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myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com3 months ago

Google does not and will not index every article in Associated Content and other writing sites.
Michy had a discussion with a representative from Google in a closed door meeting, and she quoted the exact words of Google employee:
"Google looks at site map for pages, but can't index every page because some bad sites create millions of pages. It would choke google if every one was indexed. Sites with lots of pages, Google looks for signals of quality for the pages, usually in the form of inbound links from trusted places."
This thread was in the forum of AC.
Later on, Lyn Lomasi mentioned a few ways to provide back links to our articles in Associated Content:
1)Start a blog
2)start your own website
3)start a squidoo lens
4)submit to bookmarking sites like Digg and StumbleUpon
5)post on twitter
6)answer Yahoo answers with links to your articles as the info source (only when appropriate of course)
7)keep writing quality content and hope others notice and link back
8)submit your AC RSS feed to feed directories
In this case, I figure posting the same article in other writing sites do not harm the searchability of the article. It is likely that the article posted in Helium is indexed, while the same one in AC does not.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

If Helium and AC both have lots of articles wouldn't the same philosophy apply to both websites? I personally don't do any of that and I still get great pageviews. Maybe your seo technique is working for me. I can honestly say I get better page views with ac than I do with helium. Are you sure Helium indexes its articles? Maybe you are indexed because of seo with people pulling your article on Helium?


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Mommaj, Helium passive income is not based on page views only. It's based on ad revenue. So you have to write to those categories that generate more revenue. These are usually in the finance, career, beauty and style section.
I bet you can make more money in Helium if you write about sport shoes review. Everyone knows that sport shoes company advertise very heavily, and they are willing to spend so much on online marketing.
I think you make a mistake of assuming that Helium uses the same system of paying as Associated Content.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

I know they don't use the same system as AC for payment or I would be making $30 a month in page views. LOL I don't know how Helium pays, but I know it doesn't pay me much. LOL I will have to try different types of articles. I wrote a couple recently that I put on AC in the business category. Maybe they will do better. Although, I did add a couple fashion articles and I haven't seen much out of them. I guess it's one of those waiting games. I wonder if I have that much time. LOL













































myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

I'm really going to hit your head really hard! All the while we have been talking about writing about shoes!
People are more concerned about shoes, especially leather shoes and sport shoes, and luxury handbags. These are the two most popular subjects, and evergreen subjects.
I bet if you write more articles about insurance, and get your husbands to write about cars, these articles are the ones which will make big money.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

I'm not interested nor do I know much about shoes and handbags. I quit frivolous shopping when I got married. LOL I know what the brand names are for handbags, but I don't have a clue about shoes.

I need to add some of those articles to Helium from AC. We have a couple vehicle articles, as well as insurance and fashion. LOL


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

haha at least you know some brand names for handbags, I know nothing at all about handbags.
The only thing I can see about handbags is the price, and I always choose the cheapest one. I doubt I can write an article about choosing the cheapest bag, and make money from that article!
Since I dont have car, and dont need to bother about car insurance, I have nothing to write about these two topics either.
You have to remember to sprinkle the keywords all over the articles. Sometimes when you see that the advertisements don't match the content, you know that the writer does not know how to use the keywords properly, that's why the Google advertisement is so funny.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

AH, Yes. The advertisement on My aggressive behavior article. First it was child abuse, then tennis shoes. I think I saw a real estate ad. Go figure! It was really funny though with those advertisements. LOL

I will have to try after the kids go back to school to write some articles on autos and fashion. You will have to remind me what articles to write, you know I will forget.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

haha, that is to show you how to deal with aggressive child.
You should put on the running shoes and then go around to abuse that aggressive child.
I wonder what keywords you are using to create such funny ads?
Google Adsense is a contextual advertisement. That means the robot will base on the keywords to place the advertisements most appropriate with the content.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

There is no way they are putting the most appropriate ads with the articles. LOL Guess I need to work on SEO again, huh? I thought it was really good.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

haha, I doubt there are many ads about agressive children! I doubt there are many advertisers looking to buy or sell aggressive children. And there are not many advertisers looking to sell away parents who know how to deal with agressive children.
I guess if the advertisements on home insurance comes out as running shoes, then something is seriously wrong. Or your car article has advertisements about finding love, then your husband will knock your head very hard oh


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 3 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

They should at least pick the self help ads. Seriously. Do you know how many books are out on training children? There are evidently a lot of unqualified parents.

