Codex Alimentarius (World Food Code) or Vitamins are dangerous to health  

And gentically modified foods? They have been ok'd for consumption without enough testing and research. Did you know some of your GM foods have insect DNA spliced into them?

It's about money....and the health of people is not considered. I think if there is no immediate harm that people can definately lay at their feet and say - AHA! this is bad, they sell it and hope the connection isn't made in twenty or thirty years. Maybe they hope they've made enough money to cover the law suits by then?

Or...it could be something even more sinister. They're hoping 2/3's of the worlds population dies so they can have it all for themselves?

There I go again with those darn conspiracy theories! Sorry.

I've been reading some on that issue. OH God, I don't want to believe it! I cannot fathom such evil as to have that be true. BUT...it does seem something is wrong with the picture, doesn't it?

It has been eight years...and on September 11th as I was driving...the radio announcer broke in and declared a moment of silence at the time the first plane hit. I cried. All over again, I cried.

Can one be a birther AND a truther? Yep....I'm just a conspiracy nut! No, not a nut... I just know WAY to much about how evil man can be.

No arguments there. We are two divided, though, the would-be patriots, truthers, birthers, conspiracy theorists, militia members, Constitutionalists, libertarians, pro-peace movement, etc. Christians separated from non-Christians, races divided--righwinger patriots are only seeing the problems now, and the leftists only saw them when Bush was in power. ...If you haven't already check out the book, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and watch Aaron Russo's "Freedom to Facism".
dr...

I just finished reading an interview with the author of the Creature from Jekyl Island... in pdf form. In this interview he explains how the Federal reserve works. Scary! Real scary. I am hoping many will read this book....and rise up as he suggested and demand some sense from our elected officals. I'm voting Ron Paul...he is our last hope in 2012. If we get to have elections in 2012.

You are right we are very much divided. That is why I post the discussions I do...to try and get people to see what is going on around them and stop this bickering over liberal vs. conservative, Christian vs. atheist etc. There IS room for us all to get along.

Indeed, t'is a scary world. Our own good intentions can lead to division. Our old loyalties and beliefs may (if we're willing to admit it) be misled and serve the elitists, and further serve to divide.... I, was very cocky in my younger years, and now and then that part of me still surfaces, but truth be known, I'm not much too sure if their are any "good guys" anymore--USA, Britain, "the church", "the conservatives", the "libertarians", the "progressives", Israel, etc.,--everyone's got an agenda, the elite/elitists/Luciferians/global bankers---call them what you will, control every nation, every large organization, and use/manipulate every ideology.
In the end, for me, there is praying, working, trying wake others (occasionally), trying to help where I can, drawing the lines as to where and with who I stand, etc. It's just frustrating to see how quick human beings will ditch... Take how powerful and strong the anti-war movement was when Bush was in office--now that the "other guys" got their man in office, you hear almost not a word from the (especially mainstream)liberals. Sigh, I preach to the choir, and oftimes repeat myself, I know. God be with us--and do it soon!!!
DR...

It is difficult to 'know' who to stand with. People can be and are by choice often wrong in their beliefs and thereby their actions. But with God, who is righteousness and holy...there is no shadow of turning. He does not change his mind. He does not make mistakes. How does he accomplish that? He is above time...he is not bound by the circle we are. He is able to see the beginning from the end.

He has promised to judge those who willfully and flagrantly oppose his revealed truth. I know you and others do not like to hear that. It is an awesome thing to consider. It amazes me, David....that there is such an outcry for peace in this world and yet it continues to get worse. Why? Because peace cannot be based on lies. Peace comes from truth. People reject truth and get real upset when they can't have peace. There is a scripture that says....that people will ask for peace and safety, and sudden destruction will befall them. Why would that happen? If you ask God for peace, whey would sudden destruction be given instead? Because human nature wants it both ways. They want peace but they want their own way too. What kid wouldn't love it if he got to have candy AND got to have his own way (misbehavior) as well? We forget that the law of nature is cause and effect. You do this, you get that. God would not be righteous if he stepped in and gave us that, without our doing this. He would be a liar....and that is not righteous.

Okay, I'm not going to debate with you about the nature of God, whom I'm sure we can agree is perfect and thus above mortal standards of understanding. I do raise an eyebrow at the assumption made about my beliefs in said deity. I do not question God... However, all religions, and yes texts, are fallible. That's a given.

REligions are fallible and texts can be mistranslated and misinterpreted.

I'm sorry if I've offended you. I was only trying to make the point that many do not want to hear that there is an absolute truth...and many, myself included often overlook that in our day to day lives.

No offense intended.

Oh, none taken!, and likewise I apologize if I've inadvertantly put you on the defensive. The only point I was trying to make is this, I have an "untouchable" faith with the divine (despite my twelve thousand two hundred and thirty one various faults) and I KNOW that there is a perfect God, that being said, I only suggest that none of us have a perfect picture/understanding of said being.

Where I think you and I disagree, and I think it's okay to do so, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's a matter of behavourial interpretation/understanding of said being. I do not believe that God can ever do an evil thing--or contradict Him/Itself--thus, I do not believe that God kills, judges, etc., --what I think is the truth, is that God through revelations and actuality presents us (so to speak) with truism (call them commandments, what have you) that when defied--separate us from God, Love, Truth, life and health. God does not, I believe judge us for doing wrong, no matter how despicable, for our very acts, will separate us from God, destroy our health and relations, and put us through Hell, certainly a proverbial one, and possibly a literal one--although, I, again expressing my opinion, do not believe in the latter kind. That's all I'm saying, but after all this hub-bub if you return to my very first sentence--I recognize that my opinions/ideas, amongst all others, could all too easily be false. Clear as mud?

