This is a clear case of a professor forcing his beliefs on his students
By tjades
@tjades (3590)
Jamaica
May 29, 2009 8:33pm CST
Recently I assisted a co-worker of mine in formulating an essay where she was to argue about evolution and creation.
We came up with I would call a great essay supporting creation. She came back some days later to say she had been given no grade for her essay and given a set time to redo it if she wanted a grade.
The professor's reason for giving her a zero is that she was forcing her beliefs down others throats....
... Now I was in a state of amusement and disbelief at the same time.
How can you be given an assignment to chose sides and then be told that you are forcing your views on others because you chose the side of the debate which offends your tutor. We asked if she was going to fight the professor's actions but she says she was advised by other students it would not be worth her while.
It was a common practice for science professors in that department to behave in that manner and give low grades to those students who dared to oppose their views. As far as the students seem to be concerned they just write a paper telling them (the professors) what they want to hear and get through the course.
Now that makes me mad. I have seen the student's guild protest and take a stance against various stuff at the university and I believe this should be one of them. A professor who is so phased by a student's paper which opposes his view ought not to be in that position.
How would you respond if this happened to you in your course of study?
Would you just let it go as well and ensure you make it through the course?
I should mention that her rewritten essay was given a 70+ grade.
I think that is just wrong and insane. How about you?
... Now I was in a state of amusement and disbelief at the same time.
How can you be given an assignment to chose sides and then be told that you are forcing your views on others because you chose the side of the debate which offends your tutor. We asked if she was going to fight the professor's actions but she says she was advised by other students it would not be worth her while.
It was a common practice for science professors in that department to behave in that manner and give low grades to those students who dared to oppose their views. As far as the students seem to be concerned they just write a paper telling them (the professors) what they want to hear and get through the course.
Now that makes me mad. I have seen the student's guild protest and take a stance against various stuff at the university and I believe this should be one of them. A professor who is so phased by a student's paper which opposes his view ought not to be in that position.
How would you respond if this happened to you in your course of study?
Would you just let it go as well and ensure you make it through the course?
I should mention that her rewritten essay was given a 70+ grade.
I think that is just wrong and insane. How about you?3 people like this
3 responses
@dreamr802 (985)
• United States
30 May 09
I had something like that happen to me when I was in college! I went to a Christian college but I support a mix of evolution/creation. We had to do a paper for the theology class that we HAD to take. So I explained my view in my 5 page paper and whatnot and I got a 60. I know my paper was written very well and there was no reason to get a D. I brought it to my teacher's attention and he said that nothing was backed up and it was just me making stuff up when I actually had quotes from books and whatnot. So I went to the dean of the school of theology and he told me that the grade he would've given me was an 80 and he explained why and that made sense. Since I went to the dean of the school my grade was officially changed. We only had the papers for our midterm and final. So when the final rolled around the teacher realized he would have to grade me fairly because I wasn't scared to go to the dean.
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@lisan23 (442)
• United States
30 May 09
It doesn't get any better once she gets into the real world. That's unfortunately how things work. I've had to lie about my religion to get apartments, jobs, and promotions. I live in a predominantly Christian area and am agnostic. I would have been passed up for a lot of things if I told the truth about what I believe. It's unfortunate, but that's just how the world works.
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@tjades (3590)
• Jamaica
30 May 09
Thats true too. There is so much discrimination all around us. Once someone is not like us we discriminate. Just cant have a big heart to accept others and respect their views and ways of life.
Even for me...acceptance comes only once I am convinced your practices or beliefs will not cause harm to me and my loved ones. Once that person does not seek to impose their beliefs and practices upon me thats cool. Once thats settled, then the world is big enough for all of us to exist.
I think that is the natural reaction of each person. Believe what you may and we can debate our beliefs in an acceptable manner. Just do not impose your self upon me. That science teacher is guilty of the same intolerance he would accuse creationist of having.
@crysontherocks77 (1273)
• United States
30 May 09
i was faced with the same problem. My science teacher in elementary wanted to explain on a test question how the land got divided and became the countries we have today known as continents. Anyways, I explained that my belief was that it happened when God brought the big flood and flooded everything and that after the eart shakes and the rain susbsided that was how the continents were formed. I got the answer marked wrong for answering it the way i believed it happened. My mom went in a talked to the teacher and when I explained why I thought that way she still stated that I needed to put the answer down that had been discussed earlier in class on the subject to get the answer right. Grant the teach had grounds to give me a o for the answer but I think she was trying to force her belief which wasn't really a belief just what other people thought happened and I trully believe maybe the idea was outrageous at a time but I still think something like that was possible. I mean come on it didn't rain where noah was ever and then all of a sudden it rains for fourty days and God is the one controlling everything on where the water goes to seperate the land and what not. I think she should fight now that the paper has been written. Another thing is, they didn't want her to pick the creation part they shouldn't have give her a choice. That's a cheesy professor in my eyes. Debate is all about having facts on both sides. So he's clearly not been informed of the other possibilities of what could have happened. Just like I used to not believe in the big bang theory but after researching it I now think something like that could have been possible. I just don't think a teacher has a right to force opinions if they themselves have not come up with enough evidence to prove it doesn't exist.
@tjades (3590)
• Jamaica
30 May 09
You know Rocks...the funny thing is that many of these theorist came up with some whack ideas which were tested and proven in some instances (there's a little truth is many of these theories). If they were slammed and forced to just accept creation their theories may have not gooten as far as they have.
Many cry of oppression and being force to accept others views while they do the very same forcing their beliefs on others.
Many teachers sadly have not learnt the art of being open and accommodating to a childs thought process and the need to express their own formulated ideas even if it is way off.




