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myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker5 months ago

Some people just accept how things are, and some people will have their own opinions and stand up for them. So do you think it is more moral to obey the given rules, or to stand up for your own thing?

 
 
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tags:  morality, moral, choice, society, status quo
 
1. myLot reputation of 92/100. cmnavarro (130)   ranked 1,894 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

for me, it depends upon the situation... yes, rules are rules... but i believe it doesn't apply to all situations


myLot reputation of 85/100. prashanthalva (1087)   ranked 2,882 out of 3,963 in thinker  5 months ago

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myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

good point

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. crazyoverpurple (2928)   ranked 91 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

I think it's a case-to-case basis. If there was something I believed in and I know for a fact that that belief doesn't contradict anything, then I'd fight for it and stand up for my belief. However, since we are all imperfect, sometimes we tend to make wrong judgment about certain things. That's when things usually go haywire. It could happent that what you think is okay, in reality, is just not. So I think as long as what you believe in doesn't have a major impact on anything - morally, spiritually, mentally, emotionally - you can always fight for it. Understanding which of your beliefs have or doesn't have implications, I think that's what's moral.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

yeah I think that makes sense

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3. pyre82 (87)   ranked 269 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

rules are need to follow. what you stand for is just what you believe in.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

But what if they contradict each other, which do you choose?

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4. myLot reputation of 62/100. lvaldean (937)   ranked 1,626 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

It is situational.

You should always stand up for your beliefs. You should participate in public debate, peaceful protest, elections, and any other "legal" forum that allows you to state your beliefs in a ethical manner and live within your moral framework.

When you see something that is fundamentally wrong with your community you should seek opportunity to "right" it through "legal" means. This would include any of the above. You should speak out when you see wrongs.

There is a however to the above. However, you should not in step on the rights of others in your quest. You should accept that others might not agree with you and you should seek to understand their position. You should evaluate how your ethical standards are applied in the greater scheme of the community or if they should be applied. You should seek to accommodate other positions and try to find common ground.

Another however is always when you put yourself at risk by speaking up. There are a number of situations where this might be true. Work/ employment is one of them and this is a very difficult "situational" dilemma. Each of us must find the balance of what is acceptable and what is not. I have twice find myself working for employers who crossed the line, in each case I spoke up. In one case I became a whistle blower and in another I sued. While on a personal level I remain content with my decision on a professional level these decisions hurt me.

Finally, there are some issues that are frankly personal and don't belong in the public forum. While they are there today and they are all to often at the center of heated debate, they should not be. Personal choice and personal moral evaluation of these issues are just that, personal. The imposition of one persons rights or standards over another persons is morally unconscionable, yet and still, at least in the US we continue down the path of legislating and people continue to believe they have the right to determine the outcome and ethical choices of others based on standards that others don't agree to.

So it is situational, always.

Rules (Laws) are there to protect society. When they are bad they should be challenged. Without challenge to bad laws (rules) we would not have even the small advance we have today. Jim Crow would still be legal, lynching would still be ongoing, inter-racial marriage would still be against the law, and a host of other truly immoral laws would remain on the books at both a state and federal level.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

Wow I think that's a very good perspective! You're definitely right about how there are different situations and sides to it. Great points.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. coolsid2007 (704)   ranked 90 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

If its, when my ego or self respect is at stake, I will stand up for my own thing. If its a discussion, I would rather think, wait, argue, understand, and if satisfied, will accept the things as they are. I do not like to lose an argument but do like to give a due respect to the discussion.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

that's reasonable

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6. myLot reputation of 45/100. smbBlogger (101)   ranked 2,012 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

With everything that occurs in this world you have to use your own brain and think about whats happening instead of following every rule and believing every media lie without question, like a robot, this is not a question of moral but a question of a persons stance on what happens around them.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

yeah that's probably true

 
7. ProfitableAct (5)   5 months ago

I think, it depends on our commitment. If one commits to a society, he or she must obey the society's rules. If he or she commits to God, he or she must obey the religion. But personal views is not a moral. If a person lives among others (society), likes or dislikes, he or she must stand up for the society rules, not individual views.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

sounds like social contract theory

 
8. myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4217)   ranked 4 out of 3,963 in thinker   5 months ago

Hi, anna!
It depends on the nature of the rules. Those we think are wrong should be fought. The rest, especially those that ensure our safety, must be obeyed.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

I think you're right

 
9. myLot reputation of 90/100. aerous (2045)   ranked 481 out of 3,963 in thinker   1 month ago

Rule is rule that must be followed, my friend. Because violating the rule is committing clear disrespect for any person or providence of the rule being impose...If your good enough and wise enough you should follow the rule. Like what rule being impose here in mylot. If your not follow the rule there is no room for you to stay in one organization. Because you make this organization complicated and it that happen...the organization or body of rule is being crippled...Following the rule is a good practice not moral...Have a nice day!


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

I think that's true most of the time but there have been times where there have been rules that were actually really bad themselves.


myLot reputation of 90/100. aerous (2045)   ranked 481 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

I agree with you that there is a rule that is bad for itself. But as the maxim rule say "the law maybe harsh but it is still the law". So we need to follow unless that rule will not affect our daily life or debase our personal life...Rule must always carried because if there is no law. I don't think what happen to our society if there is a peace or can we live peacefully because no crimes being committed in itself...What do you think if there is no rule that will followed? Do you think there is orderliness?

 
10. myLot reputation of 77/100. edxcast (431)   ranked 1,895 out of 3,963 in thinker   1 month ago

oh your entering a philosphic entry on here. Well in philosophy there is something known as the natural law. To sum it up is the law that can be known by every person(example not hurting others). It was introduced by Aristoteles and also revised by Saint Thomas Aquina. So in my opinion the given rules are not necesearily the things to obey as it may go against the natural law(forgot to say that all laws should be according to this law). Well thats it.


myLot reputation of 74/100. anna728 (577)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,963 in thinker  1 month ago

Yeah I've read some of the social contract theorists (ie Locke) and I remember natural law from that, too. But yeah, I think you make a good point there.

 
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