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2. myLot reputation of 82/100. unusualsuspect (2413)   ranked 153 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

"I figure posting the same article in other writing sites do not harm the searchability of the article." As i understand it, that's not exactly true. Several AC writers have said that multiple versions of the same article will affect you adversely. What you want to do is supply URL and lead in (summary, first paragraph, or some clips) that will lead the reader to your article on Associated Content. That's what's meant by inbound links. And that's why having a blog or other site where you can do that is helpful. Posting the same article on Helium does nothing for the one on AC. In fact, they will compete with each other. But it's up to you which of the two sites, AC or Helium, makes more money for you. I think that AC is worth far more because you get paid upfront plus PV bonuses, without having to go through the hoops that Helium puts you through.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Unusualsuspect, actually Michy had confirmed that duplicate content does not harm the page views at all.
What Michy did is to post the article in one place, then wait till the page views sort of peter off, then she will post in another place.
Actually only Google does not like duplicate content, the other search engines have no problem with duplicate content at all.
I also post the same article in a few places, and all are still generating income. I guess each writing site has its own internal linking method, that's why the page view does not really suffer.
Since Google does not index every article, it is possible that the article in Helium get indexed and the article in Associated Content is ignored. So if I upload the articles in three different sites, it is more likely that at least one article in a writing site will be indexed.

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. AnythngArt (1684)   ranked 6 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting the information. That makes me feel better about re-posting Helium articles to AC without changing them much. One thing to remember, too, is that Google has a stake in Helium so AC is their competitor. Google is more likely to reward (index) Helium articles as a result.

Is there a way to put your article into Google or link it? I thought I read about a tool where you could get your own article indexed, but I have long since lost the information?

Thanks, Scheng!
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myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Art, are you sure Google has a stake in Helium? I haven't read anything about it.
I only know that Google's robot will definitely crawl my blogs, since both are in blogspot, owned by Google. I see from the Webmaster tool that the robot crawls at least once a day, and sometimes three times a day. I put the Associated Content widget in both my blogs, so I guess there is no reason why Google fails to index the articles in AC.


myLot reputation of 99/100. AnythngArt (1684)   ranked 6 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

I thought I had read that on the Helium site somewhere, but I guess I could be mistaken or maybe I read too much into it. I think you have a good idea about posting your articles to your blog...I have a blog but it is all book reviews. Maybe what I should do is create a new, 2nd blog and start posting my articles there just for the sake of indexing...that way they would be guaranteed to be indexed through Blogspot.

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myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Art, I dont post the exact articles to my blog, I just get the widget.
I can't do that for Helium, because the widget in Helium only works for the first article in a title.
But for AC, you can get the code for the widget, then copy and paste the code in the html gadget in your blog. When readers click on the link, they will read the articles in AC.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. lynnemg (3590)   ranked 222 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

I also have articles on both sites, as well as Triond. When I am not experiencing writer's block, I do generally make more from AC, but also a good amount from Helium. Triond is the lowest paying site for me, but I have really increased there over the last month.
I really don't know a whole lot about how the indexing part works, but I do know that I have looked up my own articles and found them both through Google search and Yahoo search.


myLot reputation of 99/100. AnythngArt (1684)   ranked 6 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

For Triond, the articles/material has to be original right? No re-posting of Helium articles, for example?

