Obama outdid himself in this debate, so say the polls

Since I can't respond to my own discussion, I hope you won't mind me 'borrowing' your response to add another few polls, this time from SurveyUSA:

California debate-watchers: Obama 56, McCain 28
California independents: Obama 55, McCain 29.


Almost exactly the same kind of margin. Obama is getting PRECISELY the kind of results in this debate that McCain needed.

John McCain may be better off if he changes his ticket to McCain/Joe the Plumber.

I hope you don't mind if I jump in here with a HUGE news flash -

Joe the Plumber has gone to bed!
Annie

Who ever this dream person is must know nothing about Politics "Mitt Romney was on fox announcing that essentially, McCain handed Obama his a$$". Of course dummy he's an Republican, he ran for president also, he's only kissing McCain's a$$ by trying to get him elected, he also wishes he was picked for VP, for all that much you should take what Hillary said into consideration, but wait you prolly changed the channel then, cause she said theres no doubt in her mind the McCain-Palin ticket is ready for America, why are people so naive? You have no place in blogging politics cause the statement you made about "people rather taking a job from joe plumber than a one time check from Obama" is yet obvious, but what makes me really wonder how smart you are is how you put the two together since there is no actual relevance between the Two, you make no sense.Stop it.

Sweetheart, then maybe you'd better go tell Mitt Romney that they're about two different things because that was a direct quote from his mouth. I watched MSNBC, CNN and FOX for all the commentary, including listening to Hillary talk to reporters on both FOX and CNN - did you bother watching anything but FOX? Romney's contention that Obama was "flustered" was in complete contradiction to just about every other commentator including FOX's own people who referred to him as "unruffled" and "preternaturally cool".

FOX was funny. I actually turned to it for a minute, Sean Hannity was about to wet his pants over their FauxNews viewers texting in that McCain won in a landslide. Of course, he was also still babbling about William Ayers. Honestly -- what do they think it means that their loyal viewers like McCain better? It was like Sean didn't realize it was the undecideds they needed to worry about. It was a holiday inside Hannity's head. He thought McCain just won the election somehow.

"I think I can hear the fat lady, (or is that me?) singing in the next room."

If you can hear YOURSELF in another room, I recommend psychiatric evaluation.

Seriously, even I didn't think Obama did THIS well. I think I was so focused on Obama that I didn't realize how much McCain sputtered, although I DID notice where McCain laid out a false talking point about his health care plan, Obama corrected him, and McCain responded to him by REPEATING THE EXACT SAME TALKING POINT WHICH AT THAT POINT HAS NOW BEEN DEBUNKED TEN SECONDS EARLIER.

Here is THE moment from the debate, where McCain positively looked IN SHOCK as his attempt to press Obama on the "fine" thing backfired spectacularly. Just look at McCain's face from the moment "zero" leaves Obama's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T1-qwL5u5A

Amazing.

CV- McCain has done that in every debate. I think that he believes that people only believe/remember the last thing that was said. That's why in the town hall forum (his strongest format according to the political talkings heads) he repeated debunked things over and over (ie paraphrased "I never heard him say how much the fine was.") It's all so obvious and pathetic his whole campaign has been about reaching, waiting for Obama to say something, then say "NO WAY!" 2 seconds later. He(and Palin) even repeated some of the things from the DNC speech in their RNC speeches and claimed that they would do things that Obama had already done. He always chimes in at the end of every discussion with some snarky comment that only makes him look like an a$$. I'm glad the debates are done with.

Honestly - I'm not jumping up and down declaring that Obama was the over the top winner. Both of them slid out of answering tough questions, both of them made misstatements and both of them landed a couple of good points. They also both spent more time repeating their talking points than giving substantive answers. Obama tried and, I think, wasn't quite successful in getting across his point that the expenditures he's talking about are the ones that pay big dividends in the future. McCain was probably more successful in hammering home his message that Obama wants to "spread the wealth around", which anyone who pays attention to intelligent conservative (and I do not use that word as an insult) bloggers and columnists knows is all about "the guy is a socialist".

I had to do a complete double-take when I heard that one, whoa! calm down there 'My friend',

It was strange for him to say that -- and outlay an economic plan that -- well that is the same old trickle down theory.

I got a charge out of his "cadillac of insurance plans" -- you know the ones you only need if you need "plastic surgery" or "a transplant." Clueless.

I think what prompted THAT line was - even on MyLot, people have referred to him as "McBush" ... Not so much because he's in the same political party, but because he had been in support of many of Bush's policies (even though I'm not sure which ones). However, it was good for a laugh.

Link to the poll of polls.

I think that Obama consistently getting in the 50s and McCain getting in the 30s is big. Maybe you disagree, but especially in a debate where McCain needed to follow through on his "whip his you-know-what" claim, McCain not only didn't, but he didn't even WIN! He didn't even TIE! He fell FAR short of what he needed to do.

I agree, this was it--the American people have been wanting IT for months now, didnt deliver and frankly did better in previous debates than his performance tonight

not through all that blinking he did!

So, where's my money?