Alright already! I'll quit asking for the birth certificate...  

And there is evidence of tampering on his draft card as well.

For such a public figure...leader of the FREE world and all...he sure is secretive about his public papers.

His life story that he wrote..doesn't match the facts either. Much evidence has been uncovered that he was lying about some of the events.

AND...on the birth certificate shown on the stopthesmears website Obama Sr.'s race is listed as African.

"There is a narrow list of [acceptable] words, none of which are 'African,' which is what is on the Certification of Live Birth. Whatever [expletive deleted] liberal counterfeited the thing couldn't bring himself to say 'Negro.'"

Indeed, a 1961 summary of U.S. vital statistics by the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now known as Health and Human Services) indicates:

Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite." The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father.
Many people remain unaware that someone doesn't even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a COLB, as those birth documents can be granted to children born out of state or even America.

Taz...did laser printing exist in 1961? Cause the birth certificate shown on Stop the Smears...was laser printed.

And this is interesting:

Documents uncovered by WND strongly suggest Barack Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's parents, did not live at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Hawaii – even though birth announcements in local newspapers listed that address.

Both newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin, carried the announcement about the Aug. 4, 1961, birth. Both included the 6085 Kalanianaole Highway address.

But WND has confirmed that the house at that street number was owned and occupied in 1961 by another longtime resident Hawaiian couple. Moreover, throughout the time he was in Hawaii, Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment at 625 11th Ave. in Kaimuki, within walking distance of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where he was enrolled for studies in the fall term 1959.

'Birth home' at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway on Oahu

The records from a Honolulu title search, obtained by WND, document 6085 Kalanianaole Highway was purchased in 1958 by Orland Scott Lefforge, a University of Hawaii professor, and his wife/companion Thelma Young, who lived at the property and remained owners into the 1970s.

http://www.wnd.com/index....

The only person that needed to see it saw it....

And who might that be?

psychotaz206,
You are free to opinion but the fact is Obama works for the people of the United States, as sitting president any legal documents he is asked for it is his duty to present in a timely fashion same as George W. Bush and Senator John McCain have done when asked for personal documents and in McCain's case his proof of citizenship.
Obama is not the first to be asked for proof of citizenship so the race card as some people have tired to play is way off base here,Obama is the very first government officials to refuse,seems to me the question left is >>>>>WHY?

mcCain seen it at least thats what he said because he questioned it when they where running and he showed it to him and whoever else had to see it at that time plus they posted it on the news awhile ago so the news that i watch just said they seen the proff so they don't even talk about it any more

i don't believe anything thats on the net because it is so easy to make things up i find out my info a diffrent way , the only people i can find that is still having a problem with this is the people on the net which are mainley on here everyone else i talked to said the bc was proof that he was born in hawii and thats all they needed.
If i was president and was asked to see it i would tell you no as well , hes not the only public person in office that says no i know a few that said if the public asked mainly the media they would tell them no as well.

Really,people fuss about him spending money.But these same people want him to spend more money on more copies of his birth certificate.

Over half of the public in the United States are aware of this issue, and over forty percent want the matter resolved

Apparently many are not satisfied. I think that is wishful thinking...it's not going away.

People just keep bringing it up because they are running out of things to fuss at him about.So, there pull something old up.

Let's see
copy of birth certificate = $25
Legal fees to keep from having to show birth certificate = (approximately) $1,000,000

There's plenty of things to 'fuss' at him about. But this one tops the list. Cause if he's not eligible to be the president, none of the other things matter.

well when he goes to court and the judge sees it then this may all stop but i don't think so because 3 judges already throught the case out but yet this is still going on, and i think it will never end.

dfollen , i think they just like talking about him or something , i mean the guy has not even been in office fir a year and people can't stop bad talking him.

deb he could send everyone a copy of it or have people come to the white house to see it and this still will not end because no one wants to hear it .

dfollin i think as long as he is trying to fix things then thats all that should matter , the thing is it takes money to fix things , if things where not this way before he took office then he might not be spending so much but people just like to blame it all on him.

