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myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion 3 years ago

Have you noticed all the 13's associated with the last pope? Here are a few.

December 13, 1981
John Paul II invites prayers for the Polish nation, calling the situation a state of emergency.

May 13, 1982
(Exactly 1 year after the attack where he almost lost his life)
Before the statue of Our Lady of Fátima, John Paul II recites the Act of consecration and entrustment of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

April 13, 1986
John Paul II makes a visit to Rome's main Synagogue .

January 13, 1987
John Paul II receives in audience the President of the Council of the People's Republic of Poland, Wojciech Jaruzelski .

November 13, 1989
Meeting of the diocesan bishops of the Federal Republic of Germany with the Holy Father on the theme: "Handing the faith to the next generation and the pastoral work of catechesis".

April 13, 1991
Reorganization of the Latin-Rite Catholic Church in the Soviet Republic of Belarus, Russia and Kazakistan.

August 13, 1991
Pastoral Visit in Poland, at Czestochowa for the 6th World Youth Day and in Hungary
Apostolic Voyage 52 [52 = 13 x 4]

January 13, 1992
Holy See recognizes Croatia and Slovenia .

February 13, 1992
Papal chirograph for the Indipendent Foundation Popolorum Progressio at the service of the indiginous peoples and the campesinos in Latin America, established on the occasion of the 5th centenary of the evangelization of Latin America.

June 13, 1994
Fifth Plenary Assembly of the College of Cardinals, with John Paul II participating, in preparation for the Jubilee of the Third Millennium.

December 13, 1994
Letter to Children, in the Year of the Family.

November 13, 1996
The Holy Father addresses the opening of the UN World Food Summit organized by FAO (UN Food and Agricultural Organization) in Rome.

May 13, 2000
Cardinal Angelo Sodano announced that the "third part" of the secret of Fatima will be made public. The Message of Fatima will be published in its entirety on 26 [13 x 2] June 2000.

June 13, 2000
John Paul II expresses his satisfaction for the clemency granted to Mehmet Alì Agca [who made an attempt on the Pope's life on May 13, 1981] by the President of Italy during this jubilee year.

December 13, 2001
Famous Meeting of the Pope with Bishops from the Holy Land, on the theme: "Peace in the Holy Land and the Future of Christians"

In his title, if we allow to replace Roman II by Latin 2 we obtain:
Pope John Paul 2 = 13 symbols
Pape Jean-Paul 2 = 13 symbols
Giovanni Paolo = 13 symbols
Ioannes Paulus = 13 symbols

The priestly hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church contains 13th ecclesiastical titles.

The celebration of the Epiphany takes place the 13th day after the nativity of the Lord. Number 13 is called theophanicus for that reason.

The 13th glorious mystery of the Holy Rosary relates directly to the Pentecost.

The number 13 = Numerical value of J.-C. (Jesus Christ), in the logical alphanumeric coding (with C=3 and J=10); A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, … Y=25, Z=26

In mathematical terms, the number 13 contains the Trinity:
13 = 3/. 3 + 3 = 3: 0,3 + 3 that is 13 = 10 + 3

The number 13 = " Mark of time "; one year = 52 weeks = 13 x 4 weeks.

The alphabet and its language wear the mark of the number 13 because the alphabet contains 26 symbols and 26 = 13 x 2.


I could go on but you get the point

 

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1. myLot reputation of 80/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 26 out of 6,501 in religion   3 years ago

You mean he is unlucky ?
lol


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Was


myLot reputation of 80/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 26 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

blush
Ok I get the point
He was a special person
Who got everythig done on the 13
It maybe by chance that he got everything on the 13

Btw
Your research is gr8 it's excellent


Have a gr8 time
Njoy

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myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Thanks Mathss I try to at least sound like I know what I am talking aboutthumbup

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2. myLot reputation of 73/100. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (1509)   ranked 573 out of 6,501 in religion   3 years ago

Happy Easter for a post that was posted 13 hours ago...


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Thank You and happy Easter, I am looking right now at the menu above, and I see someone posted a new thread 13 minutes ago in religion as well.

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3. myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,501 in religion   3 years ago

That must have taken you awhile. Since I am Jewish, I use the Hebrew numbers so these all mean nothing to me. Not to mention the christian testament means nothing to me, nor does the pope unless he does something entertaining like saying hell is a physical place.

