What's The Dress Code That God Wants?  |
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Of course I'm being smart with the subject question but seriously...I'm pissed.
I have a 5 year old son that is going with his father this weekend. Today, actually like 10 minutes ago, I get a call from his father informing me that my son will be attending a Baptism with him on Sunday. (4 day notice) and that I need to send him with dress clothes.
Ummm....grrrrr...
I told him what I have and "that's not good enough" he says....
I do not regularly buy my son all kinds of dress clothes unless I know FOR SURE that we are going somewhere to wear them. I mean, with the way he grows out of clothes, dress clothes are something I would normally buy on an "as needed" basis...and he is leaving with his father Friday and I don't get paid until Saturday and the idiot won't fork over any cash to take his own son shopping...
We don't go to church. Let me just clear that up...so no, I don't have a stock pile of dress clothes for my children. I teach my kids our beliefs on God, etc and teach moral values. I also teach them a little bit of what different religions believe (@ proper age level).
My ex has taken him to church hit or miss and I don't mind. He goes in tan or blue pants and a collared shirt....which is apparently find for that church..
Now..all of the sudden - that's not good enough....not for this church
Now...all of the sudden - it's not appropiate enough for God....not in this church
Apparently God cares about the clothes you wear.
I'm so pissed!!!!
I don't even believe in Baptism....so this is just extra irritating for me. Not trying to slander those who do believe - like I said, I don't mind that he goes and learns about it all as I am about allowing my children to grow - love - learn and make their own decisions based on intelligence and what they feel in their hearts - - -not try to force feed them something and tell them they will burn in hell if they don't believe it.
What is your opinion?
Should someone be turned from a church function because of a "Dress Code"??????? Maybe I should let him go in what he has and if they treat him badly (which apparently I am told will happen - mind you my son is 5! - 5!!!) then he can start to learn about nasty people and their materialistic mindsets. Jerks.
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11. darkjedi1 (752) | 6 months ago | That is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard of. If he wants him to dress up for this stupid event then he should buy him the clothes, not you. After all he is the father and he is the one who says what he usually has isnt good enough. Hell I wouldnt buy it if I was you, he can do it himself. SPecially like you said you dont get paid until saturday. Damn right they shouldnt be force fed this crap at all. Nobody should. At all ever. Hell if a church really was christ like and all that then they wouldnt turn a single person away for anything at all. After all jesus supposedly didnt. The disciples tried and jesus said not to. Hell I would tell the father that he cant go at all.
Pagan and Proud
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | Part of me wanted to tell him he can't go at all...but then again I want my kids exposed to it all. If they had a Jewish friend - great...a Pagan friend - great...Christian friend- great...and so on and so on....
I have beef with Baptisms personally,but I think that for my children to understand my beliefs and to be able to eventually come to their own understanding of this world, they need to be exposed to it all.
Now, if it was my ex trying to Baptise my son - all hell would break free.:)
I WILL NEVER allow my children to be Baptised because they do not have the nothing or the ability to really understand that and how it all works. If my kids grow and become late aged teenagers or adults that want to be Baptised then by all means - go for it. I won't stop them or put them down for it. But by that time they will have been exposed to enough information to be able to make such decisions for themselves....
You had great points! Thanks for your response!
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darkjedi1 (752) | 6 months ago | That is very cool, I love how you think. Yeah I have a problem with baptisms and all that too forced on kids. I think that a kid should learn about all religions and then go how they want later on. Never force it on them, though when I do have kids I will bring them up pagan, but how ever they go when they are adults its up to them.
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12. LovesTravel (215) | 6 months ago | In my opinion, you don't have a problem. Your ex has the problem. It's real simple. If your ex doesn't like the clothes you have for your son, then he will need to provide something more "appropriate." (Sheeesh, the child is 5. Suits are not required. In summer, even kahki shorts and a collered shirt would do.) And if Dad doesn't see fit to buy the child what he thinks is appropriate, then what you already have on hand will have to do. It's his choice--and his problem.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | You're right. My ex is the problem. He is a nut case. Plain and simple. He likes quoting phrases from the Bible and applying them how he sees fit but in the mean time doesn't have a clue as to what the text actually meant.
He for sure won't take my son shopping. I'd bet on it.:)
Thanks for the response!
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| 13. Gangabag (25) | 6 months ago | There are two parts to your issue here - the one regarding the dress code appropriate for a religious ceremony and the issue that you are being asked to pay for something that has been initiated by someone else (your ex-husband).
Regarding the first point, I would feel with quite a high level of confidence, that God really doesn't care what a person wears, certainly not to a baptism ceremony. Of course the brethren who are organizing and participating in the ceremony on the other hand care all the more. I would argue that if someone is participating in such an event, they need to take into consideration what is expected of others, but this should be maintained within reason. The brethren in turn must take into consideration the means of a participant and be flexible in what is acceptable to the occassion.
The second issue is more straightforward. If your ex-husband is the one who wants to take the child to this event, it's his responsibility to ensure that he is dressed accordingly. Why even worry about it? It's not your issue...
