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myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting 4 years ago

My son Cary has autism. He has problems with language. In school somebody helps him whenever they do "language arts" (what we used to call English, I guess). Well here we are in second grade and suddenly a lot of the math involves word problems. So we were talking with his teacher and we said we though because he has problems with language, and because there were so many word problems, that we wanted to ask for additional help with that too. That got a very positive reception from the teacher so we are going to ask for that on his next IEP. Anything to make him more successful in school. But if we hadn't opened our mouths, would they have offered it? Heck no, probably not. Sometimes it's all about money, I think. And those parents who have no idea what to ask for, well their kids aren't necessarily getting the best education that they could be getting.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 68/100. LoudnProud (6249)   4 years ago

Would they heck Dawn.In my experience wi my son,they were totally oblivious to the obvious,everything had to be either proven or shown/directed to.
Teachers do not give a sh**,as long as they get their pay & all their hols,they dont care. So again no i dont think extra tutition for your son would have been offered.
Too much hard work for em...Diff countries tho,i dunno.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Some of the teachers care (until it's beaten out of them lol) but I'm not sure how much the school district does. Still it's much better here than it was in Los Angeles, that's for sure!


myLot reputation of 96/100. hiddenwing (1432)  4 years ago

The culture is quite different in your town than mine. I don't quite get it. Anyway, I hope everthing will be better!

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. miesse (355)   4 years ago

Maybe it is different where I am, but my son has a sever speech problem and I was talking to his teacher yesterday and she informed me that above and beyond the speech therapist that the school board pays for, they are having another teacher take him for a certain amount of time every week to work some more on his speech skills. She told me they have decided to do this because the therapist that is paid for by the school board cannot give enough support to my son due to lack of staff and funding in that area. So it was all my son's school idea to give him even more help, all I did was sign the permission form to allow them to give him the extra help for his speech skills that he desperatly needs.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

That is wonderful - and rare from what I've heard. Good for them!

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3. myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)   4 years ago

I have no experiences from what you are talking about.
beacuse I have no children.
I live in sweden,and I know that a child with any kind of handicap (don´t know if autism is count as a handicap)can get a teacher´s assistant.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I wonder if they assign them automatically though or if the parent has to ask!


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

Sorry,I don´t know how it works.
I think you must ask for it.Perhaps the social security office can help you,give you a phonenumber.
Perhaps it´s more easy for your son to learn things,in a peaceful area,only with an assistent beside him


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Sometimes it is easier for him. The teacher can't always slow things down just for him.


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

It can´t be easy to be a teacher today.
And it can´t be easy to be a pupil today.
I think many children today have problem to learn things.
Beacuse everything shall go so fast,no time at all to slow down for some minutes


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

and TONS of homework!!! I don't even remember having any homework at their age!


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

I have heard so many children saying,that they don´t have much homework.
are there long school days for the children in your country?
Here in sweden,I think most of the children begin around 8 o´clock and stop around 3 or 4 in the afternoon.
When i was a child,we went to school on Saturdays


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I remember in Germany they had school on Saturdays!

Here the school days are from 8 until a little after 2. Seems to me when I was in school it was until 3.


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

Yes,it´s long days for the school children.
Especially if they have a lot of homework.
I understand that too many of them are tired of the school


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Long day especially for the little ones!


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

But in Sweden,many of the children have been at least 5-6 hour a day in the kindergarten.
In my opinion,it a shame to live your children for so many hours every day.
If both the parents are working,it is probrably not necessary that both of them are working fulltime


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Well there's always day care. Some parents can't afford for both not to work, I guess.


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

I know it costs a lot with children,then you have so save on something,even if it´s hard


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

It's hard either way!


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

I know,but everything goes if you only want to do a thing.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

and if you're willing to make the necessary sacrifices...


myLot reputation of 64/100. ennasus59 (1254)  4 years ago

In my opinion,money isn´t all in the world.
For me,it´s more important to have them so I survive

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

I think parents do need to get involved in their kids education. Lets face facts here Teachers are overworked and underpaid and most parents anymore expect the teachers and the school system to handle their kids and their kids problems while they are at school. There are not a lot of parents out there anymore that actually get involved. So Kudos to you!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Yep we do need to get involved, especially when there's a special needs kid!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

That's true! There is a reason that my daughter is homeschooled. Even trying to get the school involved sometimes is a nightmare depending on the school itself.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

and the school district...


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Very good point. My daughter is so fed up with it when she turns 16 in january she is going to withdrawl from the school system entirely and just get her GED so she can go on with her life.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Well better that than a lot of things. The education system isn't for everybody, that's for sure!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

True true. She wants to go to school for cosomotogly or however you spell it. BTW I still havent gone out and got smokes lol. Brain doesn't like to function right under those circumstances lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

go get smokes, I have lots of responses to get the last word on!!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Couldn't find enough change. So it looks like I am stuck for now without. Trying to get through it though. I will be ok I am sure I can wait till my fiance gets home tonight hopefully about 10 30 or so.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

lol I thought I was going to get at least a 2 minute break there!!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

There I gave you a bit of a break lol now no more slacking!!!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

hahaha


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

ok breaks over!! get back to work lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

work or work?


