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laughterfromclouds (39)   ranked 1,492 out of 2,172 in christian3 months ago

Ok, here's another one that really upsets me. Apparently on Fox News there is a story about a 10 yr old girl who has been home schooled and local school authorities are pushing the courts to make her attend public school because she has become to sincere about her religion. I need to look up this story and get the facts. Something is just not right here. This family is going to be punished and put through this because they are trying to teach their child morals and someone says she is to sincere???? I just don't get it. I hope God continues to bless American and I hope American begins to bless God!!!

 
 
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kprofgames (1434) response was accepted on 9/3/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. andalond (3388)   ranked 1 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

I am going to look up the article too, ok here it is...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,545340,00.html

Ok now I understand it more, the parents are divorced so now the father who doesn't have custody is making this an issue. Since he is the other parent he is entitled to also put his opinion on how his daughter will be raised. I'm not agreeing with him but mainly that is what it's coming down to. glare Although as a child she is academically ok he is challenging the social environment in which she is learning. It's sad that if he is actually doing this to hurt his ex or cause problems he might end up regretting what he is doing.


laughterfromclouds (39)   ranked 1,492 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

Thanks for giving me te link. I will have to check this out. Although I disagree, I see now where the courts became involved. It was very disturbing when I first thought that the courts just stepped in because school officials did not agree. Thanks for info.


myLot reputation of 99/100. andalond (3388)   ranked 1 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

I don't agree in what the school officials say but it's obvious that the mother didn't produce an expert to testify on her behalf as to the advantages of being homeschooled. She just needs to get on the ball with her lawyer in presenting her case. I had a friend who got 50/50 custody with her husband and he had a say as to what schools she put her kids in. It is really sad because we have a case here of practicing religious beliefs, plus a parent having the right to have a say in their child's life, and which one has greater weight?


myLot reputation of 77/100. xfahctor (5130)   ranked 273 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

With as many issues as we are having in this state with education funding, I would think school officials would welcome more homeshcooling, it takes the burden off their own budgets, even if it makes them look inferior.


myLot reputation of 74/100. MachaMongRuad (149)  3 months ago

As far as I'm concerned, the practicing of the religion should be entirely up to THE KID. The parents shouldn't be forcing anything on her, whether it's forcing her to practice a religion or forcing her not to. As far as the educational issues are concerned, BOTH parents should have a say in that regardless of whether they're together unless there are extenuating circumstances such as one parent being abusive or negligent or whatever. When you harm your children, you lose the right to parent them. Until then, both parents should have a say in the education of their child.


myLot reputation of 88/100. lotterylover (4762)   ranked 61 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

I did not have to force religion on my children. They followed our example. The law says you can't spank your kids and look what we are getting for it. So we shouldn't be able to force our rules and regulations on them either. We should let them grow up and learn to do what is right on their own. When my children reached 18teen I told them their decision were their to make. I was not responsible for the decisions they made any more. While they didn't always make the right decision I did not interfere.


myLot reputation of 99/100. andalond (3388)   ranked 1 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

Ok so maybe I should have state practicing educational beliefs instead of religious beliefs. I don't remember if that was the issue here at all....

Either way I see it that kids that are under your household have to be guided. No you cannot shove religion down their throats but still if the parents are going to church are you saying that you should ask your child if they want to go? I am sure that kids around the world complain about going to school or the doctor but do we as parents say "It's ok....you don't have to go?" Each parent has their plan on how to raise their children: after school sports, music lessons, tutoring, dance lessons, and although the kids might not want to do it we have to remember we are the parents. Yes, we have to be examples too but one messed up parent might have realized what mistakes they are making so they would like better for their children. wink

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2. myLot reputation of 77/100. xfahctor (5130)   ranked 273 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

The establishment clause in the constitution, the part in the first amendment that mentions religion, was designed to protect religion from government, not to protect government from religion. This constitutes a clear violation of that, pure and simple. "congress shall make no law estabishing religion, or prohibitting the free exercize ther of...." It's pretty clear in it's language and intent.
And what gets me, is this is in MY state, my beautifull libertarian state. This violates not only the U.S. constitution, it violates article 5 of our state constitution:
" Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience, and reason; and no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his peers on, liberty, or estate, for worshipping God in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; or for his religious profession, sentiments, or persuasion; provided he doth not disturb the public peace or disturb others in their religious worship. Now, in the interest of fairness, the attorny for the girls father stated "My client is concerned because of the isolation that is borne of that and the lack of exposure to the broader culture at large," Donovan said. "People of different heritage, people of different culture, tolerance, group problem-solving, making friends, losing friends — all of the things that come with a public school education."
here is a link to the story:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,545340,00.html

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3. mdrgsm (59)   ranked 1,372 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

