racist vs separatist: is there really a difference
By mama_bear
@mama_bear (1118)
Canada
August 4, 2009 4:29pm CST
so mylotter this is an issue that really bugs me to no end as do other myriad prejudices. is there really a difference between a racist and a seperatist, and is there any hope for those that have been raised in that sort of environment, i mean i know that hate is taught, but is it possible for someone having grown up in such an environment to still have a strong moral compass and an idea of right and wrong? i guess it all comes down to the nature vs nurture debate.
i know that a seperatist does not believe in races mixing, so how is the different from being a racist, they kind of share the same belief structure. can someone please help me to understand this craziness. i mean in this day and age is there really room for this sort of attitude. and do media and other stereotypes play their role in this? i know that our preconceived notions about others color our interactions with them and opinions before we even meet some people.
i can understand that for religious reasons some parents and elders do not want their children mixing with others who might influence them adversely, but i am talking about racial mixing here. if a child is raised in a seperatist or racist environment, and then for instance goes away to school somewhere, somewhere where races mix freely, do you think that their previous conditioning can be reversed?
4 responses
@cocoprincess31 (39)
• United States
5 Aug 09
I do believe that there are those that can be re-conditioned. It is a frightening thing to know that there are people out there that cannot get beyond simple things such as the color of ones skin. Although we would all like there to be peace and harmony in the world, we have to realize that there is not. As far as reconditionig I believe that it works for some, but not all. In my opinion there already has to be some sort of want and or need to learn the opposite of what you have been taught. Its almost like taking an abused individual out of an abusive relationship. There needs to be thearpy in a sense, as well as interactions (possibly group sessions), with other races to discuss this topic in full length, and let the individuals speak to a person which they would have never done as apart of their daily routine.
As they say knowledge is power. The individual(s) that need the reconditioning need to be educated in what I believe is the "right way" is. Hatred is strong but love is stronger. Its truly like changing the way that person thinks, feels, and reacts. Its by far not impossible. Maybe difficult, but not impossible.
@syankee525 (6249)
• United States
5 Aug 09
i know some who have no issues with different race, but they dont belive in mix race relationship. to me there is a different. racest is people hating others for skin colors or bleifes.
well other just dont belive white or blacks getting married. to me it dont matter if mix race get together or not. but like my daughter she dont belive in it. but she's likes everyone who respect her no matter skin color they are.
we all need to see there isnt a black race or white race just human race
@mama_bear (1118)
• Canada
6 Aug 09
i just think that whoever is a seperatist is mildly racist or have racist leanings. having said that it is not AS bad as being a racist, it is just a very slippery slope though isn't it. how did it happen that she is like that and you are not, because clearly this is something that you have not taught her, how do you think that it happened?
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
5 Aug 09
Yes, children are like moulds of clay…their mental conditioning can be manipulated in both good and bad ways, even in late teens. I believe that basic human nature is good and this goodness needs to be nurtured more, children need to be shown that there are other alternatives to violence or separatist thought. Of course for that to succeed, a congenial atmosphere needs to be created by the govt., where no group feels threatened and everybody has level playing field. Otherwise such children might return from college and a beautiful environment to their hometown only to find their own people being denied basic rights and so all the good work goes waste
@mama_bear (1118)
• Canada
5 Aug 09
this is true, having a good foundation to work off of is better. there are some cases where someone is fairly open minded about other races and people, then something tragic happens to them, and they automatically associate that particular race with bad times and then begin to fear, then hate them. there is also so much racial profiling out there, the media feeds the beast. then again there are some out there who feed the stereotypes by perpetuating that which a race is accused of. for instance after 9/11 people's attitudes towards muslim people completely changed, and they became targeted by the masses because they were being measured with the same yard sticks as the terrorists. yes this is unfair, but to be honest sometimes when the media bombards you with some things, i think that subliminally you start to believe what is being said and then start to associate certain people with certain attrocities, this is sad but true.
@maximax8 (31042)
• United Kingdom
5 Aug 09
I am a keen traveler and so I understand plus respect all different colors and races of people. Cultural identity might be important or the people that have emigrated might have totally become like those of their new home country. I live in the United Kingdom and it is a multi cultural society. I believe white people, mixed races and black people should all get on well together. Religious beliefs are something that should be valued and respected.
I work as a primary school teacher. I usually teach classes that are mostly white children. In my first year of year I had a class with a black girl from Martinique, a black boy from Barbados and a white girl half French and half English. I made sure that the Caribbean life was represented in my teaching and the French language was shown as positive. I worked hard to make the parents know that we valued all the children of every color.
My aunt used to be a child minder. The people in her area were separatists. She did day care for the under fives. Only the Indian type population wanted to go to her. White children and the Caribbean population didn't want to mix with them. I think that was really sad. My aunt has so wished that all races had been able to mix freely. Now twenty years on things have changed and most of todays parents in her area are no longer racist or separarists
@mama_bear (1118)
• Canada
5 Aug 09
yeah i lived in england for a while, they seem to have their own weird race issues over there too. i do know how important religion is to some people, and even though sometimes i do not really get it i respect that. i know that for some like the amish and muslims it is important to segregate their people from others. the only light at the end of the tunnel is our little ones like my 3 year old mixed race niece, she does not see color or anything like that, she is an only child and she sees everyone who is her age or a little older regardless of color or race and her brothers and sisters. there are some kids who play ball in the front street, whenever we go past them natalia will say, "there are my brothers and sisters". it makes me smile a lot. i honestly think that parents should know better!





