which can be used to roll home-made cigarettes are going to be worse!

If a person is determined to smoke, no amount of enforcement is going to help in preventing them from doing it. No?


myLot reputation of 97/100. poohgal (2953)   ranked 2 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Yea. It seems like many smokers lack motivation to quit. glare

Majority tend to be inconsiderate too. I've seen many smoking in the presence of kids. thumbdown

 
5. myLot reputation of 93/100. eeyore39 (3181)   ranked 23 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

Well being a non smoker I could really care less. However I do see the potential for some serious problems. Who do you work for?? The cigarette police he said. I am curious what happens to those that roll their own or is that not allowed in your country???


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

That is precisely what I am thinking as well. What is to prevent people from buying the boxed cigarettes to use those rolled ones instead?
How are they going to trace those?

I find this new exercise a little, well, what is a better word here... ridiculous!
But it is also making me interested to find out, what innovative ideas are the smugglers going to come up with when the new regulations are in place.


myLot reputation of 93/100. eeyore39 (3181)   ranked 23 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

The smugglers probably have already purchased their own seal machine from a corrupt official. Not that you have any over there right?? Probably got it through the states.

 
6. myLot reputation of 95/100. angelia286 (765)   ranked 10 out of 84 in singapore   1 year ago

My gosh! I don't watch the news and certainly was unaware of this piece of news! Now that's a shocking news to me. Sigh~ Cigarettes are already expensive enough and now the government wants to impose this! BAd news sad I thought it was all a joke until I went into the links that were provided by you, and I realised that one of these links points to the customs website. So, it's all very true!

I'm a smoker myself and I do buy Malaysia cigarettes because of the fact that I go into Malaysia often. So does this serve to mean that as long as you do not buy those with the stamp, you will have to pay the tax at the customs and show the receipt everytime the officers come to check on the butt that you are smoking? This is all but ridiculous! Don't they have enough just raising the tax to be on every single stick of cigarette?

What the government is doing is not discouraging the smokers at all as if someone who wants to smoke will still smoke regardless of what the government imposed on cigarettes. It's all about the money that the government wants to gain. thumbdownAfterall, they can just ban cigarettes in Singapore if they really do want to stop people from smoking! Besides that, the government had just mentioned in the customs webpage that contraband cigarettes holds a 18% market share in Singapore. They want to hold solely to 100% of the market share, and now they implement this ruling.

And coming to think about it, the cost price of 1 pack of cigarette is around $1 per pack, which means to say that the government is earning roughly around $10 plus per packet of cigarette sold. Not such a bad deal if you ask me. glare

I guess it's more trips to Malaysia for me, not that I am complaining though. Lol, I won't bring the cigarettes back into Singapore, but whatever free time I have on hand would be spent in Malaysia when this ruling comes into effect. No more eating dinner in Singapore! Off work, and off I zoom to Malaysia to rest, relax, makan and smoke before I come back into Singapore again! Any other smokers stand with me on this? Let's stand united and not let the government profit on this!


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3789)   ranked 1 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Oh c'mon! Like that is going to make a difference!

What I find ridiculous with this rule is that they are going to be scrutinizing every stick of cigarette that you smoke.
And if you were to say buy a pack in Malaysia and bring the few unsmoked sticks back, you need to have a receipt to proof that you purchased. Wear it like a badge, you know.

I mean, the authorities have nothing better to do?
I am just going to see what kind of antics the people are going to get up to once the new rule is applied come January.


myLot reputation of 95/100. angelia286 (765)   ranked 10 out of 84 in singapore  1 year ago

Lol, imagine this la.. if no Singaporeans are purchasing cigarettes here in Singapore any longer, instead every single smoker is spending their time in Malaysia rather than Singapore, contributing to Malaysia's economy, do you think then the Singapore government will be more relaxed?

They just want money, and if nobody is spending money on cigarettes here, then they will have no tax revenue. That's the thing. Anyway, it was just a little thought of mine, and like that's going to happen! Haha

I would sure like to see what would happen when the new rule come into enforcement. How many of the smokers will actually hold on to the receipts and bring them out whereever they go. And how will the officers differentiate from the genuine cases fro the fake ones? The hoo ha and the drama that follows with this implementation will be so so interesting! thumbup

 
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