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Something of course the press will not cover is the senate is debating whether or not to make it legal for someone with a concealed weapons permit to carry across all state lines. I don't think it will pass with all these democrats but I feel it should be passed and you should be allowed to carry across state lines if you have one from your given state. For instance, If I go from pa to North Carolina If I'm carrying it thru Maryland and DC I'm illeagal then I get to Virginia and it's ok again, I think this has to be changed and allowed, I'm all about the second amendment.
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1. xfahctor (5465) | 6 months ago | As all out bizzarre as this is going to sound comming from me, I'm not such a fan of this bill. It certainly isn't the worst thing they could do by a long shot, but I am stil hesitant. Why you ask? though I am to, "all about the 2nd amendment", very much so in fact, but I am also all about the 10th amendment and this seems to me at least to be flirting with violating it. That being said, I haven't seen the actual text of the bill so I don't know exactly how they word it, wether or not it is up to the individual states to allow concealed carry through their state, what federal laws it is striking down, is it FORCING a state to allow a concealed carrier to carry through a state or simply ALLOWING it if the state chooses to, etc. I'm still kinda on the fence with this one.
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foursox212 (175) | 6 months ago | From what I saw states would still be able to have some control over how and when in their municipalities, however this bill would make it easier and legal for your travler, trucker ect. to stay loaded while trucking down the interstate. My brother a couple years ago was on his way from Pa to Chicago and in Ohio he got off the wrong ramp late at nite well it was a bad area and some scum crack head was chasing him down the interstate 100 miles per hour trying to hijack his new truck. Normally my brother would have been carrying but since Ohio doesn't recognize Pa's permits he didn't and it almost cost him his life. Good thing the crack head crashed and took off, act of god.
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hussyinterrupted (154) | 5 months ago | I havent read the text of the bill but I do believe that I saw on Lou Dobbs last night that this bill removes the federal ban on carrying weapons across state lines. States can still decide for themselves if they want concealed weapons or not. At least thats how I understood it.
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foursox212 (175) | 5 months ago | Thats what I get out of it, just to make it easier to continue to carry on interstates and what not.
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xfahctor (5465) | 5 months ago | Well Miss Interupted, if that is the case, than I don't have a problem with the bill. I do have a problem with the federal government forcing mandates on a state that it doesn't technicly have the authroity to. Again, I just haven't seen the bill.
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2. spalladino (9027) | 5 months ago | Many states have reciprocity agreements with other states and will recognize concealed carry permits from outside of their jurisdiction as you've indicated. Other states simply allow permit holders to transport an unloaded, secured weapon in their vehicle as they travel through without the agreement. Although the interstate transportation of a firearm is under the jurisdiction of federal law according to the U.S. code, the individual states do currently have the right to set their own rules if they're not one of the reciprocity states. My feelings about this may be a little bit stronger than xfahctor's at this point because I haven't seen this bill either but I don't believe that the federal government should be able to overrule any existing state's standards.
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3. gewcew23 (4075) | 5 months ago | The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land, it supersedes state law. After the Civil War freed slave, turned new citizens were having there liberties striped from them by southern state governments. One liberty taken away was blacks could not own firearms, yet the 14th amendment guarantees everyone Constitutional right across the board. Now I would like state themselves just to respect some one's individual right to self defense no matter where they might roam.
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4. cotton0821 (560) | 5 months ago | As I understand the law now, when I go to another state where I do not have a concealed weapons permit, I merely 'unconceal' my weapon. I put it in my trunk or whatever is required to be in compliance with that state's law. I am not sure I understand the actual purpose of this bill.
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foursox212 (175) | 5 months ago | Basically yes, for instance, I have my weapons permit in Pa, I travel to the beach or somthing in Maryland, It is now void even though my county sheriff did their extensive background check and everything technically I can't have it loaded while traveling thru that state but once in Virginia then Im good again and so on.
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5. di1159 (1529) | 5 months ago | I just returned from a road trip through several states and in on the way back, I discovered that my husband had brought along his gun and his concealed weapon permit. I wondered what would happen if were stopped for a traffic violation or accident and what if anything would have happened because of carrying it around. I think that it should be allowed. If you are approved to carry one in one state, why would it be illegal to carry it concealed in another? By the way I went from Florida, through Georgia, then South and North Carolina, so I really don't know what the laws say in those states. I'll be sure to check though next time we travel.
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6. worldwise1 (6100) | 5 months ago | While gun advocates are understandably for such a law, foursox, there is also the possibility for great misuse of it. Speaking from the vantage point of someone who does not own or carry a gun, I feel justified in saying that the probability for an increase in criminal activity might be a downside of such a law. I, for one, am not eager to return to the days of the Wild West! Just my personal opinion. BTW, the law did not pass.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 5 months ago | 48 states allow concealled carry.. which of those states have become "the old west"?
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foursox212 (175) | 5 months ago | You need to look at the statistics of crimes committed by concealed carry citizens.
remember, criminals don't apply for this.
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7. anniepa (9246) | 5 months ago | Actually, they did cover it and I understand the law didn't pass. I'm glad it didn't because I think states' rights should win out in a case like this. Annie
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foursox212 (175) | 5 months ago | I saw it didn't pass, the more I think about it I guess you do have to be careful of opeing the door to tramping on states rights, I just wish there was a way to make interstate transporting easier for someone with a concealed weapons permit for self protection, like I said earlier the ones that apply for one go thru background checks and are not the criminals.
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