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Who was the first METAL band....Led Zepplin or Black Sabbath?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin 3 years ago

I wanted to do something fun for a change...I had this discussion with my sons when we studied the History of Rock and Roll.

Who was the first Heavy Metal band?

They say...Black Sabbath as they are all die hard Ozzy fans.
I say...Led Zepplin as Jimmy Page is the greatest guitarist in the world.

What do you say?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)   3 years ago

Funny, I was just listening to this very album noted on the pic here. Anyway, all I can find is that they both started about the same time. That would be 1969 so it would just be a matter of months that makes or breaks them. Jimmy Page is a grand guitarist but I would say he is the worldest greatest. Now is this rock guitarist or blues guitarists? Dead or alive? Let me know and then I could give you my opinion. LOL


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Well...let's just say rock...even though I think he's the best at both.


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Well, he is good but you also have Jimi Hendrix and George Thorogood and several others. You really think he is the best?


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I admit I WAS young and impressionable when I first saw him play...but being the inovator that he is...especially when he used the bow on his guitar...I'd say, yes he is the best. I love guitar...and you're right, Hendrix and Thourogood are wonderful and easy to listen to...but I'd vote Page as best anytime. Next in line would be Stevie Ray Vaughn.


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

I would agree on Stevie Ray Vaughn. And I think Jimi Hendrix would hold a fast second to that but, this other fellow I am just not sure of him. LOL


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I am a die hard Zepplin fan. w00t

As an interesting side note...a local radio station asked the same question...ZEP won!


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Led and AC/DC are two of my all time favorites.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

btw...love your avatar. I use a cladaugh over on Yuwie. I'm into all things celtic. That is really pretty.


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Thank you. I am into all things Irish and the celtic knots are so nice. And then I am also into all things Peace or hippyish. So there ya have it.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I have a celtic knot tattoo taken from the cross when you enter the village my great grandmother was born in...my brother got a rubbing and I used it as a tattoo between my shoulders right under my neck. It is for strength and loyalty.


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Way cool. I thought if I got a tatoo I would have a celtic knotting done very delicately around my wrist as a bracelet. In a pretty green color. With maybe some yellow in it as well.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I work in a very conservative part of the country. If I got a tat where it could be seen in my scrubs, they'd make me bandage it...lol. I wanted to get one of those pretty little nose piercings, wear a little tiny jewel on the side of my nostril...boss said, NO WAY. And since she was my best friend as well, I listened to her. lol

I like the bracelets too...considered one on my ankle..daughter in law got one...said it hurt real bad. let me know if you get the bracelet and if it hurt...bones being so close to the surface and all.


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Oh, I would probably never get one. I think they are lovely and have seen the docs about the ascient Japanese art of keeping the tattooed body after the person dies. Oh my gosh! Can you imagine! They actually skin the person for their tats. And another one about the tribes that scar their children with this ornate tatoo looking scars that are a right of passage sort of thing. And, of course, I love to watch LAInk. What artists they are. I admire them very much but just can't see doing to myself. My daughter has a nose peircing. I like it on her but doubt I would never get one myself. I like the one the son on Dog, the Bounty hunter has too. But, again, I wouldn't get one myself.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I admit I was not liking it when my oldest son turned 16 and came and asked for permission to get one. I looked at what he wanted, listened to his reasons and decided to ok it. Why? I firmly believe that a person's body is their own and if they know what the consequences are they should be able to do what they want with it. (within reason)

I do understand where you are coming from, though. It is a massive statement and a permanate one. happy


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15697)  3 years ago

Yes, it is that. Scarey.

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. cobrateacher (4909)   3 years ago

Hi, DebraK!
What a change!
If I were to judge, Jimi Hendrix was first. Sabbath was next, but at just about the same time as Zeppelin.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I didn't think Hendrix was around before 1969. Sabbath and Zep were already recording before then, weren't they?


myLot reputation of 96/100. cobrateacher (4909)  3 years ago

His first album was released in 1967, after he'd built a huge reputation for several years on stage.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I have to admit....I've not been a big Hendrix fan, though he had great talent it just wasn't my thing. I thought his debut was at Woodstock. OH MY! I've used up my one wrong answer for the week! cry

I watched a documentary on History Channel on Woodstock....made me feel real old. Something I REMEMBER...on the History Channel? confused


myLot reputation of 96/100. cobrateacher (4909)  3 years ago

Want to feel really old? I was on a crew that worked setting up Woodstock! We never really expected anyone to show up there, but it was a job a friend told us was fast cash, so my husband and I went there.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

w00t

I'm jealous. lol

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3. EXEGESIS2005 (10)   3 years ago

Both Bands were so Different!!!!!
I go with Led Zeppelin!!!!
They used to Be The Who Friends!!!!!!!
They did more!!!!!
Black Sabbath is Terriffic!!!!!!!
Led Zeppelin were Bigger,tough!!


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Welcome to myLot EXEGESIS2005....and I agree with you 100% thumbup

I got a little burned out on Ozzy...but I never tire of Jimmy and Robert!

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4. myLot reputation of 56/100. mikedotcom (200)   ranked 43 out of 72 in led zeppelin   3 years ago

I am a HUGE fan of Led Zeppelin, and I appreciate you as another...but...
please learn to spell their name correctly! (you left out an 'e').
Now who was 'first'? Black Sabbath was called Earth in 68, and Led Zeppelin was The New Yardbirds but it wasn't until 69 that Earth change the name to Sabbath, and Zeppelin already had 2 albums out by then. I would say Led Zeppelin was first in that case. Deep Purple was also out and about during those same days and I would call them heavy metal too! Eric Clapton formed the supergroup Cream in late 66 which precedes all of the above...but was Cream considered heavy metal?
I guess all in all it just is not fair to give credit to any single band as the "first" heavy metal band as there was so much going on at the same time over in the UK...but I think it would be fair to give credit to England for introducing heavy metal to the world!
p.s. I too think Jimmy Page is the greatest guitarist ever...because of the depthness of his playing, his composing skills, his creation of fabulous solos, his ability to create and write music of such varied styles and his awesome stage presence (I saw them in '77).


