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myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion 3 years ago

Can you tell me how easter went from the return Of Christ to the day the Easter Bunny hides eggs? I don't understand. The Return seems to me as a joyous but serious holiday, how did the Easter Bunny crash this party? Thanks for all your responses. Have a Happy easter.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. danishcanadian (24623)   ranked 44 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

I'm not 100% sure, but I imagine it was something done by secular society to make Easter a "holiday" for everyone, not just the religious/spiritual Christians. I feel that the same thing has happened with Christmas. Where did Santa come into a holiday that is supposed to celebrate the birth of Christ?


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Santa Claus was morphed from a real saint. Saint Nicholas.Saint Nick gave to poor children, His story came over to the U.S. ansd got commericalized.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

His story came over to the U.S. ansd got commericalized.

Yep, by the Coca Cola Company no less...thats how Santa ended up in the red suit etc..it was a commercial gimmick


myLot reputation of 91/100. lotterylover (7442)   ranked 73 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

AFter the pope died I noticed he was in a red suit with white trimming. I thought maybe we got the Santa Suit idea from the pope but then I thought maybe the pope got the idea from a pagan tradition as so many of the Catholic church has adopted rituals, emblems, and holidays from the pagans. Even the statue of Peter used to be a pagan god. I think it was Jupiter. Even the steeples on churches is a pagan symbol. I wonder how many people would look at the steeple in a different way if they knew what it had represented in the pagan world.


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 273 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Actualy sants suit was taken from the bishops robes

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 40 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

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myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

ThAanks. Now it makes sense.My mom and Dad were Christian so when I was young, I did gat a stuffed bunny during Easter and I went on a egg hunts too . But when I got too old for all this Easter ceased to mean anything until I ironically became Jewish. I could never mesh Christ and The Easter Bunny. Thanks for your help. Question. We Jews have Passover, our Christian friends have Easter, Isalam just celebrated a New Year, what do you Pagans have this time of year?


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 40 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

As I mentioned Ostara is our "spring" celebration, so that's what we pagan/wiccans celebrate...so we already had our celebration...but heck...I celebrate Easter too...LOL..at least to fix a special meal..


myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2227)   ranked 340 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

yup
its all us pagans' fault
isnt everything though? LOL


myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 106 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

LOL no doubt wont...and great post pye!


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Well I hope you had a joyous celebration. And I want to wish you happy Easter.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. sysdexlicwriter (1210)   ranked 728 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

If you check out an old edition of World Book Encyclopedia it will tell you that the word "Easter" is pagan in origin, the bunnies and eggs are also pagan in origin. I always wonder why people don't question how the eggs and bunnies go together. Rabbits don't lay eggs and yet that's what accompanies the rabbit. Hmmmmmm. Go back to Constantine and when he melted paganism into Christianity and Christianity into paganism. He was bringing his kingdom together. Now you have pagans keeping their fertility festivals with a Christian twist. No wonder the church looked so different three hundred years after Christ's death. There is much lost in true Christianity by messing with this.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

By trying to fit all these peoples under the Christian umbrella changed everything.It is good and bad. Now I understand, Thanks for your response.


myLot reputation of 96/100. sysdexlicwriter (1210)   ranked 728 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Once you know the history, you can ask God what you should do about it. This knowledge opens up a lot of possibilities to what else you can explore in this area. My life has been so enriched to observe the Passover in conjunction with the Lord's Supper, to understand things like the wave sheaf offering, how Jesus did not die on Good Friday. He died as the Passover lamb once and for all just prior to Passover when the lamb was killed year after year. Wow, now all of a sudden the Old Testament and New Testament start to fit together. As for the bunnies and the eggs, I do still love chocolate.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

I always love it when Easter and Passover come together.If I have it right, I have to check, the first day of Passover is the Wednesday before good Friday. That is so close.

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4. myLot reputation of 100/100. jillhill (17717)   ranked 1,040 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

Seriously I was wondering the same thing yesterday....I don't know how it got started.....I do know that it's the most joyous of all occasions!


myLot reputation of 91/100. lotterylover (7442)   ranked 73 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

REad all of the above post and you will have a pretty good idea of how it all came about.

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5. myLot reputation of 73/100. Starflames (127)   ranked 1,610 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

Halloween, Christmas, Easter, etc... ARE NOT "true" Biblical holidays. They are man-made holidays and traditions. None are Biblical and none are commanded to be kept.

Look at a good encyclopedia and you will find out that they are all pagan traditions. The Church in Rome incorporated all these pagan holidays into the church in order to cater to all peoples of all back grounds and thus, fatten its membership.

Today, it is claimed that Easter is kept in honor of the Resurrection of Jesus, but even when very simply tested with scripture, it falls way short of its mark.

The Church tradition states that Christ "died" on Good Friday (Evening) and was Resurrected on Easter Sunday ("sunrise" Morning). So this would only give you two evenings and one day- or two and two, depending on how you look at it.

However, Christ Himself stated that He'd be in the grave "three days and three nights" (Matthew 12:40).

So the Bible shatters this cherished man-made pagan tradition.

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6. myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

Mashlomech Sarah,

You need to read the history of the Council of Nicea. This was where all the different factions of christianity were brought under one roof by the pagan ruler Constantine. The pagans were also incorporated into the mix. The only ones who exited the party were the Jews they wanted no part of the whole business. It is also when the Gnostics were destroyed. The Gnostics were the folks who followed the lifestyle of the christ the closest. For some reason this was not pleasing to the other factions.

