Mickey Mouse Must Die Says, Saudi Cleric

saikyo,

Why should we check this link when it has nothing to do with what we are discussing here?

Please stick to the point and not hijack this discussion to make your religious statements and/or rebuffs. You can always start a discussion on your own, yes?

No thanks to Arabian Nights.

ROFL!!!!! I totally agree with you. It is the parents decision to let the child watch whet he/she watches, and how much of it. I have 3 kids all under age 5 so I gotta be really careful. The 19 month old likes to get the remote and change channels, so I put in parental controls so she dosen't see something that she's not supposed to. But for cryin out loud! Mickey Mouse!!??? Whatever that guy was smokin', he totally fried his brain.

Sorry for commenting on your response, but I don’t think it’s as innocent and it sounds. Such propaganda slowly but surely is widening the gap between the concept of ‘us’ and ‘them’. Cartoon characters the world over are viewed as just that…innocent laughter material for kids. Until and unless it’s specifically promoting some agenda, they should be kept out of the periphery of religion. And like it or not, Disney characters are typically representative of the USA, so banning them is another way of brining up generations of Muslim children on the notion of the West vs Islam.
Now that (I feel) more and more mainstream Muslims are getting tired of the terrorist thing and trying to assimilate with multiracial societies, these hardcore clerics are searching out newer and more innovative ways of sustaining their campaign of hatred and Pan-Islamization.

q)where is the proof in these terms that Jesus was God

a)Mark 1:10. As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove.
11. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."

and as for the trinity
for me it is easy to understand
to my parents _------- I am child
to my children --------I am mother
to my husband ---------I am wife

these are 3 personalities or aspects of me yet they are all me
so it is with God
the holy spirit--------is comforter
the Father-------------is LOrd and power
the son ----------------is saviour
3 aspwects of but one God!

and what in the h*** HAS THIS TO DO WITH MICKEY MOUSE????

saikyo,

Keep to the discussion, this thread is not about Christian and Muslims. So be a grown up here, instead of asking people to grow up. Have a life.

Amen to that!

here's a link to an article and picture about it

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7358443&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Wait, what do you mean if you're a christian your religion does it as well? I would really like to know what you meant by that statement.

i explained in in there. we don't do the same thing, but christians would make certain statements. for instance against homosexuality. if you're talking towards symbolism towards animals, the snake is a sign of evil. if you're talking about him making statements that are outrageous well, sheesh, there are so many examples of christian/caothlics who do the same exact thing.

emarie,

Please read the post and comment accordingly to the cleric's comments. That's all? I DO SEE THE NEED TO BRING UP OTHER ISSUES OF CHRISTIANITY here. If you have a point then may I SUGGEST that you start another thread of discussion.

FYI this cleric wasn't ranting and I hope you really get to read about it. Google the title and read for yourself. Also, being neutral is staying on the fence and not pointing fingers and/or taking sides in my simple plain English term. But, I think you are contrary to what you say you are. BTW clerics as far as I know from any faith, religion and/or denominations DO NOT RANT. Rather they are teaching as they deliver their message. So, could you see the point here now? This is not your war so don't bring up other issues other than what this discussion is discussing.

3 Cheers to Porky, Hip Hip Hooray!!

i was making a point to where people shouldn't care what others think, using an example of a religion well known especially in the US where it can be considered an 'unofficial' religion. Your post was about his comment on Mickey Mouse and other animated mouse characters being seen as evil. I'm saying they're not the only religion who will make a comment like that. simple as that. i use christianity as an example because i know it. a lot of people say Barney must die and is the purple devil yet no one really cares about what they say. if it were in the us i would say its freedom of speech. if their religion says that mice are considered a sign of evil then thats what they believe. characters like Mickey Mouse and Jerry are US created were mice are more friendly and kept as pets. i used the bible term into categorizing animals as an 'evil' being as it being the snake. in most cartoons, the snake character is categorized and being 'sly' and 'evil' like stated in the story with adam and eve. its something most people know even if they aren't religious which that point is played upon is various cartoons. one which comes to mind if Disney's The Jungle Book where the snake was sneeky and pretty much one of the bad guys. i thought my examples and points went with the topic. everyone does have their own opinion.

emarie,

I think it would really and greatly help you if you could just read further on one of my replies on page 2. I am not going to repeat myself here, neither am I BELITTLING anyone or anybody's faith here lest you be mistaken.

I just felt that people with authority and leadership placed on them should act and speak sensibly and responsibly. Choice of words is the main issue at the end of the day. Why? Because there is this funny and protracted truth of the word interpretation. Even, here in this small discussion, I am sure that you would have seen the various interpretation and views contributed. I am not so much worried about the trivial views of each individual here but I cannot feel the same for the extremist and non conformists. So let's hope that nothing unbecoming would come out of this insensible speech of slur.

I as a Christian take my faith very seriously also. So you claim to be a what exactly?? I don't just come in here attacking muslims saying all you do is stick your butts up in the air and chant, or cover your women because, I don't even know why! Are you ashamed of your women or something? I have 3 little girls, are you saying that as a mother I dress my girls as "w*h*o*r*es"? You might not know this, but hell has no fury like a womans scorn, and you got it buddy.

America is different from your country because America is not a theocracy. Not all Americans follow the same religion. We have Christians, Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Budhists... it is even the right of every American to follow no religion at all if they so choose.

Therefore, American society is not guided by any particular religion. Yes, a large number of Americans are Christians, but that is not what we base our society around. America is so great because of our freedoms. Freedom of religion is one of our proudest values.

This concept is something you obviously do not understand.

Legaly it should not happen. But freedom is a double edged sword. Just like in America you are free to believe however you wish, other people are allowed to say they are against it.

But Muslims are not "opressed" in AMerica as harshly as non-muslims are opressed in Muslim countries. We do not keep our Muslim population in prison. We do not kill them. We do not deny them any human rights. Any Muslim is allowed to practice their religion, work any job they are qulifies for, go to school, raise a family and follow the American dream - just like any other American.

There are some harsh feeling against Muslims right now because of the September 11th attacks... I will admit that. But Muslim Americans are NOT "oppressed". We are working through some cultural issues but the difference is we dont kill them, or shun them. They are allowed the same human rights as anyone else.