Psychotaz206,You are so right.And like he said it's not gonna happen over night.People need to sit back and give him a chance.

I'm sorry, I will not sit back and give him a chance . NOt when the deficit is higher than it has ever been in history (not an exageration) and he wants to spend MORE?

Not when he asks citizens to inform on their neighbors..something that btw...is ILLEGAL for him to ask for that.


You say this is a dead subject and that it will go away...it inspired new legislation....

The provisions of H.R. 1503 are straightforward:


"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."


Are you two even Americans? Do you understand that this man has broken laws while president? How in the world can you suggest we give him a chance?

Bush's deficit:

July 29, 2008 The Bush administration will leave the next president a record federal budget deficit, according to White House projections.

The new estimate for the 2009 deficit is $482 billion — and it's likely to end up even higher.
$482,000,000,000

http://themoderatevoice.c...

Obama's deficit:

The budget office’s revised deficit projections bring the expected shortfall this fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, to $1.84 trillion, from a February projection of $1.75 trillion. For the 2010 fiscal year, the new estimate is $1.26 trillion, up from $1.17 trillion.
$1,840,000,000,000

http://www.nytimes.com/20...





Spends ain't the word for it...

Psychotaz, it isn't just the birth certificate. Please look at the list of information and records that Obama has sealed and will not allow to be released. Most of these records are released to the public as a matter of course by any candidate for president. Just not this one. Why?

Think about it as if it were George Bush or Bill Clinton or any other president. Think about how you would feel if 40% of Americans wanted the president to answer a simple question and he refused to acknowledge them. Think about your opinion of that president if he kept all these types of records and information a secret. Think about how you would feel about that president if he kept secrets but campaigned on transparency.

The best way for Obama to silence all his critics is simply to show the openness and transparency he said that all of Washington should have. Right?

Psychotaz, please, if you know why it's a good idea for the president to not release any of his records, please tell me why it is a good idea. I am not talking about the birth certificate so don't tell me you've seen that. I am asking about the rest of his records, records of the types that other presidents (and his opponent McCain) have released and Obama has sealed. Please tell me why the country is better off if he keeps secrets than if he displays the transparency he promised.

even if all these things where made public this still will not stop the news stoped with it and so the only time i even hear about it any more is on here . like i said he can send everyone all the stuff they want but this will continue on .

The only time I hear about it is on here...


maybe you should broaden your scope.

The mainstream news has touched on it long enough to dismiss it and make it seem irrelavant. But there are millions being spent by professionals, judges, lawyers, doctors, businessmen and women, even Congressmen, to force an answer that the media won't talk about...that should alarm YOU too.

it don't alarm me because the people don't need to see something they already posted on the news , plus clinton had to show the papers to the judge by a certain day or she would be in contempt that day has passed and she was not in contempt so i guess she showed the papers to who needed to see them.

Clinton's not the one who has to prove her citizenship Taz...her boss does. And as for it being shown on the news....I don't remember that, or I missed that. And so did Judge Carter who will hear the case on Obama's eligibility on Sept. 8th.

Let's just see now. A copy of the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE COSTS $10.00 and divide $1,000,000 by $10.00 means that we could possibly see 100,000 copies of the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Instead of this scenario, how about if we put the ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE in the hands of a PROFESSIONAL DOCUMENT EXAMINER or maybe several of them, and see what their conclusion is, and broadcast their findings very widely, say on the radio, television, and internet for starters. Would anyone agree that this is a good idea, and possibly put this issue to rest, once and for all. Maybe then we could get this USURPER out of office, before he runs this great country into the ground. Any comments?

Yep,the deficit is high,that's what Bush left for Obama.So,it is not his fault.

Psychotaz, this is not an answer to my question:

"even if all these things where made public this still will not stop the news stoped with it and so the only time i even hear about it any more is on here . like i said he can send everyone all the stuff they want but this will continue on ."

