Breaking News! Isabelmarco won't pay free mamber's anymore  | | Hi all,
Today i open IM site forums, and get this breaking news that they won't pay for free members anymore unless they are upgrading their membership to premium, this link can lead you to the site http://kevain.com/isabelm... what your opinions about this? i'm sure there will be a lot of free members which doesn't have enough money for upgrading does not accept this rules, share with others ...
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| | | | | | 41. nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | I will tell you why they had to do this. There were many cheaters on the site and many who were just clicking and getting referrals without ever investing a dime. They were not buying refs, buying or converting to ads, upgrading, etc.
If there is no income, there is no money to give the members. They are not the first site to do this, either. I joined them many months ago and have been paid 7 times. For a measly $9, I was able to upgrade. I had some referrals I had brought in and starting earning more. At my 3rd payout, I had enough to upgrade for a year.
After that, each payout I have bought more refs and I am making a few hundred per month from them, paid on time and I am very happy.
Since they changed the rule, so many more people signed up as premium members because they know that it's an honest site and are already seeing the difference it makes.
No PTC will survive unless the members pay back. Neobux, another good site, has the highest cost of upgrading and does not sell but rent refs on a monthly basis.
Other sites, like Investbux, only pay premium members. They have lost the cheaters and lazy clickers who only want to earn off of the rest of us investing and advertising. I have quadrupled my investment into Isabelmarco.
When I owned my own business, a dance school, I had parents of students who whined about this, complained about that, wanted everything for free and did not want to follow rules.
Well, I make my rules stricter, raised my prices and they left. In place of them came in dedicated parents who appreciated a quality dance school. So, in reverse of what others said would be my doom, my business thrived, until I retired.
Summarizing it all, PTCs are businesses. If the owners make no money, why would they do it in the first place? If they make money, we make money. If someone cannot afford $9, how did they afford the computer they use (unless they are using someone else's)? Even so, most people can come up with that much and if they do, I assure you, you will earn faster.
Once you earn enough, you can choose to upgrade monthly or save money and do the yearly upgrade.
I volunteered to be a moderator on their forum because they are truly honest and hard-working people. They intend to be the one site that can always pay and be trusted and want to do this for a long time. They continue to expand their business by adding other sites and are smart cookies, too.
They have seen friends, who owned a PTC, fail, because they did not want to take the same steps that they are taking. I think it's good business sense. If you do not like the changes, the good thing is that you can convert your earnings to ads to promote other sites that you belong to. I do that, in addition to buying refs on IM and I am still making money. It's my vacation/emergency money and is a huge help.
Respectfully - nanajanet
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SaviourV (188) | 1 year ago | Saviour-V teleports in...
Can't exactly believe that this is happening, honestly. However, my question is whether IsabelMarco will live up to its promises, or NOT.
Not to say there's a possibility of the wool being pulled over your eyes, but if they don't mean what they say, not even a single premium member may appear.
I have done some calculations of my own (in the vein of NeoCalculator) using an Excel file, and while the numbers look promising, there's the possibility of attrition. Notably because of a DDOS attack that happened previously.
My guess is that after that detail, it took a while for IM to recover from the possible loss of members during that time, and it may be the same with this new ruling in place.
Thankfully, I happen to be a bit close to making my first USD 9 with you guys, so after I deduct the necessary amount from my AP account, I will continue my analysis, as a 1 month premium member. If it is confirmed that IM is welshing on things, not only will I leave, but I will put the word out that IM is NOT to be trusted at all.
This is a make-or-break situation. A 50-50 straight, in my personal slang. Which means that it might work beautifully, or come crashing down horrifically.
I'm holding you and IM to your words, nanajanet. Do not fail us.
Saviour-V bows respectfully to nanajanet, and teleports out a few seconds later...
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | Well, I think that it's always a good idea to investigate. If, at anytime, I feel that IM is pulling the wool over our eyes, I will be the first to say so. So far, I have no reason to believe otherwise and know that this latest move was due to the frustrations with cheaters and people who want it all without putting anything into it.
Time will only tell.
:D
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | You are very welcome. I am not one who will put up with bad PTC sites and have dumped quite a few, and let the world know about it on different forums. I WILL tell someone if I feel a site is cheating me or others. I cannot say that of IM and a few others, like Neobux, because I feel that they are honest people trying to do a good job and make money for them and the members. How can anyone stay in business if they don't earn money for themselves. If a site is not making their own money, I wonder why they do it! LOL
I can say, from my own experience, that you will not be disappointed. I found, also, that buying refs was more cost-effective over buying ads on other sites to gain refs. I still do it but only on a smaller basis.
Happy earnings!
