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myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing5 months ago

As many Ciao review members knows, as of July 1st, the Ciao review site is to be no more...for the past week I've been copying my reviews (have 134) so I can submit them to Associated Content for page views only since technically speaking my reviews were published previously...so can't submit them as upfront payment.

I have a question for Helium, Gather and any other writing sites...I do belong to Helium and Gather but haven't done anything with either for awhile...BUT...was wondering, can one place previously published work there as well? Are their any other sites I can submit previously published work???

 
 
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tags:  ciao, writing sites, helium, gather, previously published work
 
1. myLot reputation of 97/100. lynnemg (3570)   ranked 1,032 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I know that it can be done on Helium. You have a good idea there, I hadn't even thought to submit them anywhere else.
I don't know about you, but I was not all that happy when I found out that CIAO would be no more. I actually enjoyed that site!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Yes I had enjoyed Ciao myself, but they had way too many problems with plagiarizers which caused it's "demise" sad

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2. myLot reputation of 41/100. cookiecrumbles (229)   ranked 1,348 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I think if you change some of the wording around you might be able to call it new work. Do you think that is possible? I mean like what we write here. Is this writing as in serious writing or is it just nonsense writing? I mean to say it's not what I would call call A writing like you would put in a book and publish and sell a million copies of it or is it? We are only getting paid a penny for this work at best. So how can this be considered real serious writing? The same with ciao? I mean they never paid you more than three cents for anything, so how can that be considered serious work? I don't know how it all works when you are a writer. I have no idea so I am lost that is why I am asking these stupid questions cause I have no idea. But I would think that if you wanted to protect yourself you are doing the right thing by copying all your work before it is gone that's for sure. I have no idea if you can use it again the way it is written word for word. But I would think that if you change it around a bit you can use it again. But I have no idea. Is there some kind of writers guild you can write to and ask that kind of question to?


myLot reputation of 41/100. cookiecrumbles (229)   ranked 1,348 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

One more thing, if you are a serious writer do you think that everything you write like even these blogs and answers no matter how long or short. Do you think you should copy all that work also? I mean like these few short questions I just asked here? Because I am thinking of becoming a serious writer so I am curious? I am thinking that all my words are precious and need to be saved no matter how smart or silly I sound. What do you think?


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

You must have joined Ciao after things went haywire there. When I first joined there, one could make $1.00 per review..if it was a first time review one got a dollar bonus...I made $90 my first month...LOL.
As for "serious" writing here...lol...many of my ideas here that I write about I expand greatly into article ideas. As for changing words around. Not such a simple case..in AC for instance if one submits an article for exclusive up-front payment that's it...it's theirs...even changing a few words here and there would be a violation in their eyes


myLot reputation of 41/100. cookiecrumbles (229)   ranked 1,348 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

You have over ten thousand discussions and posts here at mylot. Say that they were changing and you had to copy all that work what would you do? That is an amazing amount of stuff you have done. Do you copy on a regular basis or just hope that never happens?


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

I don't think I would want to copy all my discussions here..LOL Yikes cause then that would mean not only copying my discussions but all the responses too...that would take forever. Nope, any time I post an article related type discussion here I often expand it into my own article--like I'm thinking of expanding my ideas in my discussion about the Foreclosure Angel...other discussions I've expanded to articles have been say about the fur industry or animal abuse cases. And goodness...I don't think I've done over 10,000 discussions..many of my points are from replying to other discussions---I'll have to check one day to see just how many discussions I have started


myLot reputation of 41/100. cookiecrumbles (229)   ranked 1,348 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

I see it says you are ranked 1. That is some kind of honor isn't it! And hey how did you pick your name?


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

LOL--I didn't realized I was ranked #1 for the writing interest until you mentioned it. Before I got my own computer I was relying on the library computers. When I needed a user name I wanted to pick something I'd remember, so picked pyewacket....after my black cat Pyewacket..that's his picture in my avatar.


myLot reputation of 98/100. byfaithonly (6299)   ranked 1 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

There are a lot of 'serious' writers here on mylot but I don't think any consider this serious - until someone plagerizes a discussion or response then look out.

LOL pye I knew you were #1 in writing think you have been for some time now I know a few weeks ago I was surprised to see I was #4 sure there's no way I'll ever be #1:)

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. hornetlover (2587)   ranked 1,062 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

Hello, pye! That is also my question? If we are going to resubmit or submit our reviews at ciao, they might thought (other sites) that we are plagiarizing? Kinda confusing, right? Can you please tell me about AC? I am not so familiar with the site, though I tried to published 1 revs, I did not pushed through it, I cannot submit my articles as upfront... but, is it ok if we submit our ciao reviews? as PPR?