If you believe this is the reason the president immediately sealed all his records and refuses to let anyone see any of them, then you think he's a petulant and arrogant man who is just being difficult and thumbing his nose at people. Do you think that? Do you really think those are good qualities in a public servant?

Tell me why it is important for Obama to be more secretive than any other candidate or president, without predicting what the reaction to his opening these records would be. If the reason he shouldn't be open and transparent and keep his word is that he gets a kick out of telling the American people to shove off cause he's too important to be questioned, then I say he doesn't deserve to be president.

dfollin...READ before you speak. That 1.84 TRILLION is a gift from OBAMA...the 482 billion was bad enough...after eight years.

Look what Obama has done in less than a year!

once again READ THE INFORMATION CAREFULLY

debra,First he said that it was going to take time to get this taken care of.And obviously that when you take over a "broken house" you are going to have to spend to repair it in order to someday hopefully break even.

Also,the birth certificate was put on the news.It was also shown to ever "the powers that be" at the election committee.And it was shown to Senator McCain as well.But,apparently that's not good enough.

Apparently a judge doesn't think it was enough. Nor do many of the American people.

You implied that Obama inherited a 'broken' house. Well my take on it is...he may have...but no one thought he'd take a bulldozer to it while the occupants were still living in it.

Well,if he had then none of us would be here,would we?

YOU said he inherited a broken house. I carried the analogy further and said no one expected him to take a bulldozer to it while we were still living in it.

Now you tell me...you don't like the analogy? Here is the figures.

1,840,000,000,000
482,000,000,000
1,358,000,000,000 difference!

We don't have a house anymore dfollin. And we are still at war. And guess what...the idiot wants to spend TRILLIONS more! that's twelve zeros..MORE!

thats my point as well i think people just don't want him in office period so they are going to try to bring up old stuff may be if he was a rep then they may not but a lot of other sure would because rep got us into this big mess.

I did not suggest that everyone in the country needed to see it. How absurd. Complain? Now it's complaining to insist that the PRESIDENT actually adhere to the Consititution?

And I'd like to know the name of the person who you keep referring to...the one who 'needed' to see it, saw it?

Is that the latest...who'd he pay off to say it...if anyone actually did say it?

He's lied and lied...and lied some more about so many things. And it's be verified that he lied. And you call us who demand he be 'transparent' nuts? you all still believe him.

Now there you are saying something I can agree with...I don't want him in office.

'it was broadcast in the news."

Now I've heard everything....

It must be so...MSNBC said so!

Hey, if it had not been for this asking for blank checks for healthcare reform I probably would of still been stuck in my Obama the Great stupor and then I started getting emails from Obama's (hey, don't tell me they forged his signature) campaign saying anyone who speaks against this reform are LIARS--do you need anymore explanations?

The soft speaking orator is calling people--heck, lets even say ALLOWING this with his name on it--something that suggest I don't deserve the right to object, and IM a citizen--and then on top you have Congressmen and Congresswoman speaking down to us who opt to rightfully object basically saying you don't know how to talk rhetoric like them therefore they don't have to listen, give me a break.

Debra,Iam not the only one on here that Obama's birth certificate was on the news!And McCain saw it to,so I guess Obama paid your so caller perfect McCain too.

NO where did I say Mccain was perfect. So don't put words in my mouth please.

I'd like to know if the long form birth certificate was shown on the news...why did a judge put a date of Sept. 8, 2009 to hear the case?



And this published today on RenewAmerica.com



By Joan Swirsky

Back in October of 2008, when the subject of Obama's Constitutional eligibility to be president of the United States was just a blip on the radar screen of public awareness, I wrote an article about how easy it was to find my then- 92-year-old mother's birth certificate.


Frankly, I didn't think finding my mother's birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didn't speak English. Despairing that she would never be "qualified" to receive the care [in a nursing home} that she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913. When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was "asking something impossible." I gave her my mother's first name and her father's last name. Within four minutes, she said, "Here it is!" When I expressed my amazement, the woman said: "That's nothing...we're routinely asked to find birth certificates from the 1800s, and we do that all the time!" Total time it took me to find my mother's 1913, born-in-a-farmhouse birth certificate: 10 minutes!


