Hurricane Katrina: 4 years later.  |
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It's been 4 years since Hurricane Katrina made landfall on the US gulf coast. Prs. Obama marked this day by talking about the continuing recovery of New Orleans. Why is it that all the cities that were hit harder by Katrina, and then hit by Hurricane Rita were fully recovered long ago?
More money was sent to New Orleans than has ever been spent on any disaster area in the history of the US. More money has been spent on New Orleans than every other city hit by Katrina and Rita combined. Yet New Orleans is the city that isn't recovered yet?
Today marks another 4 year anniversary. 4 years ago, Mayor Nagin committed the biggest act of mass murder in the history of the United States. Mayor Nagin refused to follow the New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management plan. He did follow it as far as evacuations, but after the hurricane went through, no assessments were done on the area before he gave the "all clear" and released people back to their homes.
Then the levies and floodwalls broke.
Over 700 deaths occured, most of whome died as a result of the flooding, not the hurricane.
The people of New Orleans rewarded Nagin for his acts of murder by re-electing him.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | He was elected because he, and the incompetent press were successful at lying enough to deflect blame to Prs. Bush, instead of the murdering drunk, Mayor "School Bus" Nagin.
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psychotaz206 (1407) | 4 months ago | in my oppinion it was both of there faults and bush even said he should of acted faster on that but the mayor should of did a better job on checking things out before he let people go back in, as far as them reelecting the mayor i have no clue on that one.
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piasabird (1486) | 4 months ago |  It would appear a “memo” has surfaced, advising the black community to unite behind one black mayoral candidate.
"Time is of the essence because in order to defeat a Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy we have to get out now and work in a manner to defeat her without a runoff, and the key is a significant Black turnout in the general election;
The reasons support should be given to Lisa Borders is: 1) she is the best black candidate in the race who has a chance to win the election because she can attract downtown white support; and 2) based on polling data drawn from a host of sources between May 2009 and July 2009, the numbers suggest Borders is growing stronger as we move closer to the election, while the most recent polling data suggests that the other black candidates are falling further behind over the same period." http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/08/27/the-memo-about-to-shake-the-atlanta-mayors-race/
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Oh, I agree, there were mistakes made at all levels. However, if that murdering drunk Nagin and that incompetent wench Blanco did their jobs, then they would have had about the same type problems as any other city hit by a Cat 1 or 2 storm.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Idiot, New Orleans was his by a the edge of what had become a Category 3 hurricane. According to the National Hurricane Center, New Orleans was hit with the wind and water equal to a category 1 or 2 hurricane. It was the breaches of the flood walls and levies that caused most the damage and death.
Please, in all your vasts knowledge of the subject, can you explain to me how all the other areas that were hit by Hurricane Katrina and Rita are fully recovered, yet New Orleans isn't? Please explain to me how Florida recovered from 3 major hurricanes in one season, yet NO hasn't? Please explain to me how, even after throwing more money into post Katrina New Orleans that all other disaster areas ever, the city still isn't recovered?
I read the New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan section about Hurricanes... did you?
Hmm, I'll just chalk up your personal attack against my experience as coming from someone who has no way of knowing my background.
Let me enlighten you a bit.
I spent much of the 90s in one disaster area or another, helping the recovery efforts for communities hit with everything from snowpack emergencies to hurricanes. I have lived through hurricanes and helped with the recovery. The biggest recovery operation I've been on was Hurricane Andrew.
Ok, now, knowing that about me, would you care to comment again?
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Maggiepie (1454) | 4 months ago | Oh, B.S. Barbra Streisand. We survived hurricane Carla & subsequent hurricanes, & in fact, so did the rest of the afflicted coastline come back faster after Katrina. So don't tell me it takes that long for cities to recover!
Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Gee I wonder how I know it takes longer than you expect. Because I lived through many including a category 5. The place I lived in tooks more then 4 years to recover. Some parts of it will never recover because what was lost were historical buildings that you can't get back.
Also calling people names is no way to get any point across. It shows your ignorance and how quickly you become unsettled. Also as far your comment about being around disaster environments. I think you are lieing sounds more like another imaginary bit from your imaginary world.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | And I think you're lying about being in any Cat 5 hurricanes. See, we both can play that game.
Btw, I say again, what hit New Orleans was NOT a category 5 hurricane. According to the National Hurricane Center, New Orleans was hit by Cat 1 or 2 forces.
Please explain to me how all the other areas hit by Katrina and Rita have recovered nicely, but it's only New Orleans that is still sitting on their lazy butts whining?
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | and btw, if it bothers you to be called an idiot, quit being one.