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | Shamzy, why do you feel that you will get your point across by cursing on here? That is rude and also against the TOS on here. It can get you in trouble.
I always say that if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. You can state facts, say that you are upset, but to use foul language does not make you look good. I tend to not take seriously anything that needs to be said or written like that.
Be nice, even when complaining, and you will be taken more seriously. That is why some of the posts on IM's forum were deleted. They were nasty as all get out and did not do a darned thing to help.
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| | 42. sdmoonchild (455) | 1 year ago | I had just signed up for Isebela Marco's new site as a free member-maybe I should cancel my membership. The new site was My Secret Piggy Bank. Thanks for the information.
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | No, don't cancel. If you have $20, buy a month premium and some referrals. I promise you that you will see a difference. Also, remember that no site can guarantee that their refs will continue clicking and sites that DO replace them, charge you to replace them.
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| | 43. yuna15 (1122) | 1 year ago | This is absolutely ridiculous! Whether they agree or not PTC sites actually survives because of the free members! I don't think I'm going to continue clicking with these PTCs. They are getting out of hand. Thanks for sharing this info.
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | Free members are only a part of these ptcs. Without people upgrading and buying refs and ads, they cannot survive.
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| | | 45. yolepassions (28) | 1 year ago | There are reasons why a website may turn its back overnight towards its free members. Believe it, isabelmarco is a business just like any other business you know around.And whatever happens to those other businesses, operating within a given domain, like world wide web, will definitely touch isabelmarco.
First, the administrative expense of the group may have gone up, and the managers felt that is the only way to balance out.Two,such a message is a signal, though in a way, that the business has come to stay. Sheer confidence on the part of a management may make a management to go that far. Three, the managers may have a new set of development plan out of their previous research works, and more cash is required to nurture the dream.
If you like what you are doing with isabelmarco and have benefitted moneywise from the business before now, you may go ahead to upgrade your membership to premium and continue enjoying the candy. There you are!
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | Very well put but I feel some people have not even read what you had to say. If you don't belong to their forum, you should join. You have a level head.
I am enjoying the candy and very happy there. Since I started being a mod, I have gotten to know a lot about how and why they do what they do and I agree with them. I am a retired business owner and know why they do what they do.
It's like people who go for car repairs and complain about the cost, like the mechanic has a choice in charging for parts and then is not allowed to make money for his or her time? People have not even the slightest clue what it takes to be a mechanic. They have to have the knowledge of a doctor who, not only treats humans, but every species on earth and in the universe.
Imagine that the human body changed every year, there were hundreds of types of bodies and that you had to buy all the new manuals, and tools to take care of these new types of bodies? It's costly!!
Well, people don't realize that and neither do they realize the inner workings of a business.
I laugh more at the people, who DO know what it's all about, sign up and then complain. If you knew the risks and still joined, the be quiet or leave. I think some just like to complain.
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| | 46. pinkista (756) | 1 year ago | Well, I'm glad that I'm not active member there anymore... I think I only have cents in my earnings there. My comment is we cannot say that all members in IM have money to buy referrals or even upgrade their accounts to premium. They joined paid to click site to earn, why do u have to spend money just to earn??
If you will base it in finding a job...do you have to pay anything on the job that you have applying for just to earn money. We want to earn money because we don't have money...
But yeah, just like the other says there are members who cheated.
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | But this is NOT a job, it's an investment company. If you want stocks, you have to buy them. If you have a Roth account, you must invest. If you want to earn interest on a bank account, you have to deposit money. Do you think the money comes from the air?