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myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Lynnemg, it's great that your articles do not face indexing problem.
I dont normally check the articles using Google search or Yahoo search. I can see from the statcounter that my blog posts are generally indexed. And the stats in Bukisa also show where traffic comes from. Other than that, I dont bother to check each and every article posted in AC or Helium.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (2747)   ranked 157 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

oh that is surprising. i thought before every article of popular sites will be indexed. why not google make exemption. like they know that a site has all good content that they will allow its site to be indexed every page. cause it is really a waste if not every page will index just because they are avoiding those sites that has some bad content. it is not easy for me to advertise my blogs. and the other reason i have learned my way around on advertising like using the blogs and other sites like twitter.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Hotsummer, I think whenever there's a special event or something, there will be too many similar articles appearing.
For example, for a month after the death of Michael Jackson, so many articles about his death and rumors appear in Associated Content. I doubt Google wants to index so many similar contents. It will probably index the ones with higher keywords density or better content (determined by some methods that we dont).

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6. myLot reputation of 36/100. Laurie1986 (285)   ranked 585 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

This is really good information, thanks...although I thought all Squidoo pages were indexed? Wouldn't that "choke Google" by the same philosophy? Hmmm.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Laurie, I think if we avoid writing too much of the same thing, our articles will be indexed.
Since Halloween is coming, so many similar articles flood Associated Content. I think search engines will just index a part of it, and leave the rest of the similar content out.
After this, many writers will be writing about Christmas and buying cheap and affordable gifts for so-and-so.

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3259)   ranked 13 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com   3 months ago

This is very interesting because I would have thought that posting the same article to more than one site might limit your results since Google would not index both. With this logic though it would seem you increase your chances since not all pages on all sites will get indexed.


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

Hi Canellita, actually i dont find much difference in the page views for duplicate content.
I suppose the internal linking of the articles are different in each writing site, that's why the articles still make money.
I think Michy's strategy is workable. She waits till the page view for an article starts to wane, then she posts it in another writing site.
Some writers have a self-imposed three months gap before reposting the content in another writing site.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3259)   ranked 13 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  3 months ago

That is a good practice. I have only tried reposting articles that were not performing well.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)   1 month ago

Hmm... interesting revelation.
I thought that google will index all the content that is posted on AC.
Well, at least, now I know.

Thanks for the inform scheng1! happy


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  1 month ago

Google does not index all my blog posts too. Now I have to ping my older blog posts manually, and hope that the search engines can index all of them, or those with better seo.
And I have been spending the last two years doing nothing but creating backlinks. It's pretty tedious and involve searching for blogs and articles which allow me to link back to the url of the blog posts.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)  1 month ago

I am pretty new to this. So back linking is really important eh?
How does back linking your articles going to help boost the rating or rankings of your current article?


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  1 month ago

Backlinking serves two purposes.
One is that when the search engine spiders crawl the blog, it will follow your link to your blog. That is why I use the url of my blog, rather than my google id to make comment.
Some sites like Hubpages do not allow url in the comment, but there is a place to enter the website, so your name will be hyperlink. If you make ten comments to blogs or Hubpages, you increase the likelihood of search engine spiders crawl the blog, even a few times a day.
The second purpose is for the readers. They can click on your user name, and come to your blog.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)  1 month ago

oh... I never knew that it would be that useful.
Interesting. I may have to do some backlinking in my blogs as well.

Thanks for the tip!
lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1690)   ranked 4 out of 783 in associatedcontent.com  1 month ago

It takes me six months of blogging to understand the concept of backlinking. I heard of the term way back when I start to learn about blogging. However, I still did not get it.
Now I'm working hard to make my blogs PR up. Since I'm good at writing with seo techniques, I just have to work harder with the back links.


myLot reputation of 98/100. ahgong (3790)  1 month ago

ha ha ha ha ha... you are doing much better than me already!
I have been blogging for the past 4 years, and I still cannot fathom the concept of backlinking.
Hmm... looks like there is something new to do for this coming few months liow! lol

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