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myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 24 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me 3 years ago

Yeah - that's right. And, it's a school in New Jersey, too. Not only that, but the kid was BORN in Africa (definitely part of what makes one African, don't you think?) and is a US citizen (something that legally qualifies him to be an American, do you not agree?)

Well, it seems some of his fellow students and not a few of the college staff and faculty told him he could not identify himself this way. People put up posters around campus making fun of him, he was verbally harassed, assaulted and his car vandalized. Yet, HE was suspended for "conduct unbecoming a student"!?!!?! WTF????

http://www.philly.com/phi...

I know that racial identities are sensitive to many, but like it or not, Africa is not all Black, even if they are the majority. So, why does being African American HAVE to mean Black? Even Jamaicans don't want to be so identified. They will say they are Jamaican, not African American, because of where they were born - not where their ancestors came from. So, why is it so wrong for a White kid to so identify. Shouldn't he be proud to be from Africa even as he is proud to be an American citizen? How do you feel about his suing on the basis of discrimination?

Is it just me? Or is this something that has gone too far and needs to be reigned in? Isn't this what some of this PC identifying can bring on? And, I'm not knocking legitimate PC issues.

Which brings on another questions that is kind of sidebar related.....if it's not OK for Hispanics to fly the flags of their countries of origin (and I don't mean after disrespecting ours), why is it OK to drive through a neighbor of predominately Irish or Italian descent and see only Irish or Italian flags flying? At least the Hispanics were BORN in the country of that flag. These other groups have been here multiple generations, yet they don't fly the US flag - only their ancestral country flag. So, has this racial/cultural identity idea possibly gone too far?

(Just so you understand - I do NOT want to see the loss of culture! Every culture is special and transmits history on to the next generation. I just want to see the elimination of divisiveness. No one group OWNS a national or continental heritage.)

 

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1. myLot reputation of 48/100. iriscot (792)   ranked 108 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

There are a lot of cruel persons in this world and such harassement is just one case. It's a shame, but it starts in the lower grades, particularly about the clothing that some wear because their parents can't afford to dress their children like the so called "upper class".

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24688)   3 years ago

I think he probably has a good case there. I don't understand WHY people don't want to just consider themselves "Americans" they were born here, their parents were born here. Heck, their ancestors were offered a chance to return to Africa to a place called Liberia and they chose not to return. Why? because they knew that this place had a better chance of their becoming something more than they would be in Africa.

if these - so called "African-Americans" want to be "African" so badly, they should go back!


myLot reputation of 91/100. BishounenNerd (249)   ranked 55 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

I think you're missing the point... They call themselves African American because they live in America, but they are of African descent. That's what makes them African. In the same sense, I could be called "Italian American"!


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24688)  3 years ago

No, I'm not missing the POINT!

The POINT is they live in AMERICA, the U.S.A., not Canada, NOT Mexico - would they still call themselves African Americans in Canada? NO, maybe African-Canadians, but... I doubt it.

So, Frigging WHAT? My ancestors came from Germany, Ireland, England, Scotland - but what SHOULD I CALL MYSELF??? a German/Irish/English/Scot-American? No, I call myself an AMERICAN! I consider myself a citizen of the United States. Now, I have as much right to call myself an American as a citizen of Brazil or Cuba does, but we don't seem to have a designation for U.S. citizens, we presume to call ourselves something as inclusive as "Americans."

If they want to call themselves "AFRICANS" they can go back to that poor continant with all their racial strive, their hatreds for each other, their diseases, their AIDS epidemic. If they want to be "AMERICANS" then they should become color blind - but I don't see that happening. Why are light colored members considered better and more beautiful than their darker cousins in their communities? They are the worst about crime on each other, I lived in a black neighborhood for 4 years and the black on black crime was much worse than the black on white crime. Heck, the burglers PRACTICED on their NEIGHBORS before they got promoted to the white neighborhood! So, who do you think got robbed more? The neighbors!

They NEED to stop blaming everything on COLOR and get down to living right, stop sleeping around having babies they can't take care of, stop victumizing their neighbors and start being good citizens.


myLot reputation of 93/100. hornetlover (2633)  3 years ago

Hmmm.. that makes sense, Elic. I am a Filipina in America so I can call myself a Fil-Am. I have always wanted to be that way. I lovee my country but I always have this love for America. Yeah!thumbup


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24688)  3 years ago

And like the student, you were born in the Philippines, so you should be able to call yourself a Fil-American (since you are married to an American.) Are you planning to become a U.S. citizen?