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | I don't care what you think I know and that is all that counts for me. I am not on here calling you names.
You want to know the answer to your question. Go live in an area when it gets hit by a category 3,4,or 5 hurricane and STAY there for more than 4 years.
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Oh does it bother you that I point out how ignorant you come off everytime you use that word. Oh well if you don't like being viewed as ignorant and you if you want your point to actually have bearing in a discussion then maybe you should stop being so ignorant in your choice of words.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | It doesn't bother me, I simply don't understand that kind of intellectual laziness.
Btw, should I negate anything you say simply because you called me a name? Or is "liar" no longer considered name calling?
and once again I will ask you...
How is it that all the areas that were hit by Katrina and Rita are fully recovered, yet New Orleans isn't?
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Oh you don't like it that I don't believe you, I don't care if you don't like not being believed why should you be all you do is call people names who don't agree with you. Hard to believe anything that comes from you when you can't even express it in a non-hatred way.
I already answered your question, it's only laziness on your part for not reading it.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Now I can truthfully call you a liar because NO YOU DIDN'T answer the question.
You also don't seem above name calling yourself, does that mean no one should listen to anything you say?
For that matter, Obama, Pelosi and Reid love to call people Nazi, Teabagger, and other names. By your own words, that should negate anything else they have to say.
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | "You want to know the answer to your question. Go live in an area when it gets hit by a category 3,4,or 5 hurricane and STAY there for more than 4 years." That was my answer to your question.
You haven't told the truth so that would mean you are lieing. You called yourself a liar all I did was say I didn't believe you, you took it to the next level not me.
It's funny how you try to justify your name calling especially when you omit the name calling that has come from republicans. But of course you would ignore that.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | That's not an answer to the question, that is a dodge!
You can't even back up your own lies!
You're a pathetic, lying pinworm.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | I didn't justify my name calling, I simply questioned how it negates anything I've said. Then I give you examples of people you seem to listen to, even though they aren't above name calling themselves.
Now, can you answer my questions, or are you going to continue blathering on with lies, dogdes and false allegations?
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | By claiming other people do it so it must be okay for you to do is pathetic. If everyone jumped off a bridge would you do it too? According to your logic you would because you've seen other people do it.
And I already answered your question you just don't want to face the fact that you have no real idea how long it takes for a place to recover from a bad hurricane. you would rather call people names and show your ignorance rather than buck up and go get the experience to answer your own question. Since I have been in that situation unlike yourself and I have lived through it and lived through the restoration process after a hurricane which I already stated it took longer than 4 years so really I answered your question three times now. Apparently you would rather call me names then look at the real answers, you keep showing your ignorance.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | No, liar, you didn't answer the question. You simply dodged it by telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about.
No, liar, I never said that since others do it, it's ok for me to call names. I simply questioned your assertion that just because I call names means that nothing else I say matters. I used the example of Obama, Pelosi and Reid calling people names to back my point.
So, please, can you answer the question...
Why are all the other areas, who were hit much harder by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita recovered, but New Orleans isn't?
Can you answer it? Or am I only going to be hit with another round of dodges?
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Apparently you don't like to read. I've already answered it. From my personal experience it takes longer than 4 years for an area to recover from that type of hurricane disaster. I don't know how else I can word it for you to understand it should I spell it out phonically for you?
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | I didn't ask about your personal experience, I asked about New Orleans and the other areas hit by hurricane Katrina.
Btw, quit saying that New Orleans was hit by a Cat 5 hurricane... it wasn't!
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Well I answered the question and Katrinia was a category 5 hurricane.
"Katrina was the 11th named storm, fifth hurricane, third major hurricane and second category 5 hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. It was also the sixth strongest hurricane ever recorded, and the third strongest hurricane to make landfall in the U.S. ever recorded."
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/katrina/facts/facts.html
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | So you expect an area hit by 3rd strongest hurricane in the United States history to recover in just 4 years? Is your math really that off?
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | "The hurricane moved southwestward across southern Florida into the eastern Gulf of Mexico on August 26. Katrina then strengthened significantly, reaching Category 5 intensity on August 28. Later that day, maximum sustained winds reached 175 mph with an aircraft-measured central pressure of 902 mb while centered about 195 miles southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River. Katrina turned to the northwest and then north, with the center making landfall near Buras, Louisiana at 1110 UTC August 29 with maximum winds estimated at 125 mph (Category 3). Continuing northward, the hurricane made a second landfall near the Louisiana/Mississippi border at 1445 UTC with maximum winds estimated at 120 mph (Category 3). Weakening occurred as Katrina moved north-northeastward over land, but it was still a hurricane near Laurel, Mississippi."