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| | 47. kiiizu (1479) | 1 year ago | Well, I understand their problems with cheaters etc. I even understand the decision they made. OK. But the way they are doing it is... absolutely dishonest, and idiotic also, sorry to say. Serious business people do not act that way. You see, I visited the site, I read new FAQ, I read the discussions on forum. There is said, IsabelMarco will not pay free members... and that's it. There should be also said: SINCE WHEN. But there is no data. At least I couldn't find it. Perhaps it is written somewhere with very small letters ... Anyway, the owners do not show any respect to free members. They do not even say: "Friends, we know, most of you are honest" and "sorry for inconvenience". No manners at all. Two of my best earners among PTR sites became ad-only sites since 1st of Oct. Only the members who have the highest upgrade will get paid in the future. The owner and admin, Shaun Croucher, informed the members about planned changes ca a month before it happened! Everybody could make his decision, and he also assured, that free members who request payout before Oct. 1st will be paid, it just takes some time. I believe him. He always paid me. I saw the queque moving, there was 43 payouts in front of me, now there are 16. I even do not mind if I have to wait another month for my $7.70. But I do NOT upgrade until I'm sure the sites will stay alive, and there will be enough members to click my ads and (hopefully ) join my sites too. That's the way a site owner should treat the members, and not like Isabel and Marco did, just informed members overnight, they will not pay free members anymore. I even didn't understand, will I still get paid or not - I'm a free member, and I requested on 14th of Sept., i.e. long before the Big Change was announced. Somebody asked on forum, will he get paid or not but he upgraded after requesting. Perhaps I will ask them later, when I'm not so angry anymore! The topic "Some explanation" which actually doesn't explain anything, begins with a (at last so it sounds to me) hysterical question from admin: "Don't think that we don't know how to run business?" - Sorry dear, I do! Despite of "oh-it's-so-great-we-love-you-whatever-you-do-blah-blah-blah"-statements on the forum there will be thousands of very angry honest free members, and I bet there will be tons of complaints on PayPal and AlertPay, especially because of purchased referrals who will just quietly quit with the site (incl. me - I joined without sponsor, so I'm sure I'm sold to somebody, and leaving quietly is exactly what I'm planning to do) and they do not replace inactive referrals... don't know about AlertPay but their PayPal account may become freezed very soon, and it will be a very serious signal for advertisers... I do not even talk about all the buzz on the net! No, treating their members like dirt isn't the best way to run a business, indeed. BTW, I can say I was lucky. I wanted to invest in their pixel ads. The idea is perfect - thousands are clicking the site every day! Now I'm happy i didn't. And of course I will NEVER upgrade there! I continue clicking until I have enough on my account to redeem for 1000 clicks, and after that I just forget about Isabel and Marco, exactly like I will forget about Bux.to.
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shamzy18 (1298) | 1 year ago | How very stupid its not fair do you think they going to give money to those who have already requested payout? if they do then i may think of getting premium but not sure because my refs will turn inactive most probably!!
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kiiizu (1479) | 1 year ago | I guess they SHOULD - or it would be pure scam. If they have a bit of honour (and common sense) left, they'll do. If not - it will be the end of this site, I hope. Remember DailyClicks? In fact, they did the same!
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nanajanet (2658) | 1 year ago | I did look at your sites. Many are on scam lists and some I joined, was burned badly and left (then found out that they were on scam lists).
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kiiizu (1479) | 1 year ago | Sorry, which sites you have in mind? I haven't there more PTCs on my profile than NeoBux, which paid me 3 times already. Others like SpiderWebmarketing, Viral Pond, Marketing Pond and Big Hitters are downline clubs (Spiderweb is for GDI, Directmatches, Yuwie, ZenZuu etc., Viral Pond for Freebie Force and GDI, and it pays for referring paid members to the club even if you're a free member; Marketing Pond is also a downline club, mostly for free sites but it also includes three other clubs: Viral Pond I mentioned already, Global TeamClub is for PTC sites, and TrafficVaweProfits - well, the title says it all, i.e. it's mostly for TrafficVaweNet but there is GDI once more, Adlandpro and some traffic exchanges, and BigHitters is a downline club for traffic exchanges. There is no force, everyone joins as many programs he wants), then there are three credit based safe lists and $1 matrix club, from owner and admin of TheClickersNet. Which one of them is scam? Freebie Force? - No, it's an absolutely legit MLM, especially benefitial for US members. GDI? - No way, has been online for years already and becomes more and more popular because more and more people and even organizations need a website, which is easy to handle. Joining SpiderWeb is absolutely free, and nobody demands, a member has to join all programs. DirectMatches is one of the most solid social networks for marketers. Yuwie and ZenZuu are absolutely free, unfortunately not SO great but better than nothing. Marketing Pond itself is absolutely free, nobody will ask there a cent ever, and there aren't any scam sites listed! TrafficVaweNet - even Mike Filsaime said some good words about it. AdlandPro - one of the best classified sites, with many many other features, also free; with upgrade options, of course. All traffic exchange sites are free. Safelists are just safelists, absolutely free marketing sites, which are offering upgrade but it isn't necessary. I'm an upgraded member of GotSafelist - this one pays even cash for clicking, it paid me over $100 already. MyFreeSafeList even offers free upgrade for credit points! Well, there is $1 matrix - but TheClickersNet is an absolutely honest site, that's why I believe in this one. Offers freebies too... So please, tell me, which one of them is scam!
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| | 49. khassandra2006 (449) | 1 year ago | Oh, too bad. That means we have to earn more for those who can't afford to buy upgrade membership. I've already invested my money in some PTC's and can't afford to invest for more.:-(
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| | | 50. rama80rl (56) | 1 year ago | Actually,I don't know about this,I am sorry
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