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 230 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

Charlize Theron is a proud Africana and she's white, but i presume people haven't checked their Geography lessons lately or they wouldn't have made an issue of this..
Same issue of children born of one black and one white parent..they are expected to say they are black even if they are like Peggy Lipton's daughters..


myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 147 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

Well blow me down woman, where HAVE you been. Some of us were ready to send out the Mounties! SOOOOOOO good to see you! You've been so missed I had to bake a batch of brownies myself! Yech!


myLot reputation of 92/100. beautyqueen26 (34377)  3 years ago

Hi RoseKitty! So good to see you back on Mylot.

I've noticed that before, too. Seems that people
want to classify others by the color of their skin;
pigeon hole them into a nice little category.
Or, they expect the person to classify themselves
by the color of their skin.

It's preschool all over again.

However, a person wants to be identified is fine with me.

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4. myLot reputation of 91/100. BishounenNerd (249)   ranked 55 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

He is right. He is African American. I would say it's because our culture is brainwashed into thinking that a person who is black is automatically African American, when they could be Jamaican. In the same sense, people automatically assume people who are white are automatically "Caucasian", whatever that's supposed to mean... So then this guy comes along and says, "I'm African American". Somehow, everyone is panicking because this guy broke their idea of what is considered normal. It's like this story I heard:

These guys are living in a cave, and they've been there for all their life. One day, one guy walks outside of the cave, and he finds grass and sky and all this other stuff. So he goes back to the cave to tell them about what he saw, but everyone thinks he's crazy, because they've never seen it, so they criticize him for it.

What's happening in the dental college is exactly like what happened in that story. What irks me the most about this, though, is that it's coming from a COLLEGE! Aren't professors and students supposed to be... You know... Smarter than that?


tayy20 (6)  3 years ago

he can only call himself african american if he is of african decent...some people look white but they actually have black decent in their family...but if he is just plain ole white then its unacceptable


myLot reputation of 91/100. BishounenNerd (249)   ranked 55 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

Well, he was from Africa, so he should not have gotten in trouble for it. I mean, if they really had that much of a problem saying he was African American, then they should at least figured out if he was lying instead of just assuming he was... Besides, people put too much importance in skin color, anyway. It's just melanin.


myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 114 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what we know as Jamaicans were originally slaves from Africa. Still, as I said in my post being from that country they have every right to call themselves Jamaican.

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5. myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 147 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

Frankly I think this PC baloney has gone far enough. I'm sick to death of bleeding heart liberals screwing with our value systems and allowing free reign to people who haven't got the sense God gave a goat or even the RIGHT to dictate to the majority about what's 'correct' and what isn't. I don't care if you are green, brown, black or blue, what country you come from or what flag you choose to fly in YOUR OWN YARD, or what your cultural background is. All I care about is that you remember we are ALL human with the same need to be accepted, respected and loved and as long as you show me those qualities, I'll go to the wall for you!


myLot reputation of 91/100. BishounenNerd (249)   ranked 55 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

AMEN! You couldn't have said it any better!

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6. myLot reputation of 76/100. marcialoyd (1078)   3 years ago

That is so sad. If he was born in Africa and he is an American then yes he is definitely an african american reguardless of the color of his skin. I hope he wins his suit. I don't see anything wrong with people flying their own countries flag in america but they should fly an american flag right next to it. There is nothing wrong with remembering their heritage and where they are from. Now in cases i've seen where they fly their own flag and then fly the american flag upside down next to their own countries flag on American soil. It is then that I have a problem.

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7. myLot reputation of 84/100. lyzabelle (1654)   3 years ago

This is not right. Of course this world is getting crazier
everyday. If only people will be more understanding,more kind
and more loving, we can definitely live a peaceful world. But
as the saying goes...we don't act and talk the same...means only
one thing, differences will prevail. Sad but true.sadsadsad

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (11395)   ranked 76 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

if he's from there,he should be able to call himself that if he wants to.
you'd be amazed how many people don't know there's a diverse population over there.
you'd think at least ONE person on the staff would know though.

yea,he should sue them.they're being ignorant and terrorizing him.
ten to one suing won't make the problem any better for him though..

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9. myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 114 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me   3 years ago

Blacks in England consider themselves British. As is only right as they were born there. When they visit America they identify themselves as British. If this kid was born in Africa he has every right to call himself African American.
If I want to identify myself as Irish American no one is going to make a fuss.

I think he needs to sue. Just on the basis of suspending him over the issue. Let's see if the ACLU does something worthwhile for a change.

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10. myLot reputation of 73/100. tundeemma (857)   3 years ago

this is a real nasty situation, why would a student be harrassed because he called himself a black american, what if he called himself a caucasian will he be punished like this, it is time this racial discrimination is put to an end or should we wait till Obama is assassinated before we voice out? it is bsolutely unacceptable


myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 24 out of 685 in ranting about things which annoy me  3 years ago

He didn't call himself a black American. He identified himself as a white African American. The point is the people think being African means black when it obviously doesn't.

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