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml#katrina
Yes, Hurricane Katrina had reached Cat 5 in the Gulf, but by the time it hit the Gulf Coast it was downgraded to a Cat 3!
Yes, there were massive deaths, but they were unnecessary since that drunken murderer Nagin refused to activate the New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan for hurricanes.
But you still haven't answered my question...
Why have the cities that were hit harder by Hurricane Katrina and Rita been able to recovery while New Orleans hasn't?
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Because it takes longer than 4 years for an area to recover from a devasting hurricane like Katrina.
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The place had a lot of historical buildings that are in need of repair plus those building need to be restored in a way where they can be still be considered historically accurate.
You want exact answers go ask Bush and his inept head of FEMA buddy.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | But all the other cities that got hit harder are recovered!!!!
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Yes, there were mistakes made by FEMA, but FEMA didn't murder anyone Nagin did!
But you don't care, as long as you can mindlessly and stupidly blame Bush for everything.
Grow a brain you waste of human flesh!!!!
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Yeah ok see there you go again. Your point gets blown out the water and you resort back to name calling. Your ignorance rears its ugly head again. I gave you an answer numerous times but you were too busy fixated on trying to come up with another deragatory name to call me.
You know if you don't want people to disagree with you then you might want to stay in your imaginary world and don't wonder too far from your front yard.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Lying Nazi loving Cow! You never answered the question! you never said anything about why the other cities hit by Hurricane Katrina are recovered but New Orleans isn't.
You only made completely idiotic remarks about it taking longer than 4 years... but it hasn't taken that long for every other city but New Orleans.
If you are going to answer THAT question, be my guest, if not then slither back into the sewage where your kind of filth thrives.
I hope you are sterile, I'd hate to think of someone like you raising kids. That is abuse in itself!
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | yeah and your not angry or anything. Once again you expose your ignorance with name calling and your inability to actually hold a decent discussion. How sad are you? You must be a miserable person to be around. Always getting upset when someone disagrees with you. Always getting upset because you don't get exactly what you want.
I did answer you I said go ask Bush. If you don't like the answer then don't ask the question.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Once again, you lie. Can't you answer a simple question?
Apparently not. You can go away now, and stay away from kids, you are a threat to them.
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | I answered the questions you asked. It is not my fault you can't see past your ignorance to comprehend the answers.
So now I'm a danger to kids because I don't agree with you? That's a laugh. Look at how you are acting on here. You don't get your way so you act like a 3 year old and throw a tantrum. You are more of a danger then I ever would be. You sit there and live in this imaginary world where everything you say or think is great and everyone has to agree and if they don't then you call them names and then when calling them names doesn't effect them you start claiming they need to go away.
Go back to your planet, Earth is too dangerous for you.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | You never answered the question.
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barrudaki (1262) | 4 months ago | Answered several times you refusing to except the answer does ont mean I didn't answer it all it means is you can't take it when you don't get the answer that fits into your imaginary world.
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3. ddzdvd (181) | 4 months ago | we all know why the chocolate city is not doing to well, nor will it do well in the future.keep it just as chocalate as you like mr.nagin
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | Yup, the racist drunk Mayor "School Bus" Nagin got his wish.
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4. Netsbridge (1043) | 4 months ago | Although it can be tough to start allover, I think that the prolonged effect of Katrina on some New Orleanians is probably the result of government dependency.
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5. Maggiepie (1454) | 4 months ago | Well, you know the answer, of course. New Orleans has for many decades been run by corrupt liberals, producing a mindset in its populace of entitlement.
I still sent lots of goods when I saw what was happening. My heart still does go out to the people trapped in such an evil system. They truly do "know not what they do."
Nagin does, though. He'll answer for it, too, eventually.
Who was it--Jefferson?--who said, "I tremble for American when I rember that God is just."
Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"
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6. matersfish (799) | 4 months ago | From what I can tell, in most other areas struck by disaster, the people band together to get things done. In New Orleans, it seems as if the lion's share of citizens are waiting for government, insurance companies or Brad Pitt to get in there and rebuild their communities.
I'm sure this isn't the case across the whole city. Many people are probably busy trying to rebuild their lives. But with so much money spent and so much time, you do have to wonder what the hold up is.
Money, manpower and time -- what else is needed? More money? That never works.
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ParaTed2k (4586) | 4 months ago | True. They have been taught from birth that if there is a problem, there is a government entity whose job it is to fix it.
Another sad fact is, the victims of the hurricane shouldn't have been moved to other states. The people should have been able to stay in the area and help with the recovery. The people with the most invested in the recovery were removed from it... leaving only the people who didn't want to help.
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