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myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people4 months ago

With globalization so common now a days, it is pretty normal to have friends from another country.
The general observation I had so far when looking at some of he Asians who interact with Caucasians, they then to slang a little as the meeting session goes on. Most of them will then to try and talk in the slang of the Caucasian that they are having their conversation with. It could be concious on he part of he Asian, or itcould be unconcious. I do not really know for sure.

I wonder if the Caucasians do like wise when they are entertaining Asian friends?

Regardless, the question I have in mind is: do you find yourself tenting to slang when speaking to a foreigner?
Why do you do it?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4290)   ranked 12 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

I tend not to use slang normally, no matter who I'm talking with. Some slang, sure, I think everyone does, but not much. I'm even thoughtful about using contractions around Asians or people from anyone else who does not speak English as their native language. I wait and see how well their knowledge of English is before I feel comfortable enough to even use contractions like don't, isn't, won't, etc.

If they use contractions, I feel comfortable enough to use them, too. If they understand certain slang words in English, then I don't have a problem using it, except that it goes against the grain when I use slang because of my background in the English language. I even have trouble shortening some words like "admin" for "administration", "temp" for "temperature", stuff like that. I don't mind it if others use shortened versions of some words, and I do use them occasionally, but not often.

Basically, I want to see how well the other person's grasp is on the English language before I decide how to respond. If they do not use contractions, I won't use contractions (or, I should say, I will not use contractions). But, seeing how you have an excellent grasp of the English language, I don't have a problem using contractions or even some slang in communicating with you.

My husband told me that his first wife (from Taiwan) misunderstood him quite often because her knowledge of English was rather limited at first. He would say something in a joking manner and she would take it literally and get angry. (I have the feeling that this language barrier was part of the reason they were eventually divorced.)


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

ha ha ha ha ha... point noted.

Been a long while since we chatted.
How are you getting along?

Yeah, sometimes slangs cannot be avoided due to our difference in the grasp of the common language. In this case, English being the communicating medium.
Accent is a whole different thing altogether.

I guess I did not make myself clear in the beginning of the post.
When I was posting, I was having the intention to speak about accent. Cos each of us, grew up in different countries and cultures, the way we speak and pronounce the different phonetics is different. That results in the different accents when we try to pick up another language.

So the question is, do you try to imitate a different accent when talking or chatting with your foreign friends?


myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4290)   ranked 12 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Try to imitate different accents? Sometimes, I have enough trouble just trying to understand certain accents. LOL Some people from Great Britain or Scotland have accents so thick that there is no way I can understand them!

Where I live now, in Virginia, some people have a northern accent while most have a southern accent. I can, thankfully, understand both. Being raised in Maryland, I have more of a northern accent but have been told by people from farther north that I have a slight southern accent. I guess that is why I can understand both so well.

I don't try to imitate any accents, however. I speak the way I speak, although I know that my "southern accent" is growing stronger because of living around so many others with a southern accent. It's not a conscious thing, it's subconscious.

There is one specific word here that is spoken quite differently by different regions. The word is "want". People from the deep south pronounce it "wont". Some even spell it that way. That used to confuse me but, from communicating with more and more people thanks to the wonders of the internet, I'm getting used to certain accents and am able to understand them better. Still, I speak the way I speak and don't try to imitate a different accent than the one I have.

Now, as to how I'm doing, I'm actually doing a bit better these days. I was put on a new medication which has just come out on the market specifically for fibromyalgia and I can honestly say that my mood is much better these days. I'm also able to do more before I hurt so badly that I have to sit down. I suppose nothing will ever get rid of all the pain, but this new medication seems much better than anything I've taken before with no apparent side-effects, so I'm quite happy.

I'm still fighting with Social Security over my disability case, though. It's quite insane at this point. My hearing before the judge was over 6 months ago and I still have received no word from them other than "the decision is being processed", and that was over 3 months ago! I'm about to send my seven-year-long nightmare story to dozens of the larger newspapers across the country in the hopes that some will publish it, embarrassing our Social Security system. There is no reason for them to deny me over and over, then make me wait forever for what should be a guaranteed approval. I want our government to come up with a good explanation for making me, and so many others, to wait so long to get what we have actually already paid for! (We pay into our Social Security system with every paycheck... part of what we earn goes to them specifically for the time we can no longer work, so it is already our money, but they simply refuse to give it to us.)

It is causing great financial (and emotional) hardship to me and all the others just like me who have been waiting to be approved for disability. I hope I will be able to make a change in our system here and get people the benefits they need and rightfully deserve.

So, how have you been? I hope you are doing well!


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Woah... seems like you got your hands pretty full there!

It is good to hear that you are getting relief from your new meds.
At least you have one less worry. (referring to the pain)

Trying to go against the legislation is like throwing an egg (you) against a rock (the legislation).
If you are not too careful about it, it may back fire on you.
Then again, your laws on freedom is very much more liberal compared to where I am from.

Wishing you all the best in your quest for a fairer deal on social benefits. wink

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. thelastwolf113 (3083)   ranked 5,383 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

Not with my Asian friends, but only because I don't know the slang. I do it with my British friends, (I'm American) and the reason is so they know what I mean. Most slang words are part of the culture, the way we speak on a daily basis.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Yeah... some slangs are unavoidable.