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | You're right...he needs to be the one taking him shopping and picking out the clothes. It's his weekend. Why do I have to do everything all of the other days - and on his day's with his son? It's like he can't manage to lift a finger....
thanks for the response!!
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14. barehugs (3856) | 6 months ago | I raised 4 good boys, and none were ever baptized. I think its a medieval, primitive and outmoded practice, and I would have nothing to do with it. As far as God's dress code is concerned, we are created nude, born nude, and God seems to be very contented when we are nude, so why give it any worry at all? As far as the Church is concerned its just a Huge Ancient Scam that has been foisted on mankind since the dark ages, (and before) its High Time people began to think for themselves and stopped allowing the Pope to dictate to them. If you take a moment to think about the church, imagine the money that, that institution has salted away in the Vatican, along with the stolen and priceless articles the church has been collecting for centuries. Please stop worrying about your child, and his dress. The Scam will keep going on and will never miss you, or your child. Just relax and be happy!
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | Thanks! I decided to just send him with what he's got. I mean, what's wrong with kaki pants and a polo shirt? It's nice enough in my eyes and it is what my son is comfortable in.
I too won't Baptise my kids. Not no way - not no how:)
Thanks for the response!
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15. pyarebhai (163) | 6 months ago | myLot friend,Greetings to all. This type of discussion command much deeper insight, only wiseman of that particular religion can able to answer. when answering generally, without insight in that particular important item of religious importance. it is better seek advice of the able person, who have good knowldge in this regard. SEasong greetings and all the best wishes to you all. Thanking you.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | Thanks for the response!
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16. mssnow (4138) | 6 months ago | Since your ex is the father of this child (I assume) Why does he not buy him some clothes to wear to church. That is what i would say to him "If he needs dress clothes that i don't have then you buy him some. He is coming with the clothes I have for him. If he doesn't like it then tough. Your son is his to.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | Yup, he's the father. But a terrible one at that. Two full years went by and he only saw his son twice! He wasn't prevented by the courts - I wasn't in hiding - and he knew where my family was....his excuse? I'm mean.
Well excuse me - he's a drug addict (supposedly in recovery) who hit me while I was pregnant (that's when I left) - who refused to give me a dime for the baby until the courts made him - and who never came around to see his kid. Yes, I was a "not so happy person". I barely get child support so I know he won't take my son shopping - he never has. grrrr.... And you would think that the courts would want to protect the child..but no, they don't.
But wait - suddenly he's a "Christian" now that he is in "recovery" and he thinks that his crap don't stink......
Sorry...that was just a little rant...:)
Thanks for the response!!
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17. whywiki (3100) | 6 months ago | This is just one more reason that I am an atheist...
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | The biggest cause of people turning away from the church is often times the church itself....
Thanks for the response!
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18. chikadee21ph (287) | 6 months ago | The Lord wants us to dress decently when going to church. Unfortunately, people nowadays do not bother as to what clothes they are wearing when going to church. Some use a very short short with plunging neckline. Situation like this makes me sad as those clothes are really inaapropriate.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | I respect your opinion...but I have to say, I think that inappropriate clothing is an idea that is different for everyone. I don't think it should matter what another person is wearing if you are in church to worship your God.
If God is what is on the minds of people in church then they wouldn't have the time to look around to see what everyone else is wearing. Clothes are after all, materialistic things.
People in other countries run around half naked because that is their culture. Does God care about that? And since church is about God and not what society believes, why does the clothes matter?
Thanks for the response!
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19. p1kef1sh (5630) | 6 months ago | I would tell his father to buy your son what is needed. It's his problem, not yours. Personally I feel that God (assuming his existence) couldn't give a rat's patootie about what people wear - his own son wasn't big on dress clothes from what I understand. Folk dress for each other not God. If people are nasty to your son, then that simply goes to prove that they are not a fit group for the likes of a well raised 5 year old and he will quickly learn the truth about churches. It's about the people that visit, not the deity that they pray too in so many places.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | I couldn't agree more. I'm going to let this be a learning experience for my son.
Thanks for the response!
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20. sarahruthbeth22 (10388) | 6 months ago | Well I guess Dad will Have to buy the " correct" clothes won't he? I would be pissed too. I am not a Christian so I just know the phrase Sunday best but I Never had to wear it thank G-d. I always thought that if Christ came down dressed as he was the first time, he would be kicked out of most churches.I don't think G-d really cares. Isn't he the one that created Adam and Eve nude?It is society that makes these rules.
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jennysp8 (579) | 6 months ago | You're so right. And what about the people in countries that run around half naked? Alot of women do not even wear shirts at all. God wouldn't care about that. It is in our society that being naked outside of your bedroom or bathroom is inappropiate.
So therefore, yes, the dress code of churches is all about what other people want others to do, not what God actually wants or what God sees in people.
It's: "give us your money, dress this and that way, and make sure that you condemn non-christians"...
Thanks for the response!!
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