Have you read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged?

I have not read the book, but it was highly recommended to me by others. I understand it is about economics and capitalism. Not knowing exactly what the book says..I don't know if it is full of greed and cynicism. I do know that the movtivation of capitalists is to gain more, and make more. The economy dies when you take away the motivation to gain. If I didn't get a pay check...would I go to work? I also know, I cannot help others if I have to constantly be struggling to stay alive and help myself. So capitalism enables those who are altruistic to practice charity.

I definately will find a way to get this book and read it. Thanks for your input.

I think you're really going to love it!

The liberals would tell you that we can't legislate morality....and they're right. But...they sure love to tell us what our values SHOULD be. And then bash the conservative right for asking for a return to Judeo-Christian values.

It's the old adage: when you are ahead, stay ahead. They're running the show, Debra. I don't if we should call them liberals or atheists. I don't believe in a devil, per se, despite my reference to one. I believe in spirit of evil which seeks to curtail and control this feisty bunch of non-conformists. They want us to get with the program, but the problem is that there is no program other than our subsequent dismissal from the game. We just don't want to give up. In fact, we keep thinking we're going to win in bringing this country back to the fold.

Hail ye! All those who live for justice, righteousness, and truth! Make a way in the wilderness for the Man of God who brings the towers down, and makes the high places low. That makes mercy our banner, and not force. For their god is the god of forces, as my namesake Daniel wrote.

Excellent, excellent post, and I'm glad I got to comment on it. It's time to crack the whip. Get the troops in order, and start marching. The trumpet has blown. Micheal stands up for His people. Victory is ours, as it was from the beginning. Blessings, Dan

As much as I'd like to say that there is hope for returning America to her former glory....I don't see it happening. Those that run the show now...got there because American Christians gave up their birthright. Calling evil good and good evil...we've given up any right to call ourselves a Christian nation.

I do believe we are seeing the beginning of the end.

The devil has but a short time. That's why Obama and his cronies are in such a hurry to get such a flurry of bills past. Have you checked out Americans for Prosperity? Tim Phillips is organizing rallies all over the nation, and utilizing e-mails and the internet to fight fire with fire. It's looks almost fun, and I'll be glad when they get to South Texas. But, they are rallying against all of these socialist bills which are being passed.

I admire those who can do such things. My 'calling' lol I feel, is to get people to wake up to the idea that there is a NEED to fight back.;)

My first stop will be the San Antonio Tea Party. Food, fun, and lots of rowdy talk. And some of the famous ACORN people will be there to check out who all is there, and to faithfully report back to Homeland Security. ACORN, as I understand it, is an agency of the Feds that are doing a census, like the Census Bureau, but invading privacy right and left. We're already beyond the point of needing to fight back - we have to fight back. It's either fight back, or find ourselves way, way up a creek in terms of individual liberties.

The way to fight back is not with violence, but education as to what has taken place in the last few decades since the "revolution" of the sixties. We did not just suddenly become a non-Christian nation, a police state, and essentially communist. We did not just suddenly find ourselves ruled by an ogliarchy with Obama as the "new messiah", Pelosi and Reid and a hoarde of people in the administration hailing him. This was planned and orchestrated by an elite group of families, more or less, that intend on remaining in power - even if it means, which it will - the destruction of the very country where they got so stinking rich. Once Americans wake up - and they are waking up - to the insidious nature of the shadow government, then they will find the means to fight back, and there are many.

To name but a few: websites, chat, twitter, cell phone conversations, strikes, misinformation for the government, tax avoidance, hidden assets, etc. When it comes to resisting a tyrannical form of government, there is nobody on this planet better than ordinary Americans. Freedom is simply too ingrained in our history and our culture to allow a government to take our choices away. We have a choice, and in this case, it is to resist government interference in our lives, in our businesses, and in our faith.

So, are we just doomed? Will we have to go hide in the mountains and stock up on food and medicine just to live? What a horrible thing for my grandbabies...to live under tyranny or live as an animal in a cave.

Dear Debra,

You are looking at the telescope through the wrong end. The point is not to make things smaller but bigger. It is in every little thing we do and say that we make changes for the better. Of course, a turnaround of any kind is never easy. It's going to be a long, hard fight to bring this country back to its former glory as the most upstanding, morally correct, and self-evaluating nation on earth. That fight is against the users and the abusers. The users have robbed us, by their very incessant need to serve themselves. We all seek to serve ourselves, and that's OK. But, some people just don't know when to stop. They don't have self-imposed limitations, they don't know when enough is enough, and they don't restrain themselves when things are clearly not going right. Keep those printing presses running, until this "problem" goes away. Those are the users.

The abusers, on the other hand, go way beyond merely costing us because they have to have their stuff, whatever it is. They seek to profit from the trade itself in human flesh. For with every hit of crack, or every fix of heroin, or every pill taken to "calm my nerves", we die slowly but surely. The abusers are not those who take illegal drugs, or legal drugs in excess - it is those who use this obvious need to their advantage. Like Steppenwolf put it, "Goddam* the pusher man". And in some cases, maybe we die way before our time.

Debra, I want you to comment on my post, "Who or What is the Snake?" Of course, the "abusers" as I call them, translates to what we're experiencing as Christians in the new millineum.

Bless you, and may you be prosperous in everything you put your hand to, Dan

will look for it.:)

Thanks ..and I am as we type...searching Amazon for a deal on it.:)

Great! I'm sure you'll enjoy it! I'll start reading The Fountainhead as soon as I'm done with Atlas Shrugged. I can only hope that it's as well written and interesting. Have a nice day. Hopefully youll find the book on 70% sale!:-)

Oh...did Ayn Rand write more than one book? The Fountainhead...what is that one about? Gosh, I'm gonna have to stay off the computer for awhile and get more reading done.

That is why I'm interested in them, the times we live in. I read George Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984 in high school...and just recently re read them.

Oh, I love George Orwell. 1984 deserves to be called a master piece, but I think that the Animal Farm is even better, if that's even possible. It's scary how much of 1984 that actually has come true... I believe it's time we did something. The world isn't going to change itself, but demonstrations don't seem to work. Anyone know some other way of changing the society without use of violence? I'm getting paranoid when I'm downtown, cause there's literally cameras EVERYWHERE!

I do not know how to change the world except one person at a time...I believe that we are in the beginings of the end times. That is a whole 'nother discussion.

If you change yourself and share what you know to be the truth...with those who care to listen...perhaps when it does all come down to the big ultimatum...you will stand without fear.

I have so much reading to catch up with ....I haven't read the book yet. I am still planning on it. Perhaps on a cold winter's day.