Would you ever hit a.... CHILD???  |
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Here is this incident which urges me to start this discussion. There is this cute little three year old girl who is our neighbor. She goes to a pre-school in our locality. The teacher there is reputed to be a brash woman. She is very strict on her young students.
This little cutie often comes to our house and we kind of babysit her. She is such a love. And one day we noticed that she has a sore knee. Upon coaxing her to tell us what happened there, she in her child voice told us that the teacher hit her with a wooden scale. I was infuriated. The young angel is so very cute that I wonder how could ever a person use their hands on such a love.
I am not a parent yet, so maybe I am wrong but I am dead against hitting any person especially a child. I would never never never do that. A child can at times be a bit mischievous and maybe a bit too naughty but they are meant to be loved and only loved.
If you are a parent then would you be honest to share that do you beat your child at some stage? And to all those guys who aren't a parent yet or are not married, would you ever hit a child and could justify it?
Please do share your views on it.
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| 11. akuma123 (6) | 8 months ago | i don't have any children but hitting a child is very wrong especially from some teacher. i know children can get crazy but abuse is not the solution but a simple spanking like on the butt is alright.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Yes thats it. Hitting a child is an abuse. One should never do it.
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| 12. Canowyrms (39) | 8 months ago | Hitting your child goes farther than just hurting them. It can leave emotional scars that can take a lot of therapy to heal. Hitting a child, whether it be yours or someone elses is completely wrong. I am completely against it.
Teachers are supposed to be able to tolerate the young ones they work with. If that teacher can not handle how a child acts, they should not be teaching (at least that at that level.). No matter how bad things are going in your life, when you are a teacher, you are in a different place, and with different people. Work and personal life are completely different things and should never interact. Perhaps report that to the police, or the board of education in your district.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | I had gone to the teacher's place and told her not to do it again. She was a but abusive and told if she was my child. Things are a bit different out here. I guess the child won't be going to that school from this year onwards.
Yes hitting a child do leave permanent damages like emotional disturbances and so on. It amuses me how some people try to justify their acts of violence on child by saying they are just discipling them. Pathetic.
A child could always be taught to be humane by love.
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| Canowyrms (39) | 8 months ago | That is no excuse to ever harm a child. Children learn to be violent that way. They learn how to take their anger out that way. It is good that you took that child out of that school. Hitting a child is hitting a child, no matter where it is. It is not the right thing to do. Children are more likely to learn through moral lessons I feel.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | HI, Yes a child is like a fine clay, they will mould into human beings the way they are brought up. You have said it right if they are taught to take out their frustrations and anger in the form of voilence then that is what they are learning. And it is a wrong thing to learn.
Thanks for your concern.
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13. angelajoy (983) | 8 months ago | I used to slap my niece's hands when she's having tantrums or bullying other children. But not a really hard slap, just hard enough to let her know that what she's doing is wrong. It doesn't really hurt her physically, more of emotionally because she knows that I'm mad at her. Slapping is common here in my country, but I really try to avoid it if I can. I don't want her to grow up a bully. I did what I did out of love. I'm like a second parent to her because her parents used to leave her with me often. Now that she's a little bit older I don't slap her anymore because she listens now when I tell her that what she's doing is wrong. We have a good relationship and I'm really proud of what she has become.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | I am so happy that the child is influenced by you and turned out to be a good kid. Yes even if you are a bit stern in your actions in order to develop a child to be a good human being love is the essence. As you said even if you have had slapped on her hands there was love in it. Thats the thing, thats what makes a child to be a great human being.
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14. tuckersheri (681) | 8 months ago | No I would never hit a child I would yell at them and tell them what they did wrong. Or put them in timeout. I would never put my hand on them too many people call it abuse and if you left a bruse it would raise too many questions these days. I don't believe hurting someone to mind is a good thing there are better alternitaves out there to use to get your kids to mind. You could even make incentives and rewards if they mind. It should never come down to hitting or hurtting your child.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Yup hitting a child is an ABUSE. But most teachers here don't get this simple thing. They kind of get satisfaction by slapping or hurting a child. in my view it is a criminal offense. Thanks for sharing your view.
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15. queennee (148) | 8 months ago | three year old kids are very hard headed,stubborn and attention seeker,that's what i observe of my daughter now.they say that's common in their age,but it will change as they reach 4 yr.old.her behavior sometimes irritates me and make me angry.i dont deny that i spank her or hit her but not that very hard that she cant bare it.we have to spank them sometimes to instill in their minds that what they do is wrong,its a way of descipline.but not to hit the child like wer'e gonna kill them or for the sake of hurting them.yes, its true that what they need most is our love and care,that's what matters most to them.children are like angels,my kids are my happiness ever..good day!:)
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | You need to see this kid by yourself. She is such a cutie. When i say that she is an angel I mean every single word of it. No two kids are similar, this child of whom I am talking is neither stubborn nor a nuisance creator. maybe she didn't recite the poem which she was asked to do in her home.