I am glad that you are not offended. The nature of these types of discussion makes it difficult...as anyone's belief system is so very personal.

I would ask you a question; You have a strong belief in God, yet you dismiss the Scriptures ie. the Bible and what it says about him? You have made remarks that lead me to believe you do not hold to some pretty basic doctrines that have been taught from the Bible. Tell me further how you came to believe what it is you believe?

Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. In case you've not noticed my response pattern yet, I'm replying to your posts in reverse chronoligcal order--one of the end results of poor time management, a lot to do, little time, and a whole lot of accumulated junk mail and a whole lot of mylot postings...

It's been so long since we initiated this conversation, I'm almost wondering if it's prudent, in the interest of amicability?? (looking for better word there), not to continue, or to continue...

I'll continue a bit. One, I discovered a lot of historical things...Monotheism coming out of egypt (Amen Ra, [sometimes spelled Amon Ra], also alledgedly the source our use of the word "Amen"--a brief salute to Ra/Amen Ra/the Sun God/Sun of God), the founding of Catholicism and organized Christianity by the Sun(Mithras)-worshipping Constantine, lies and cover-ups carried out by the papacy/the jesuits/zionistic Jews and Christians--the infiltration of most organized religious/spiritual/fraternal institutions by Illuminati-Freemasons/Luciferians, the existence and outright denial of the gnostic gospels, the dead sea scrolls, the questionable and probably scandalous events that took place at the Council of Nicea--hand picking what would go into the bible followed by that tradition that God willed the bible to be created as it is--despite it's many mistranslations purposeful and accidental, several contradictions within its own text... and finally after wallowing through all the historical negativities, the discoveries of the universal truths taught by Yeshua/Buddha/the Druidic Elders, the Gnostics, several messiahs and prophets, Gandhi, and a very few contemporary humanitarians, and lastly, the surprising (in terms of what goes in the scientific community) findings of quantum physics that seem to suggest again and again to find hintings of a supremely intelligent force just beyond our reckoning. Okay, I really that was a hodge-podge-mish-mash of events, so I'll summarize the conclusions:
Everyone of any great spiritual value has taught us that Love, truth, and self-control are the highest of virtues (wow, my psychological mind just found the psychological trinity in those virtues-emotion-thought-and action, wow, that was cool),history reveals to us that the power elite have always used any and every institution to manipulate and control people. Sadly, people need some manipulation and control in order not to destroy civilization.
To narrow it down again, in the best way I can, using Christian metaphor. Yeshua said, "pick up your cross and follow me"--amongst other things he taught all of the above about Love, truth, and self-control--he said, "with faith the size of a mustard seed..." and he said to pray in confidence and present tense to the "Father". His whole life to us was the message, and yet as Christians, or would-be Christians, we fail all too often to follow him, instead relying on the Greeks or some pastor to tell us what he meant. Duh, in actuality, it's pretty easy to see, that going to church on Sunday (SUN day, Deis Solis--Mithra's day, not the Sabbath, Sabbado, El Sabbat--later changed to Saturday, SATURN's day), singing praises, and exclaiming "I'm saved" is just not going to cut it.

I've studied some of the Torah...Old Testament, using a Hebrew to English concordance. I've done the same for the New Testament and Greek Language. I find that there is wisdom in this. I try hard to find truth. And most of what you've stated there, I have found in that search for truth. Bottom line....despite the machinations of man and devil...truth and wisdom are available.

David....I'm not going to argue history, or faith with you on here. I believe God can keep His message pure and free from being twisted. He uses many ways to touch the human heart. He also uses things that happen to us individually, within our own histories. I know that the KJV is not perfect, but God is. And it is Him whom I seek. He wants me to find Him...so I will.

No arguments there. I don't see eye to eye with you on your beliefs, but I believe that, that's okay. Just remember, Yeshua said to pray in confidence in the present tense, or put in another way (psychology/quantum physics)we create the realities of what we believe--if we're lacking, seeking, wanting, needing something we may never have it because we're just as likely, more actually, to reinforce the lacking of the thing in order to perpetuate the lacking/seeking/wanting/needing.
"Look under a rock I Am there, look behind every tree, I Am there." --Gospel of Thomas.
"I Am that I Am" or "I Am who I Am" (depending on translation, O.T.)
In simplicity, it's about confidentally (faith) asserting the present reality. "God is."
dr...

You see...even in disagreement over details....human frailties and limitations really....God can break through and be known.

Yup. In a kind of a Buddhist sense, we'd get just about as close to knowing God as we could, if we could just shut our mind's constant chatter up. To put that in Christian nomenclature, that would be to truly practice that Corinthians styling of Love--"not judgmental". In a way the Buddha and Yeshua (I hate saying "the Christ"--my research points me farther and farther away from Pauline expressions and doctrine)were saying the same thing, only from different angles.

Human beings quibble over technicalities...but in the end...it is God's love and forgiveness, mercy and justice that could be known. If only we would allow ourselves to be open to HIM. My son was as good as dead...transplant team, liver specialists...all said it was a done deal...now he is home with me...no one can convince me that God is not responsible for his recovery. I would say God is good, even if it went the other way. ALL things work to gether for the good...for those who love the LORD! I hope to be able to share more with my friends here on MyLot...I am pressed for time right now but will be sharing more as I have time.