I haven't heard that story yet, I am a missionary in Ukraine so I have been out of the loop for what my country (USA) is coming to. I personally homeschool my child and before I left (last January) they (the Government) were trying to stop parents from homeschooling their children all together. Like one of you said before, its against our constitutional rights! We have a freedom of Religion and a freedom of speech. What other freedoms are they going to try to take away? How about the freedom to vote? Are they going to try to change it so we can't even elect the leader of our Country. Although some would argue that our government is already like that. Great post, very informative. Thank you. Have a Blessed Day

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4. myLot reputation of 68/100. faikeijames (183)   ranked 516 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

This whole situation is retarded. As mentioned from someone else, if he's doing it to hurt his ex, he's also hurting his child in the process. No one has the best interest of the children anymore...it's all about self...think about some of the school systems..like where where I live (DC Metro area).

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5. myLot reputation of 85/100. underdogy (318)   3 months ago

Aren't we free to choose what we would like to do with our lives? Is the little girl to obsessed with her religion that she needs to be sent to school? Freewill is what we have us humans. As long as you don't do bad things against people, as long as you follow the rules set forth by your country of residence, you are on the right track. Why would other people curtail you to do things you want if you're not degrading someone's life? Religion cannot save us, that is a given fact. But.. is being sincere about religion against the law? This doesn't make sense. Imagine, local authorities are the one pushing the courts. Are they out of their mind? Poor little girl and her family, I didn't know that for some, teaching a child morals is too sincere.

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6. myLot reputation of 87/100. kprofgames (1434)   ranked 981 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

I read that yesterday and was amazed by the judgement. I understand that father having concerns with homeschool - most of them that don't understand are saying it's not good enough to keep up with standards. However, this girl excelled in her classes, has extra activities, even sports so what IS the real issue here with the father?

The fact that a judge ruled that she attend public school to 'give her more exposure to choices' is pure BS. The fact that she has a Christian based curriculum shouldn't matter. If I where this mother sitting in a court room being told that MY child couldn't have a Christian education, I'd fire back that this is a homeschool issue. Then, I'd be enrolling her in a Christain school. Then let the dad complain about the high costs of tuition!!


laughterfromclouds (39)   ranked 1,492 out of 2,172 in christian  3 months ago

I like the way you think. It is a shame.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. LetranKnight25 (4132)   ranked 140 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

glareI read the story too, thanks for the others links. on one side, he is worried that his daughter might get to be an introvert and might have problem dealing with different people,sad thus she might be treated differently or maltreated her by other individuals her age. one the otherside, why the heck would he do this, using her daughter to simply hurt his ex, that's unfair i think..hate will lead to more hate and painsad

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8. myLot reputation of 88/100. EnglishTeaDuck (725)   ranked 488 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

Soin public school a child is exposed to more choices? And the teaching is completely unbiased and offers her own beliefs as an equal choice? For many Christians, I think maybe they homeschool their kids for the very reason that what they can be taught in school often goes against their own faith - for example evolution being taught as fact and creationism ridiculed etc

As someone who grew up in a Christian family, I was constantly told I believed it because I was 'brainwashed'. Actually, I have my own mind, and as I was not closeto my parents at all, I would be more likely to go the opposite way. I was taught Christianity, but I also studied other religions to degree level, and I choseto remain a Christian because the=at was the conclusion I came to.

I have known homeschooled kids who are not properly socialized and who are taught to be unaware of anything outside - but the majority I know are intelligent independent people who will choose their lives for themselves, with the foundation of what their parents have taught them. And surely that is what parents should do?
Give a foundation, and also bring the child up to think for themselves.

If she is up to educational standards, it sounds like the father does not share the same religion and is either prejudiced against it or is using it to get what he wants.

I thought so many people of faith home schooled in America that it would be kind of a non issue by now.

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9. boboguitar1 (45)   ranked 1,379 out of 2,172 in christian   3 months ago

I'm not a huge fan of religion. But this is ridiculous. This girl and her family should be allowed to be as sincere as they want towards their religion. There is no reason for her to be sent to school just because she truly believes in something.

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10. myLot reputation of 60/100. maryann82 (115)   3 months ago

as i've read from the article the father of "amanda" was said to have appealed to court due to the lack of socialization in the child's learning environment or homeschool and the court sent a guardian to check on the matter and the reccomendation of the litem was in favor of the father so the court ruled under using the facts the litem provided. What I don't understand is why the court have to mention that she (amanda) was too sincere with regards to religion didn't the court just violated a person's right to practice her religion. Education was the subject and they considered religion as an addition to their decision which is just way below the belt. If the court finds homeschooling as a way of depriving a child's social development then they shouldn't have allowed homeschool in the first place right??? and besides socialization skills aren't just learned in the four corners of a classroom as if they're trying to say you can only learn how to socialize in a classrom.

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