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| My son Cary has autism. He has problems with language. In school somebody helps him whenever they do "language arts" (what we used to call English, I guess). Well here we are in second grade and suddenly a lot of the math involves word problems. So we were talking with his teacher and we said we though because he has problems with language, and because there were so many word problems, that we wanted to ask for additional help with that too. That got a very positive reception from the teacher so we are going to ask for that on his next IEP. Anything to make him more successful in school. But if we hadn't opened our mouths, would they have offered it? Heck no, probably not. Sometimes it's all about money, I think. And those parents who have no idea what to ask for, well their kids aren't necessarily getting the best education that they could be getting. | | | | | |
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1. LoudnProud (6249)
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4 years ago
| | Would they heck Dawn.In my experience wi my son,they were totally oblivious to the obvious,everything had to be either proven or shown/directed to. Teachers do not give a sh**,as long as they get their pay & all their hols,they dont care. So again no i dont think extra tutition for your son would have been offered. Too much hard work for em...Diff countries tho,i dunno. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Some of the teachers care (until it's beaten out of them lol) but I'm not sure how much the school district does. Still it's much better here than it was in Los Angeles, that's for sure! | | | |
hiddenwing (1432)
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4 years ago
| | The culture is quite different in your town than mine. I don't quite get it. Anyway, I hope everthing will be better! | | | |
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2. miesse (355)
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4 years ago
| | Maybe it is different where I am, but my son has a sever speech problem and I was talking to his teacher yesterday and she informed me that above and beyond the speech therapist that the school board pays for, they are having another teacher take him for a certain amount of time every week to work some more on his speech skills. She told me they have decided to do this because the therapist that is paid for by the school board cannot give enough support to my son due to lack of staff and funding in that area. So it was all my son's school idea to give him even more help, all I did was sign the permission form to allow them to give him the extra help for his speech skills that he desperatly needs. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | That is wonderful - and rare from what I've heard. Good for them! | | | |
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3. ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | I have no experiences from what you are talking about. beacuse I have no children. I live in sweden,and I know that a child with any kind of handicap (don´t know if autism is count as a handicap)can get a teacher´s assistant. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | I wonder if they assign them automatically though or if the parent has to ask! | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | Sorry,I don´t know how it works. I think you must ask for it.Perhaps the social security office can help you,give you a phonenumber. Perhaps it´s more easy for your son to learn things,in a peaceful area,only with an assistent beside him | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Sometimes it is easier for him. The teacher can't always slow things down just for him. | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | It can´t be easy to be a teacher today. And it can´t be easy to be a pupil today. I think many children today have problem to learn things. Beacuse everything shall go so fast,no time at all to slow down for some minutes | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | and TONS of homework!!! I don't even remember having any homework at their age! | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | I have heard so many children saying,that they don´t have much homework. are there long school days for the children in your country? Here in sweden,I think most of the children begin around 8 o´clock and stop around 3 or 4 in the afternoon. When i was a child,we went to school on Saturdays | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | I remember in Germany they had school on Saturdays! Here the school days are from 8 until a little after 2. Seems to me when I was in school it was until 3. | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | Yes,it´s long days for the school children. Especially if they have a lot of homework. I understand that too many of them are tired of the school | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Long day especially for the little ones! | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | But in Sweden,many of the children have been at least 5-6 hour a day in the kindergarten. In my opinion,it a shame to live your children for so many hours every day. If both the parents are working,it is probrably not necessary that both of them are working fulltime | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Well there's always day care. Some parents can't afford for both not to work, I guess. | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | I know it costs a lot with children,then you have so save on something,even if it´s hard | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | It's hard either way! | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | I know,but everything goes if you only want to do a thing. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | and if you're willing to make the necessary sacrifices... | | | |
ennasus59 (1254)
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4 years ago
| | In my opinion,money isn´t all in the world. For me,it´s more important to have them so I survive | | | |
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4. Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | I think parents do need to get involved in their kids education. Lets face facts here Teachers are overworked and underpaid and most parents anymore expect the teachers and the school system to handle their kids and their kids problems while they are at school. There are not a lot of parents out there anymore that actually get involved. So Kudos to you! | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Yep we do need to get involved, especially when there's a special needs kid! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | That's true! There is a reason that my daughter is homeschooled. Even trying to get the school involved sometimes is a nightmare depending on the school itself. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | and the school district... | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Very good point. My daughter is so fed up with it when she turns 16 in january she is going to withdrawl from the school system entirely and just get her GED so she can go on with her life. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Well better that than a lot of things. The education system isn't for everybody, that's for sure! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | True true. She wants to go to school for cosomotogly or however you spell it. BTW I still havent gone out and got smokes lol. Brain doesn't like to function right under those circumstances lol. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | go get smokes, I have lots of responses to get the last word on!!! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Couldn't find enough change. So it looks like I am stuck for now without. Trying to get through it though. I will be ok I am sure I can wait till my fiance gets home tonight hopefully about 10 30 or so. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | lol I thought I was going to get at least a 2 minute break there!!! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | There I gave you a bit of a break lol now no more slacking!!! | | | |
