American Hunters & Shooters Association in support of Obama

Hi Redyellowblackdog,
Obama has as much right to change his mind or "flip flop" just like any other politian! Who do you know that hasn't done this or worse?
The people who have made up their minds to vote for Obama, me being #1, have done exactly that...made up their minds...they, like me, do not want more of the same cow piles!!
Respectfully,
~G~

Oops, it's polititian not politian!! Sorry:-(
~G~

I looked at their website, red, and they seem seriously ticked off at the NRA for backing members of Congress who do not support the interests of hunters and sportsmen. If AHSA is a shill organization who do they really support? I had never heard of them before hearing the ad but I did check out the website before posting it. They've been around since 2006 so what do you believe their real purpose is?

Certainly, 0bama has every right to change his mind. I simply would like an explanation from him that he has changed his mind. Read between the lines of what he is saying about gun rights. I strongly get the impression he is implying he has always been for gun rights. The thing of it is, in 0bama's mind, voting to ban assault weapons, urging the banning of handguns, and outlawing ammo that can penetrate a bullet proof vest are not anti-gun but reasonable gun safety measures. On the surface this seems to make sense, only that assault weapons are low powered weapons compared to hunting firearms, all rifle ammo will penetrate bullet proof vests, and handguns are invaluable tools for protecting one's home.

If 0bama has changed his mind about gun rights, hooray! Now, let him explain himself.

AHSA is alledged by the NRA to exist to create division in the gun community and to urge people to vote for politicians who back sensible gun control legislation.

Time will tell if this is the case. I do know many have expressed doubts about the AHSA even though they have a great sounding name.

Let's wait and judge them by their actions. So far, saying there would be no difference as to gun grabbing between 0bama vs McCain does make AHSA look mighty suspicious. I have no doubt 0bama would like to see Americans unable to buy rifle ammo (it can penetrate a bullet proof vest), own a handgun, or own an assault rifle. Of all firearms, handguns are the least powerful. Assault weapons look mean but are low powered to reduce recoil and allow more rapid firing. Rifle ammo is essential for most hunting. 0bama speaks out of both sides of his mouth concering firearms rights. I just don't believe him until he explains himself in detail. For now, I don't trust the AHSA, either, for backing him.

You have made my point only better. Thanks for the helping hand.

Good hearted decent people just have a hard time realizing or believing there are groups like AHSA in existence trying so hard and so well to misrepresent themselves.

The better we can explain it, the more likely we can reach people.

"Isn't it funny that someone being against assualt rifles is against the Second Amendment?"

I strongly urge you to read what the founders themselves had to say about the Second Admendment. Alexander Hamiliton had interesting things to say about this in the Federalist Papers. The Second Admendment is not about insuring our right to hunt. It is about always being able to resist tryanny. The second admendment is much more about protecting one's right to an assault rifle than it is to own a .30-30 deer rifle or a shotgun.

Now, as to assault rifles. I use to be paid by the government to be expert in their use, deployment, and in the training of others to use them. I know what an assault rifle is and what it is for. Banning them serves no useful purpose except to set a useful precedent in the minds of those unknowledgable concerning assault rifles that it is OK to ban guns of certain types. Assault rifles are low powered weapons compared to the rifles used to hunt big game. If the gun grabbers can ban the assault rifles, they can ban anything.

You should tell that to all the families of officers killed by them. Well and actually you could tell that to all of the families that have had loved ones killed by them.

In actual fact the few criminals who use asault rifles are mostly drug gangs. Outlawing assault rifles will have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on police officer deaths. Drug gangs will be able to obtain any weapons they want. They have the money.

The banning of assault rifles will create a new market for another high priced illicit item besides drugs. I'm sure the criminals who mostly use assault rifles would love for them to be banned just so they could also traffic in them for huge profits and not worry so much about most ordinary citizens having any.