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Many of my articles at AC I put up as exclusive and upfront payment. There are certain articles that don't fit in the upfront payment category and can only be submitted as performance payment (page views)--that would be previously published work (like the reviews at Ciao), memoir types, poems, book and movie reviews although "product" reviews (new ones not ones from Ciao) can be upfront payment
To be on the safe side when I place my previously published work from Ciao I mention it and with a copyright notice and date and indicate that the article appeared at Ciao under my pen-name of pyewacket....I use my real name at AC


myLot reputation of 92/100. hornetlover (2587)   ranked 1,062 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Ah, that is a good idea, pye. Thanks for this, but I am not going to submit them at AC, I don't think they fit in therehappy It needs to be modified first. happy

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4. myLot reputation of 88/100. nishdan01 (2341)   ranked 89 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I know Helium allows it apart from AC. Were your reviews so long as 400 words? I have not tried CIAO. Helium needs 400 word articles and you need to modify your reviews if it is less than 400 words.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

LOL--my reviews at Ciao often were more than 800 words...so no problem about length... lol

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. irishmist (2381)   ranked 851 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I just got done copying my reviews from ciao yesterday. I'm at Helium to but don't really care for it, since they changed what categories they do and don't pay for. And making money there is mad slow, unless you spend all your time on that site.
At the moment I don't know of any other sites wish I did. Stay away from reviewstream though. I hear they are bad. Are you still at compareby you?
I still have to get my reviews from there, even though there are only 3 I think.


myLot reputation of 98/100. irishmist (2381)   ranked 851 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

a second thought here, perhaps we should contact ciao and ask what will happen to our reviews and where they will go, and if anyone will ever see them again anywhere on the web, and if it is safe to repost our origanal reviews. That way we will know where we stand.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

I just finished copying all my work at Ciao too..had 134 reviews (sheesh) I belong to Helium as well and don't understand how it works now either...LOL--shows you how inactive I've been there. As I mentioned elsewhere...as far as reposting reviews from Ciao to AC I place a copyright notice, date it was first published and indicate that the article/review was published at Ciao under my pen-name of pyewacket..I use my real name at AC---Kaitlin of Ciao actually told me this a long time ago to do that so no one could accuse me of plagiarizing (even though it's my own work) I know about reviewstream and heard horror stories about them. CPU has turned out to be a disappointment too...they've change their rules so much and I'm only $2.00 away from payment but not a chance I can get it nowthumbdown

 
6. myLot reputation of 95/100. tamarafireheart (12440)   ranked 687 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

hi pye,


I haven't a clue about all those sites, but since Ciao is closing, will you be getting paid for all your work that you have put in on that site or have you lost the money? they should pay you in full, good luck in all you do.


Bright Blessings.

Tamara


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

When I first joined Ciao they still paid $1.00 per review...if you reviewed something for the first time you got a $1.00 bonus...I made out like a bandit the first month there earning $90.00 and yes they paid. When they changed the rules to only page view payment it would take me two or months to earn the minimum of $5.00..I don't know if they will now pay what is due all of us this final time though...I have $4.24 due me

 
7. myLot reputation of 97/100. GardenGerty (20151)   ranked 23 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I left Gather, but when I was there people would often put their other material up. Or they would put it on AC then talk about it and link to it. I am not sure if that is still the case, but it could be.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

I would love to re-submit a lot of my Ciao work to as many places as possible...LOL

 
8. myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7301)   ranked 182 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

Oh wow, thanks girl! I didn't know, I rarely go there. I want my recipes. I'll make a note to get those, thanks again, for the heads up! You're a font of useful information.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Yes, a lot of us had posted a lot of our recipes there...I just finished copying all my work at Ciao...134 reviews...sheeshrolleyes

 
9. myLot reputation of 94/100. OreoCookie3 (18124)   ranked 8 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

I know you can for gather... I've done that many times. I've never done it with Helium.. I quit using helium because I'd never get paid. I think I only have $17 after 3 years of being there.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Heck that's good $17 at Helium...I only have about $4.00 there and I've been there a long time toosad


myLot reputation of 98/100. byfaithonly (6299)   ranked 1 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Wow I feel special - 1 year on Helium and I'm at $24.41, now they changed the rule you have to have a rating star to earn, I lost mine for a couple months now I'm pushing my articles on Twitter just to try to reach payout one time:)

 
10. myLot reputation of 77/100. bumba1988 (707)   ranked 1,565 out of 6,380 in writing   5 months ago

Hi pyewacket,I have just came to know about a new site where you can earn money by posting reviews.I have not joined it yet but I have heard that they are paying 2 dollars per review and the minimum payout in the site is 50 dollars.I think you can give it a try.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

I know the place you're talking about and frankly they suck...LOL. Heard a lot of horror stories how people got ripped off therethumbdown


myLot reputation of 77/100. bumba1988 (707)   ranked 1,565 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

Hi pyewacket,It is really shocking to hear this what you are saying.I heard things completely different to this.A lot of people say me that reviewstream is a good site to earn money and the site is genuine.I was thinking of working in the site,thanks for your caution,I will rethink about this.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11545)   ranked 5 out of 6,380 in writing  5 months ago

A few of my friends there (many MyLotters are there too) told me that they wrote scores of reviews and reaching near payout of the $50...all of a sudden they would get a notice that they didn't approve all the reviews and deleted not only the reviews but the person's account--these were honest people writing good reviews---so I just didn't want to chance it that they would do the same to me

 
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