I hate this teacher who could dare to hit a love like her.
Thanks for your insight, it is appreciated. You have a great day too.
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| 16. azlin_04 (55) | 8 months ago | Hello!!
To me, hitting is cruel. Spanking a child when she/he done something wrong is ok but at the end, we as adult need to talk to them and explain back why we need to spank them...and not just leave the problem open.
Children have feeling too...sometimes we cannot understand them as they also cannot understand us adult. Spanking or slapping ( in some country) is needed when we raise a child in order to disipline and shape them to be a better person...but to me different children need a different way to shape them...
Example: my older son is ADHA -a very hiperactif child...I need a lot of Patient to hold my temper when dealing with him...more to talking than spanking you know. To me hitting is never going to solve any problem facing by the child. We need to hear them and not see them only......
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | When a child misbehaves or is being that extra naughty that is because he/ she carves for your undivided attention. We as adults have many ongoing thought processes going on at the same time. Then there are a lots of issues which we deal with in our everyday life. Then it so happens that we sort of ignore the child's needs. We simply don't have the time to listen up to them. Thats when we tend to hit a child, I believe and I strongly do that a child can be won over by unselfish love. Hope your son turns out to be a great individual.
Have a great time.
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17. jazel_juan (1521) | 8 months ago | I am a parent of two kids and i do discipline my kids and at times where they get out of hand i do spank them but..only in one place. the B*TT. its less painful there plus i only spank them for disciplining and they will learn a lesson. Beating is so much different in spanking their b*tts. Plus a teacher nor a baby sitter has no right to spank them either!! i love my kids and no one has the right to spank them or hurt them.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Yup nobody has the right to hurt or spank a kid. At times a parent has to use that resource as last alternative, but I am yet to experience that kind of a situation. Thanks for responding.:-))
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18. chookie1971 (1557) | 8 months ago | At school when I was growing up, only a principle or a deputy principle were allowed to use a stick we called the cane. It was only applied to the hand.
Children these days at school don't even know what a cane was.
I have never hit another person's child. I have not had the need to hit other children. They behave or they don't come back. Simple rule there. But I have hit my children on 1 of 2 places. On the bottom/thigh or the back of the hand. When I have hit them, it has been for punishment and done out of love. My children always have had the choice. I prefer to send them to their rooms, but if they don't go their other choice of punishment is a smack.
It was couple of weeks ago my youngest asked for something. I said no. She start to whinge. I told her to stop whinging and that what she wanted, we had all weekend to do it. She still kept on whinging. I asked her to stop whinging. But she just got louder and louder. I started to ground her to stop her from going over to her friends place. It just got worse. I got to 2 months grounding and then decided to send her to her room. She refused to go and whinged even more. In a firm voice, I said that is it, 12 months grounding and go to your room. She still refused. I got up, pointing to her room and told her that she can choose between a smack or her room. She ended up getting a smack on her bottom. She got up, crying all the way to her room. She then decided to bash a few things around. Then to my suprise, she started cleaning her room without being asked.
I just didn't know what to do. She was trying to walk all over me, saying that she didn't care in between her whinging. I needed to do something that she did care about. I was firm with her but never smacked her out of anger. I smacked her because I love her.
I will also admit, that there was one time when she was alot younger, she got my temper going. I was getting angry this day. I went to smack her for something she had done. I stopped, I started crying and I sent myself to my room. I even slammed the door closed and my girl started to howl. If I had smacked her this particular day, I would not have stopped. I would have classed this as child abuse. I was so angry, so I had to punish myself for getting angry. I didn't keep calm and under control.
I refuse to smack when I am angry and out of control.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Look friend I am not prying but it seems that you are under stress and that resulted in the kind of situations you just mentioned. May I ask how old your daughter is? Sometimes SOME kids have problems while growing up. Like maybe they have noticed that you are depressed or there maybe some other tough issues you are dealing with. A child understands that his/ her loved one is in a kind of trouble. But since they can't do a thing about it they sort of resent. They notice that they aren't getting your full attention, so they would come up with nouvel ways to catch your attention.
I think being a bit diplomatic would help your child.
by the way I want to tell this thing to you and it comes from the bottom of my heart that you seem to be sorry to, for being bit harsh on your kid. To \love your child is important, but you need to understand them too.
As adults we face may a situations in our every day life causing to lose our temper, but we cannot let it to be a hindrance to bring up our child.