Obama was born not in 1913, like my mother, but in 1961 — or perhaps in 1957, according to his MySpace page, which would make him 52, born supposedly in Hawaii before it became a state in 1959. So it was quite curious that not one cyber-sleuth could find an authentic, verifiable copy of his original vault copy birth certificate. I'm not talking about the faux version Obama posted on his website, which was deemed the real thing by FactCheck.org, a "truth"-detecting site that is sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation, the same foundation that hired Obama and his terrorist pal William Ayers and gave them millions of dollars for a research project in Chicago. In other words, the least credible source!

Even more significant is that no one in the media thought Obama's missing birth certificate worth even casual mention. Their thinking seemed to be: If we're not going to check on his eligibility to be president, then why question why the other crucial documents were — and continue to be — sealed? For instance: his baptism certificate; elementary, high school, college and graduate school transcripts; visa(s); selective service record; alleged multiple Social Security numbers; Illinois attorney's license; Illinois State Senate records; law practice client list; Univ. of Chicago scholarly articles; financial records while a community organizer in Chicago; and medical records. I'm also curious about why Michelle Obama's law license was suspended in 1993 by the Illinois Supreme Court, but then again she wasn't running for president.

Instead, the media were frantically busy trying to divert public attention away from those pesky things known as credentials with gossip-driven tabloid reportage of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber in order to avoid the bigger-than-Watergate potential scandal of whether or not Obama was eligible — according to the U.S. Constitution — to become President of the United States!

NOW WE KNOW WHY

In an explosive interview by Dr. Laurie Roth on her syndicated West Coast radio show on August 7th, Douglas Hagmann — a respected journalist, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, and longtime private investigator, and Judi McLeod, a prolific journalist and the managing editor of Canada Free Press — the reason for the media blackout about the birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations but also from Federal Communication Commission officials!

According to Hagmann and McLeod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously, after Obama was elected but before he was inaugurated:


A major TV talk-show host reported that he was ordered not to raise the birth certificate issue or risk losing his job.


FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine "look mild" in comparison to other consequences.


In at least one corporate TV headquarters, memos were circulated to all on-air employees not to mention the birth certificate issue, as well as other specific subjects like Obama's Illinois lawyer's license, his college records, etc., under both implied and explicit threats.


During the interview, Hagmann and McLeod — who never mentioned a particular network by name — alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession, copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations. But they did tantalize listeners with descriptions of meeting with "sources" outside of St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City, a high-placed contact looking nervously over his shoulder, references to directives and warnings given by "those at the top," and the undisguised threat of one executive to his underlings: "This is serious, and so will the consequences be if anyone chooses not to be a team player with this."

This comes as no surprise to Fox watchers who have noticed that the Stalinist-style censorship of the Obama regime is already here. This couldn't possibly be because of the healthy shares of stock the Saudis bought in Fox, could it? If so, why would the Saudis care so much about quashing potentially damning revelations about Obama? Have they also bought shares in Obama?

Come to think of it, who exactly paid the tuition for Obama's stint at Harvard Law School? What role did Obama's long-time friend, Khalid al-Mansour, a key advisor to a Saudi billionaire, play? Writer Kenneth Timmerman describes al-Mansour as "well known within the black community as a lawyer, an orthodox Muslim, a black nationalist, an author, an international deal-maker, an educator, and an outspoken enemy of Israel." This is not to omit that al-Mansour was originally contacted to intervene with Harvard on Obama's behalf by Percy Sutton, former Manhattan Borough President and the lawyer of Malcolm X. Ah...the tangled web of it all!

Then there is the question of what role was played by Saudi Prince Alwaleed, the nephew of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia? You remember Prince Alwaleed, who offered then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani $10 million after September 11 if he would only blame America for the terrorist attacks of which 15 of 19 perpetrators were Saudi Arabian — a "gift" the mayor promptly and with appropriate contempt rejected!