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Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | ok breaks over!! get back to work lol. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | work or work? | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Both lol. I will be in and out today checking up on you heheheheheh. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | I really need to be OUT as I really do have some work I need to get done. | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Go get your work done! lol I have some articles i need to get written anyway and you are distracting me hehehhehhe. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | I'm going. REally I am! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Riiiiiiight you expct me to believe that one? Ha! I know better I KNOW YOUR TRICKS!!! | | | |
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Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | See I knew it!! I knew you couldn't resist and would have to come back here hheheheheheheeh. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | no you didn't no I didn't really | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | I know you couldn't resist!! Thats the funny part heheheheh. Neither of us can help ourselves, I think though we may need a new discussion to get things going again though heheheh. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | I did just post one actually. Going to get some lunch now. And no, I don't seem to be able to help myself. It's a problem, seriously, sometimes anyway. | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | what we need is a 12 step mylot addition program, I will post the discussion! hehehehehe | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | and then I will go over to it and PROVE that we need the program! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Sweet let me get to work on it right away then! | | | |
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Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | OYu gotta help me promote it though okies? | | | |
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Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Now I know you are getting bored...we are having one word and now one letter answers, I had more faith in you than that!! | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | So sorry but I"m on a conference call and you only have half of my attention. The half that's awake though! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | at least I get the awake part, I will let it go this time for now anyway lol. | | | |
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Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Isn't it though? Heheheheh I try. I can't please everyone though!!!! (lost d@mn internet connection yesterday so you got the last word for a while lol. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Saw your grumpy comment about the sheeple and magnanimously decided to let you have the last word on that one! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | Well thank you. It wasn't all the grumpy actually I was a bit fusterated cause I couldn't write an article to save my life and the troll was getting on my nerves!! lol. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Shall I say a troll banishing spell? | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | oh please do!! none of mine work anymore lol. I think I have used mine way too much and they have become ineffective. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Begone, O Troll, before I send the fleas of a thousand camels to infest your armpits while you are hanging from a pole over a pit of crocodiles! | | | |
Erilyn (563)
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4 years ago
| | She already has the fleas, I have to spray everything everyday for them. We need something a bit stronger lol. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | Norwegian troll eating fleas? | | | |
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dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | He's a smart little guy, so maybe! | | | |
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6. rusty2rusty (4225)
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4 years ago
| | You are right about that. School with offer anything your children are entitled entitled to. But first you must know what to ask for. That is a problem for parents. The ones who don't knwo what to ask for. I knwo I ran in to teh same problem with my daughter. I ended going to the school board last year because of the whole mess. It took care of it and got the paper work I neede started. But the testing I asked for was never complete. Now she goes to a new school. I have yet to talk to the teachers. But for some reason her reading and my sons reading level has improved from failing to high "B's". Go figure. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | yep you have to know what to ask for! | | | |
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7. ginnypetree (115)
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4 years ago
| | My daughter is in 5th grade and she has been going to speech thrapy since 2nd grade and she also has a special needs teacher. Let me tell you when she was in 1st grade it was a nightmare. The teacher accused me for being the problem! The teacher accused me of being some kind of monster. Anyways one lady bent over backwards for me and my daughter.. That lady was my daughters speech teacher. My daughters home room teacher never told me about any help out there at all. So now im more educated and at my daughters IEP meetings I have a paper filled with questions I now ask. I agree with you I think its about money. Best of luck to you... | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | So far all my son's teachers have been caring, it's been more the district. Sorry you ran into a bad one. And thanks! | | | |
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8. subha12 (16391)
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4 years ago
| | it is true. unlesss you tell nobody will give you. also how they would know. But in my case, in office, saying many problems has not eased anything, they know my concerns, but do not do anything. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | that sucks! | | | |
highflyingxangel (9336)
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4 years ago
| | You can get a lawyer to fight that sort of thing because there is an IEP process that schools must follow to make sure that children recieve the help that they need in a timely manner. It's also important to remember that you can call an IEP meeting anytime you want, every week if you want to make sure your child is getting the help they need and deserve. | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | except Subha is in India, so I'm sure things are a lot different there! | | | |
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9. highflyingxangel (9336)
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4 years ago
| | Unless you have a really caring teacher or an advocate that can attend meetings with you to help you get the services that are needed, they usually don't suggest anything. When I'm finally teaching, if I ever have to be involved in an IEP, I'm definitely going to be the teacher that makes suggestions for the parent and helps the parent through the IEP process so the child does get the help that is needed. Otherwise, schools care more about just getting it done and over with instead of actually getting the child the help they need. | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | We had our service coordinator from the Regional Center attend Cary's first IEP. She knew a lot more than we did and told us what to ask for. the Vice Principal of the school was not at all happy about it! | | | |
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10. Nhey16 (1704)
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4 years ago
| | i do agree with you Dawnald... a lot of teachers would not have the initiative to tell parents what the kids needs...during parent-teachers conferences, i do encounter teachers who would not even bother to tell me what the strengths and weaknesses of my kids are... they would just tell me if i did ask them, but if i dont ask, they would not tell me anything... | | | | | | |
dawnald (24270)
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4 years ago
| | As in anything else, some teachers are better than others at that... | | | |
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