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

You're pretty new to the lot..WELCOME. And you're right...more attetion to detail was needed. Forgive me! cryhappy


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

lol *attention

my only excuse is the baby on my lap wants to type too.


myLot reputation of 56/100. mikedotcom (200)   ranked 43 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

not so new, been on mylot for a couple years now...


myLot reputation of 56/100. mikedotcom (200)   ranked 43 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

just cant figure out how to make my "score" or "rating" get bigger...me thinks I is too fussy at times (lol) and love a good heated discussion

thankx 4 the welcome!


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I don't worry about the star rating...it's been up to nine and as low as seven.

I love a heated discussion too....there's plenty here if you care to look at mine!

I have been here since July 1st. I post like crazy. Can't shut me up. wink

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5. myLot reputation of 83/100. reploid (728)   3 years ago

I think you should check out this blog : http://medmetal.blogspot.com .It talks about Def leppard which I think can be the first heavy metal band. They say the band is 30 years old. I think you should check it by yourself.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Zep and Sabbath were around in the sixties (that's almost 50 years!)...reploid. Though I do appreciate Def Leppard.


myLot reputation of 83/100. reploid (728)  3 years ago

I like bands like dire straits and pink floyd which I consider quite old. Started to like led zepplin quite lately. Wow. I did not knew zepplin was 50 years old. Black sabbath is not one of my favourites. Happy Mylotting.

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6. myLot reputation of 92/100. firstcontact1990 (1273)   ranked 8 out of 72 in led zeppelin   3 years ago

In their own way, they both are. If its in terms of Hard Hitting Riffs, then its Sabbath. But anyway, I really think, Sabbath are Pioneers of Heay Metal, and for the record, I dont consider Page the Best Guitarist in the World......Thats Jimmy Hendrix or Ritchie Blackmore....


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

To each their own! w00t

But for the life of me I cannot understand how you could say Page isn't the best? wink


myLot reputation of 92/100. firstcontact1990 (1273)   ranked 8 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I can understand you would say Page, because he was in Zeppelin, but, I honestly think Jimi Hendrix is a far, far better Guitarist all round, as is Ritchie Blackmore. Think about it, Hendrix has been dead for what, 38 years,and people still talk about like he is the greatest which he is. And to be perfectly honest, I dont think id put Page in my personal Top 10 favourite Guitarists.

But as you say, "To Each their own"


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Perhaps it is because I discovered Led Zeppelin about the same time I first fell in love! lol w00t


myLot reputation of 92/100. firstcontact1990 (1273)   ranked 8 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I suppose. I think its jsut I have a strong opinion about what I like. I know what music I like, and what I dont, but I will admit, I do respect all the guys from Zeppelin...


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Music is very personal. The root word of music is MUSE....to think. I guess that's why Zeppelin is my favorite....their songs make me think.


myLot reputation of 92/100. firstcontact1990 (1273)   ranked 8 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

Oh and, you cant say Led Zeppelin is the first Metal band, because Jimmy Page is a great guitarist....He has never classed himself as Metal anyway


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  3 years ago

I was going by several radio stations that have, in the past, had promos asking that very question. It's all a matter of the perspective of the listener, don't you think?

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7. SkylerD (66)   2 years ago

Im a Diehard fan of both bands, but my vote goes sabbath. Yes zeppelen had a heavy powerful sound from the get go but when you think of zeppelen you think magesty and imopsible mistical lands, not to mention the strong sexualy that comes along with every zeppelin record. However when you think sabbath you think of dark, grim figures hiding under your bed and lurkin in your closet. You think of ozzy and you think of upsidedown crosses, virgin sacrifices and wild madmen that bark at the moon. Listen to the song Black Sabbath of the record Black sabath with the lights turned out and tell me that you dont feel and evil presence. The song Black sabath is based on the tritone, a progression of notes that was belived in the middle ages to talk to deamons and bring satan to earth. and Because of toni iomi's factory accident, his guitar playing was heavily distorted giving a twisted sound that had never been heard before. If anyone questions, Sabbath was the first to create the sound that metal bads still mimic today.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  12 months ago

Which is why I prefer Zep.

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8. Cue1992 (23)   1 year ago

there is simply no way that you can classify led zeppelin as a "metal" band. that type of music really is more for hardcore bands like distrubed and KoRn. led zep made alot of great hard rock music like black dog and heartbreaker, but there are also alot of songs by them that are much more quiet and peaceful. fool in the rain, all of my love, and i got a woman are certainly not metal songs. as for black sabbath, they were one of the only bands in that period producing their type of music. they had more of a punk and dark image than led zeppelin's flowery spiritual image. black sabbath is much closer to the first metal band, but i'd still classify them as rock. led zep was way more popular than black sabbath, so i'd say they were more successful. but if you want to drop the metal label and just go with rock, the rolling stones were clearly the first great rock band, and they're still around today!


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  12 months ago

We were discussing FIRSTS, and the two bands you mentioned came around a long time after both Zep and Sabbath. I still believe that Zep and Sabbath were the forerunners of the Metal genre.

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9. mihalas (1)   1 year ago

i say BLACK SABBATH was more metal
ZEPPLIN was good hard rock


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 5 out of 72 in led zeppelin  12 months ago

happyI admit, Sabbath had a more 'dark' persona. But there are metal bands around now that do not have that 'dark' persona, like Metallica? Perhaps.

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