In short, what influence have the Saudis exerted on Fox to muzzle the issue of Obama's birth certificate? I don't ask this about the network TV channels or cable channels like CNN and MSNBC, which are still issuing daily hagiographies of Obama.

dfollin, I suppose you think 9/11 was just a conspiracy by George Bush to draw us into a war with Iraq and avenge his daddy, don't you? Take a look at the name given as someone who is linked to Obama as a major contributor to his college fund. And then picture our PRESIDENT bowing before an Arab head of state. Think about how he was listed as a Muslim in Indonesia school system. And then remember that the Islamic law is, once a Muslim, always a Muslim..or else you die. He was well received in Cairo...wasn't he?

You all (Obama supporters) gave Bush H*LL for being big oil...and his business relationship with the Saudi family...but say nothing about this? Obama bows before an Arab head of state, apologizes for American interests and culture and NOTHING is said against him in the press...the same press that lambasted Bush for having interests in the oil industry. Who is paying off the press...the same press who could not wait to deal a death blow to the Bush Administration. And NO, I am NOT a Bush fan...I just despise Obama's lies more.

Conspiracy...sometimes IT IS MORE THAN A THEORY. I suggest you do a little more research and come back prepared.

Debra,I did not say that.You just proved that republicans put words into people'
s mouths.He did not pick his name either.His parents named him that.Actually it was his dads choice.Hmmm,wonder if there are any muselums,killers,thieves,liars,cheaters and so on named Debra?

I said "I suppose..." That is NOT putting words in your mouth.

As for the name...I said...take a look at the name in the article...had nothing to do with Obama's name. The person named is possilby a supporter of Obama's college career...he is one of the richest Mulims on the planet. And we hated Bush for being to friendly with the Saudi family...but here's one who possibly paid for Obama to go to college...hhhmmmmm? He's also the one who offered Mayor Guiliani money to help rebuild The World Trade Center...and even though he is a Democrat...Guiliani turned it down! Why? Conflict of Interest perhaps?

I didn't hate Bush for being friends with a Saudi family.You don't know that's who paid for Obama's college.And even if it was that does not mean he will live the rest of his life following this person's orders or beliefs.

The Democrats made Bush's private involvement in big oil interests into something suspect....yet say nothing of this evidence that a Saudi probably paid for obama's tuition to an expensive college....use your head, WHY would this Saudi prince PAY for a non descript law Students Tuition? Think!

Fortunata
Obama did well enough to get himself in to Harvard and obtained the most expense education money can buy the real question is who paid for it,we don't yet know because Obama refuses to present his education financial records only question should be is >> WHY!!!
In regard to Mrs Obama she can not practice law anymore they jerked her lenience back in Illinois some time ago.
She was hooked up with Bill Ayer's old lady in some kind of crap in Chicago,she represent Mrs Ayers in some kind of shady dealings.
Mrs Obama was hooked up with David Axelrod in a corrupted hospital plot she moved low in come and the very poor out of the hospital she worked heading this dept to other low quality hospitals the deal was to keep bed's open for the insured the reason was money filling the coffers of the hospital she was employed at.

But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.


The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.


In the interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist who was a “mentor” to the founders of the Black Panther party at the time the party was founded in the early 1960s.


Sutton described al-Mansour as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.


Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.


Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.


As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.

http://www.newsmax.com/ti...

I am being very facectious here, but maybe he really believes he is the messiah. And wants us to believe he's come down out of the clouds with no human parents?

Shoot me now....I'm ready for the fallout!

Destiny...I really would like to see that long form birth cerificate too.

But I've broadened my scope....like I told someone else to do in this discussion.

I believe if we saw his other documents too...even more rats would come scurrying out of the woodwork.

No...I think they're just scared sh*tless and really really want him to be the messiah...or superman even. They realize that we're in deep doo doo as a nation and the world in general is headed to a real scarey place...but this guy isn't gonna save anyone folks...he's the one who is going to take us to that scarey place and they just don't want to realize it.