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Both lol. I will be in and out today checking up on you heheheheheh.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I really need to be OUT as I really do have some work I need to get done.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Go get your work done! lol I have some articles i need to get written anyway and you are distracting me hehehhehhe.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I'm going. REally I am!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Riiiiiiight you expct me to believe that one? Ha! I know better I KNOW YOUR TRICKS!!!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

really, I'm gone, really... blush


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

See I knew it!! I knew you couldn't resist and would have to come back here hheheheheheheeh.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

no you didn't no I didn't
really


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I know you couldn't resist!! Thats the funny part heheheheh. Neither of us can help ourselves, I think though we may need a new discussion to get things going again though heheheh.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

I did just post one actually.
Going to get some lunch now.
And no, I don't seem to be able to help myself. It's a problem, seriously, sometimes anyway.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

what we need is a 12 step mylot addition program, I will post the discussion! hehehehehe


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

and then I will go over to it and PROVE that we need the program!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Sweet let me get to work on it right away then!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

kewl


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

OYu gotta help me promote it though okies?


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

k


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Now I know you are getting bored...we are having one word and now one letter answers, I had more faith in you than that!!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

So sorry but I"m on a conference call and you only have half of my attention. The half that's awake though!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

at least I get the awake part, I will let it go this time for now anyway lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

thanks that is incredibly big of you! w00t


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Isn't it though? Heheheheh I try. I can't please everyone though!!!! (lost d@mn internet connection yesterday so you got the last word for a while lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Saw your grumpy comment about the sheeple and magnanimously decided to let you have the last word on that one!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Well thank you. It wasn't all the grumpy actually I was a bit fusterated cause I couldn't write an article to save my life and the troll was getting on my nerves!! lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Shall I say a troll banishing spell?


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

oh please do!! none of mine work anymore lol. I think I have used mine way too much and they have become ineffective.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Begone, O Troll, before I send the fleas of a thousand camels to infest your armpits while you are hanging from a pole over a pit of crocodiles!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Erilyn (563)   ranked 89 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

She already has the fleas, I have to spray everything everyday for them. We need something a bit stronger lol.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

Norwegian troll eating fleas?

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. 1grnthmb (1557)   ranked 212 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

Our youngest daughter has also had learning disorders and had to have help. The IEP meetings were the only way to get things done. They never volunteered to do something unless it was asked for. She also needed help in the language arts and, like Cary, needed help with the word problems in math. She loves math but the word problems always bogged her down. Now that she is in High School she is supposed to still have an aid working with her but she hasn't had one. We had a meeting with them about this and they said she did not need it because she is getting a passing grade in the class. She also has a "Study Skills" class where they go over the math problems that they do not understand. And to our surprise, Becky is the one helping all the other kids out with their math. hey say it is because she got so much help before that she learned how to do it on her own now. Wow, what a transition. I hope that Cary gets just as good of aids and teachers as Becky got.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

He's a smart little guy, so maybe!

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. rusty2rusty (4225)   ranked 144 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

You are right about that. School with offer anything your children are entitled entitled to. But first you must know what to ask for. That is a problem for parents. The ones who don't knwo what to ask for. I knwo I ran in to teh same problem with my daughter. I ended going to the school board last year because of the whole mess. It took care of it and got the paper work I neede started. But the testing I asked for was never complete. Now she goes to a new school. I have yet to talk to the teachers. But for some reason her reading and my sons reading level has improved from failing to high "B's". Go figure.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

yep you have to know what to ask for!

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7. myLot reputation of 89/100. ginnypetree (115)   ranked 3,547 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

My daughter is in 5th grade and she has been going to speech thrapy since 2nd grade and she also has a special needs teacher. Let me tell you when she was in 1st grade it was a nightmare. The teacher accused me for being the problem! The teacher accused me of being some kind of monster. Anyways one lady bent over backwards for me and my daughter.. That lady was my daughters speech teacher.
My daughters home room teacher never told me about any help out there at all.
So now im more educated and at my daughters IEP meetings I have a paper filled with questions I now ask. I agree with you I think its about money. Best of luck to you...


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

So far all my son's teachers have been caring, it's been more the district. Sorry you ran into a bad one. And thanks!

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8. myLot reputation of 71/100. subha12 (16391)   4 years ago

it is true. unlesss you tell nobody will give you. also how they would know. But in my case, in office, saying many problems has not eased anything, they know my concerns, but do not do anything.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

that sucks!


myLot reputation of 93/100. highflyingxangel (9336)   ranked 2,122 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

You can get a lawyer to fight that sort of thing because there is an IEP process that schools must follow to make sure that children recieve the help that they need in a timely manner. It's also important to remember that you can call an IEP meeting anytime you want, every week if you want to make sure your child is getting the help they need and deserve.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

except Subha is in India, so I'm sure things are a lot different there!

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9. myLot reputation of 93/100. highflyingxangel (9336)   ranked 2,122 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

Unless you have a really caring teacher or an advocate that can attend meetings with you to help you get the services that are needed, they usually don't suggest anything. When I'm finally teaching, if I ever have to be involved in an IEP, I'm definitely going to be the teacher that makes suggestions for the parent and helps the parent through the IEP process so the child does get the help that is needed. Otherwise, schools care more about just getting it done and over with instead of actually getting the child the help they need.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

We had our service coordinator from the Regional Center attend Cary's first IEP. She knew a lot more than we did and told us what to ask for. the Vice Principal of the school was not at all happy about it!

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. Nhey16 (1704)   ranked 1,211 out of 9,011 in parenting   4 years ago

i do agree with you Dawnald... a lot of teachers would not have the initiative to tell parents what the kids needs...during parent-teachers conferences, i do encounter teachers who would not even bother to tell me what the strengths and weaknesses of my kids are... they would just tell me if i did ask them, but if i dont ask, they would not tell me anything...


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 9,011 in parenting  4 years ago

As in anything else, some teachers are better than others at that...

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