However, I do like the number 13. Mostly because the church placed a curse on it and christians fear it. I love it. Since I know that no one can put a curse on a number, much less the "church", I enjoy using the number whenever possible.

I always had it on my jersy when I played sports. It was a great intimidation factor against the other team.

Your points are taken, but are meaningless to a Jew.

Shalom~Adoniah


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

In Hebrew, doesn't 13 mean rebellion? I should do some posts with Hebrew numbers, I will have to research this, The only one I have done recently is 501, but maybe I can do some more gematria and see what I come up with. Shalom


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

The Jewish religion is the only religion that allows rebellion! We are allowed to argue with Hashem as long as we always remember who He is and who we are!

Shalom


myLot reputation of 79/100. Lindalinda (3181)   ranked 118 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Hi Adoniah,
I don't pay attention to numbers or their symbolism or meaning, Christian or otherwise. I heard though that in some cultures (Christian) the number 13 is lucky. Not so for most. I live in a condo building and of course there is no 13th floor. I have worked in a number of high rises also and there is no 13th floor either. I have read about the Kabala and I know numbers have a significance in that branch of Judaism. I know also in Chinese culture some numbers are lucky and some are not. Interesting stuff.

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4. myLot reputation of 45/100. murderistic (1046)   ranked 601 out of 6,501 in religion   3 years ago

All of this probably means that you have too much time on your hands.


myLot reputation of 80/100. mathss1 (777)   ranked 26 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

w00t
Hi
MURDERISTIC

Long time no see

Welcome back !!!happy

He has too much knowledge not time

have a gr8 time
Njoy

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5. myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)   3 years ago

I think you have a problem freethinking in seeing patterns in everything.
I take it you know there is an evolutionary reason for this acknowledged by scientists?


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

A problem seeing patterns in everything? Of Course I see patterns in everything, everything IS a pattern. The universe is a constant pattern, the source is not chaos, but uniformity. Maybe the problem is that others can not see simple patterns. If they could see simple patterns in coincidental evens they could see what the universe is trying to tel;l them. Something happens, people say "it was without warning"! BUNK they just did not heed the signs and warnings. You believe everything is just chance and close your mind to the possibility that there might be an order to things, and that maybe some people may see that order like looking through a glass, not saying I am one of those, but I do not limit my experience here in this world of limitless possibilities.


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Ah but the Universe is chaotic and will become more and more so as time goes on. It does not follow a defined pattern. Think about the commets and their lack of pattern. Asteroids and meteors crashing hither and yon. What about dark matter and black holes gobbling up everything in their path?

What about when the Universe stops expanding and starts imploding, won't that be a real gas?!w00t

Shalom


myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)  3 years ago

I agree Adoniah. Not much pattern there.
Even in the world of quantam physics everything is pure chance. That is how this physical world functions.


myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)  3 years ago

As i see it freethinking you are limiting your world of endless possibilies, of which i agree, by trying to define things as you do.


myLot reputation of 68/100. Adoniah (4166)   ranked 576 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Patterns and order are a form of comfort. Chaos can be painful to some. I do understand this.

I pesonally enjoy a little chaos. Like my living space.lol Fortunately I do not acquire friends, so no one ever visits.

I do not mean to make light of my first statement.

Shalom


myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)  3 years ago

I think one thing us humans can do is to make a little sense out of the chaos when we can. On the other hand i think it is perhaps an art to live quite happily within the chaos!


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

Oh I have to disagree. It may look like chaos, but it has patterns, Physics, astronomy any science can be expressed by numbers and physical laws, laws have ORDER, just because they do not appear to be dancing in unison does not mean they are without order. Comets and things bumping into each other is not a sign of no order, they are acting in perfect harmony with the laws of physics and using physics we can predict their movements, it is total order, it just looks like its a mess.


myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)  3 years ago

Of course there are underlying physical laws of the universe, i have a scientific mind.


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (1056)   ranked 272 out of 6,501 in religion  3 years ago

then everything has a pattern that is determined by laws?


myLot reputation of 19/100. islander7 (4834)  3 years ago

All things have a way of behaving which is different to saying it is a pattern. The fundamental laws determine the behaviour. Decernable patterns are a very different matter.

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