This is why all of the major christian holidays are celebrated on old pagan holidays and why pagan rituals sneak into christian rituals. Its not just the egg which is the pagan symbol for life. There is the incense used in the catholic church to purify both people and religious icons etc. Then of course there are the icons themselves. Icons begat Icons!

Shalom~Adoniah


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 273 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Adoniah my freind, this is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyXM5QMWnFo


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Toda Raba, Thank you Free,

I had not seen that. It was nice of you to share it with me.

Shalom


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 273 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Kol ‘od balleivav penimah
Nefesh yehudi homiyah,
Ul fa’atei mizrach kadimah,
‘Ayin letziyon tzofiyah;

Od lo avdah tikvateinu,
Hatikvah bat shnot alpayim,
Lihyot ‘am chofshi be’artzeinu,
Eretz-tziyon vy rushalayim.

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7. myLot reputation of 69/100. miamilady (2490)   ranked 261 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

I think it's interesting that you have more Pagans replying to your question than Christians. it makes me wonder if the Christians are in denial about the Pagan influence of if they just don't know the answer to your question.

Thanks for asking the question though, I've been curious about that too.
I do remember hearing one time (I think it was while I was attending church) that it has something to do with symoblizing "rebirth" the the Pagan connection was not mentioned.

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8. myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 273 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

Easter is the western pronunciation of the word Ishtar, The festival of Ishtar was a spring fertility festival held forty days after the weeping for Tammuz in the Babylonian and Assyrian culture. Ishtar was the goddess of both fertility, and the mother goddess. The signs of her deity were fertal signs, eggs, rabbits, fish. Ishtar ruled the day friday, she demanded bloodless sacrifices, and meatless sacrifices, so her main offerings were unleavened wafers and fish. Also the followers of Ishtar "Queen of Heaven" would with hold from eating meat on her holy day of Friday and would opt for eating fish. Her son Tammuz was killed and his body was spread through out the land, she searched forty days to find his body and when she found them she put them back together. her followers now mark the day of this by fasting and weeping for forty days, and celebrate the resurection of Tammuz and his mother co-redeemer Ishtar with this spring festival. The priest of the temple would hide a coin or an egg, the person who found the coin or egg would then have prosperity for the year. They would also mark a special day for when Tammuz was fully recovered and became Shamash the Sun god. this is on Dec 25th, when the Sun dies and is reborn.

The actual word in Greek was PASCAL, Greek for passover. The word was changed to Easter by the Church of Rome in 333 A.D. because the Passover and the festival of Ishtar was very close together, they combined the two and made easter the official church holy day. thus the passover when the Christ died and took away the sins of the world was changed to a pagan holiday of the resurrection of an ancient pagan deity and survived with its ceremonies and rituals much like Christmas.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Thanks for your response! So that is why, eggs and hiding them, 40 days of lent, and having fish on Fridays and other rituals are pagan, I lovee it. I beleve there is one Essence that people call G-d and other names. So if religions borrow, or should I say share, rites I think it is great.We are one .Thanks it is so much clearer now.


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

There was a time when the catholics set their celebration of easter according the the Jewish Pesach. But at the Council of Nicea Constantine made the decision that no longer would easter and the dirty Jewish Pesach coencide.

In reality, if you count the days, it is impossible for the christ to have had the last supper on fri and then to rise from the dead on sun. He was supposed to be dead for 3 days and 3 nights. That is not enough time. Also, if you do the math, Pesach did not land on the fri. that he was supposedly celebrating it on.

I enjoyed the information you provided!

Shalom


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 273 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Passover that year would have fallen on a Wednesday. Wednesdays evening to be precise, and if you count three evenings and tree days then it makes sense to where Mary, early after the Sabbath (which would have been Saturday evening, which is actual;y Sunday the first day of the week. The days then were not sun up to sun up, but sundown to sundown, hence Sunday began on what we call Saturday evening. And considering all the letters or Epistles we are told that his death and burial was the day that was observed, not the resurection day. So the first century church followed Passover, not the older festival of Ishtar.

The Church of Rome has Muddled up the doctrine of Christ so much it has become unrecognizable.


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

Jews have always considered Saturday to be the Sabbath and of course the christ was a Jew not a christian. But I was speaking of todays time frame. They claim he died Fri evening and rose Sun morning. That is only 2 nights. Not enough time. Even if you ignore that it is the wrong days of the week due to Constantine. They just cannot get it right at all.

Shalom

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9. myLot reputation of 95/100. HomeFlower (409)   ranked 1,287 out of 6,504 in religion   3 years ago

I was raised Catholic but don't really know where the Easter bunny came from. I like Pyewhcket's explanation.

I'm aware that quite a few of our rites and rituals are from the pagan rituals of bygone centuries -- but couldn't pinpoint them if I had to. Incidentally, I question everything and the more I read, the more I lean towards Judaism.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15803)   ranked 42 out of 6,504 in religion  3 years ago

With me, first it was the music, then it was that Judaism not only lets you question but encourages you to question. You can ask any question and even if the answer is because of a long tradition you get your answer. You are not thought of as a sinner just ny questioning.Thanks for your response.

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