Hope I was not getting too personal, forgive me if I was. Thanks
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chookie1971 (1557) | 8 months ago | You did mention that you are not a parent. You will not fully understand until you have a child of your own.
As my father have said to me when I was growing up, you are not truely born until you have a child of your own. He also said to me that I will never understand what it means to be a parent. With me going through it twice now, I fully understand what he means.
Ok, I want to ask you, how do handle the situation when you want a child to take a shower, but she refuses to. She want her big brother to take a shower first. But the big brother wants little sister to have a shower first. It is a stale mate between the 2 of them. What would you do? How would you get your youngest one to take a shower when she is fighting and arguing with you?
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | You truly said it that i am not a parent yet, so I don't probably know what it takes to be one. The situation you mentioned is not that uncommon. My younger brother was very naughty in his young days and this particular incident you mentioned makes me remeber those days.
As I was elder I was the one to act responsibly and had to do it upon the insistence of my younger sibling. Then my mom would keep on saying that look at your brother he has already done it now its your turn and would compel him to do. He would whine but eventually he has to, otherwise mom would threaten that you won't have your lunch if you aren't bathed.
I think any issue with a child is not a stalemate. Things can be worked out. But still I guess it is easier said than done.
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chookie1971 (1557) | 8 months ago | You have got it in one. It is certainly not easy.
I try my best to bring the best out of my children. I do reward my children when they have done good. I spoil them rotten with lots of love. Especially when they have done good.
There are alot of good times and then there are alot of bad times. It is a real roller coaster ride. I cherish the good times and praise my children.
If I do compare my children to others I have seen around, one thing I can say, I am proud of my children. They are very well behaved regardless of the bad times. I hope that I can only raise them the best possible way and hope that they will do well in their future.
You will certainly understand what I am saying when you have children of your own. It won't be easy but I am sure that you will do your best. There will be alot of good times, and bad times. But it will be the good times that will wipe away the bad times.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Thats more like you I guess. You sound a bit more relaxed now. Surely I don't have any whatsoever experience of how to handle children, and I completely agree that it must be some task. Could I suggest you one thing.
Don't be too judgmental about yourself, since you are a good person your kids would be great too. You have already said it that your kids makes you proud then thats it. Have a great time parenting.
Cheers. Bodhi
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chookie1971 (1557) | 8 months ago | Thank you. That really means alot to me.
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19. Pinkon4u (2160) | 8 months ago | I wouldn't say "never" -- there's some very strange situations which come up in life sometimes, and binding yourself to a hard-and-fast rule isn't wise: we all need to adapt and respond to situations that are unusual.
But as a regular practice for discipline, I'm opposed to any form of violence.
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Yup violence in any form is detrimental, and on a child is criminal. Thank you for responding.
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20. divkris (794) | 8 months ago | If a kid is being mischevious then he/she has learnt it from you, me and other adults. Children are like clays and we as parents, siblings, peers, member of the society model them to be what they are. They are not the sole things to be blamed.
To me children are like mirrors. When they see someone do something (good or bad) they think that is how things are done. So they simply redo what they have seen a grwon person doing. If they are arrogant to you - then it is simple - you can see yourself in that kid. If you are unruly you can see that in your kid.
So, Beating a kid means beating yourself!
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | It is true and amazingly correct, to beat a kid is beating yourself.
Although I have something to say of what you posted here. I agree that a kid does the things which he looks and observes around him, but then there are exceptions too. A kid can be remarkably good in a very unhealthy environment and could be notoriously bad in a very good family, but as iI said these are exceptional cases.
Thanks a lot for your view, I loved your perception on the subject.
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divkris (794) | 8 months ago | well to add to your comment - there are exceptional cases; yes there may be. to me if there is a good kid amidst a bad environment then the kid is trying to reflct something good about that bad environment. Good and bad complement each other and where there is goo there is bad too and vice versa! So if a kid is notorious (well i'm not talking about adults here at all) that means someone or some element in that environment is triggering the act in the kid. The challenge is to find the element and to erase it.
Well if you have read "The Kite Runner" you would have found this bullying kid called Assef have been torturing other kids all the way long and has grown up into a saddist adult. Well, i just have a question to ask were the parents not awareof thier kids behavior - or probably one of the parent (or other family member) had a similar habit that was prominently exhibitted by this kid!
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bodhisatya (538) | 8 months ago | Hmmm I had a similar incident, infact a story of a kid in my mind while I was responding to the post. There was this kid you know who from a very young age starts to kill the neighbor's pets, and eventually he kills every body in his family, It is startling how thin gs can turn out to be. Maybe his father was a bit harsh on the kid, as far as I could comprehend the plot.
Thanks again.
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