How about accent? Do you try to imitate an English accent when chatting with your British friends?


myLot reputation of 89/100. thelastwolf113 (3083)   ranked 5,383 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

No, LOL. I have a hardcore Brooklyn accent, I can't do any other accents, even in writing, I guess my brain only speaks Brooklyn.

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. kun2349 (7276)   ranked 1,081 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

IT's definitely a NO for me!! lol=D Because it's gonna sound so unnatural, and that they might not even understand us at all, if we were to try too hard.. lol=D PLus, there are so many different versions of slang or accent with everybody, thus how do we know which slang works??

As such, i will rather to sticking to my own way, and i will try to explain more, rather than confusing them with my fake slang.. haha=D


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

My sentiments exactly!
It sounds so un-natural when you try to imitate an accent.
If you happen to do it and still speak clearly, it is still tolerable.

It is when you know that fella, and he doesn't slang or use an accent on normal days, but uses it when he is with foreigner friends, that is what amuses me.
And the way that person slurs his words to try and imitate the slang or accent, makes the whole conversation session, well... just unbearable.


myLot reputation of 97/100. kun2349 (7276)   ranked 1,081 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Yeha yeah!! The more they are trying to impress his foreign frenz or whoever, the more they are actually um-impressing themselves in front of us.. lol=D IT's like an insult to themselves, for they dun respect their own local kind of speech in the 1st place.. haha=D


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

lol Yep! Yup! Yep! lol

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. applefreak (2167)   ranked 1,864 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

i won't say i slang, and definitely not with caucasians. when i speak to my fellow countrymen, i tend to mispronounce my words when i speak mandarin. however, if i am speaking to someone from china or taiwan, i speak in proper mandarin.

there are several reasons why i do that. firstly, when i speak in proper mandarin to fellow countrymen, they either cannot understand me or mistake me as someone from china. this is very weird and makes me feel uncomfortable. then there is the understanding part. whenever i speak proper mandarin, i tend to use idioms and phrases. mostly people cannot understand and i have to spend much more time explaining to them. that's why i took the easy way out - speak to them in a 'language' they can understand. thumbdownthumbdown


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

That is a good way to communicate effectively.

But do you also adopt a certain accent when you talk to different people from different countries?

I noticed that many of my friends tend to try and adopt a different slang and accent when taking to their Caucasian friends.
Then use another accent when speaking to their Chinese and Taiwanese friends.
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myLot reputation of 99/100. applefreak (2167)   ranked 1,864 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

i don't believe putting on an accent. why do i want others to think i come from some where else? however, i did have people mistaking me to have been educated overseas. i don't know why but i guess it's the efforts i put into pronouncing my words. it doesn't matter where the people come from, i do my best to articulate my words carefully. to me, being understood is the most important thing. as for putting on an accent, i leave it to people who are less confident about themselves. winkwink


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Interesting way to look at it.
People who try to imitate an accent are people who have no confidence.
Well, at least, it sheds some light towards why they do it! lol

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5. myLot reputation of 89/100. Sir_bobby88 (6942)   ranked 5,762 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

I don't really slang when i am chatting with friends or guest yea but i do have a bit of my country accent yea but i guess every country had their own accents yea .


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

Yeah, I totally agree with you.
Every country has their own unique slang and accent.

It is when you meet up with people from different countries that you will notice them. And some people, I do not know why, try to imitate those accent and slangs when they meet up. Making it sound so un-natural and fake when they try to be different.

Thanks for sharing.
lol

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (8859)   ranked 4,393 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

i probably do unconciously..i do that with everybody,foreign to me or not.
but i had some friends from japan that..learned a whole bunch of new words around me..and a few they probably shouldn't have lol.but i explained to them they didn't want to repeat some of them in public.

i do make an effort not to use them though,i wouldn't want them getting in trouble by repeating me.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

ha ha ha ha ha... those "forbidden" words and phrases are probably the easiest to pick up. And also the fastest to learn among the whole language.
And it appears to be the same for all languages or dialects!

Interesting, isn't it?

Thanks for sharing scarlet_woman. lol

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (2746)   ranked 304 out of 35,325 in people   4 months ago

being Asian. i don't mind at all if US members will speak in their natural way. though it may initially difficult some things they say, but it is a way for me to learn english better. and so i do welcome those new words and phrases i get to read here in this site. that is why i am very into this site just to learn new things in english. things i have learned mostly i have just learned them here in the discussions we have here. some people here or friends of mine offline, i just showed them some discussions from US members. they avoid it. but i don't. cause how i would be able to improve my english. and i need to learn english as fast as possible. i don't want to take any short cut. if i need to learn all of new phrases and grammar and etc about in english then i will have to read. i actually read them line after line many times not just once. till i get to had a grasp of what being said and finally get the thought of the post. it is a rewarding experience actually.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   ranked 954 out of 35,325 in people  4 months ago

I guess some slang is unavoidable when speaking to people from different countries.

My original intend was to discuss about accent. Guess I got carried away with my typing.

Well, we all grew up speaking different languages. As such, our grasp of the phonetics are slightly different in different languages.
And when we try to learn another language, we will naturally bring this grasp of phonetics we know all our lives into that new language.

My question is, do you try to change your accent when you are speaking in a foreign tongue when chatting with your foreign friends?

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