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Took the kids to the zoo. Autistic son had a really bad day! email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism3 months ago

He wouldn't walk. He wouldn't move. He sat down on the sidewalk and after a little started screaming. I coaxed him to move, but he would walk a couple of feet and start all over again. I picked him up because I thought he didn't want to walk. He still screamed and he added kicking to the tantrum. People were looking to see what the ruckus was and if I was killing him. I never once touched him in a negative way. I even tried the pressure hugging. Nothing worked. I am almost to the point of not wanting to take him into public. Unfortunately, I have to. I don't have anyone to leave him with and I can't keep both kids locked away with me. It's like having the worst two year old possible, 24/7. Any suggestions on stress relievers, disciplining ideas, etc. If you have an autistic child you know what I mean. LOL

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1695)   3 months ago

haha, those animals must be laughing at him oh.
Have you given him something to eat that produce so much tears? Maybe he swallows the tear gas accidently oh.
Maybe you can write one article to rant about a difficult and embarrassing day to the zoo oh!


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

LOL. He should have been in a cage on display at the rate everyone was looking and the way he was acting. I have had such a rough couple of weeks with him that I am more than a little frustrated. If I write an article about the zoo to rant, so much negativity will come out no one will ever read my articles again. LOL Don't want that, my pv are going up steadily. LOL


myLot reputation of 98/100. scheng1 (1695)  3 months ago

haha, I bet all those frustrated mothers will read your article gleefully oh, knowing that someone else is suffering with naughty kid as well.
I think putting him in the cage and asking people to pay for watching him is a better idea oh. At least you get to earn money out of his misbehavior, then you can buy ice cream and relax oh


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

I should call the zoo back and see if I can display him. Maybe they will pay me to keep him. That would be funny! Mostly, he is a good little guy. Sometimes...


myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3268)   ranked 383 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

Ooooooooooooh!


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

Well, you know, what do you want from me. If they had any sense they would put me on display to as the craziest mother. As long as they gave me crayons and coloring books I would be good. LOL


myLot reputation of 78/100. ongtina (183)   ranked 370 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

I like reading what you and scheng1 wrote. You can take the stress in such light hearted way and joke about it. Does scheng1 have autistic child? Did he understand what you went through?

Anyway, I think perhaps it's the smell. Autistic child can be very sensitive to many different things. Mine is sensitive to sound, some, to touch, so I guessed yours is to smell. There is a strong smell in the zoo. I remembered that on following the class to an excursion to the zoo.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

If scheng has a child she hasn't mentioned it. LOL I think she is just young at heart. LOL

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. msfrancisco9369 (2136)   ranked 45 out of 387 in autism   3 months ago

They really reacted differently in places with so many people and other new stuff that they see like animals. They are not scred but they just act out and there you go mama all the best that you can do to pacify your child.

In my case when he's into that mood, i give him the pressure hug and give him a massage. I kept in whispering "iloveyou" and "behave my dear son" these calms him down. Massaging him from the shoulder down to his arms, hands and fingers. He loves to be massages. He too wants me to do slight scratches on his head.

Before leaving the house we do a briefing where we're going and i tell them what kind of activities they can do. I works. I used to bring them (2 special sons) in the office when i am in the process of looking for their caregiver. They are so behaved. They know that they are inside an office and they have to behave well so that they will not disturb my co-workers. Now when we're in the mall and especially in the park they are free to move---they can play, laugh aloud and even run.

Next month there is an exposure trip in my kids school and we are going to the Ocean Park and the Avalon Zoo. I will share with youmy experience after this activity. They are so excited and even counting the days for that event to come. I am hoping that they will be fine and enjoy the fieldtrip.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

Unfortunately, I can talk to my son and tell him what is going to happen, and I do, but he doesn't understand and he still acts without inhibitions. I tried the squeezing and the massage at the zoo as he was having a tantrum and that didn't work. Usually holding him makes things better but it didn't. I couldn't imagine asking him to sit anywhere and wait until I am through. I know at this point that won't work. I am hoping he just isn't "old" enough yet. He's four with a mind of an 18 month to two years old. I don't like the schools they have here because they aren't preparing him for anything. I wish I new of somewhere better. I guess it is all still new territory.


myLot reputation of 98/100. msfrancisco9369 (2136)   ranked 45 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

My eldest is 13 years old and my youngest is 9. We also had so many out of control experiences but therapy and the school interventions played a great role in their development. He's still young and early intervention will really help him. I can feel and understand what you're going through sometimes it's so frustrating but hold on my friend you are the best teacher and care provider for him for now. i hope you will find the right school for your son. Thanks for this sharing. I love listening and sharing with special moms like you (YES WE ARE SPECIAL TOO-GIFTED AND BLESSED for having the heart to take care of our special kids). I consider discussion like this as a support group discussion here in mylot!


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

I believe it is important to share on here. I have learned a lot from others on here and hope to continue. I am hoping that we will be able to get the help he needs.


myLot reputation of 98/100. msfrancisco9369 (2136)   ranked 45 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

That’s true. Sharing is one way of unloading/debriefing our loving sentiments in taking good care of our children.

I am advocating for a caring and positive environment for our special kids and those who are physically and mentally challenged. Since I am into training consultancies—I always find time to brief people about autism. It's amazing that despite the Autism Society's efforts and advocacy there are still so many people who are not aware about this.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

I am actually a little surprised at the autism society. I don't see where they are doing much in our area. You never hear anything about it.


myLot reputation of 98/100. msfrancisco9369 (2136)   ranked 45 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

at least here in our country Autism Society of the Philippines is really active as it relates to their advocacy. But we do need more financial support to finance further activities to make their programs and services nationwide. They have regular trainings for parents, caregivers, mall service crew and staff, security guards, food chains, etc. i am happy about all the efforts that they are doing but people are just this "i don't care attitude"...


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

That's great that they are reaching out to the community like that. I haven't seen anything like that here. I know what you mean about the attitude. If it doesn't affect the person on a personal level they just want you out of their way. They are too busy for it.


myLot reputation of 98/100. msfrancisco9369 (2136)   ranked 45 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

...and i don't care either, as long as they will not hurt my kids i am fine. i don't care if they will make faces at time when my kids are having their moments, as long as they will not comment anything or else-- i will get back to them!

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. suzzy3 (3995)   3 months ago

Go to the doctors and beg for help .tell him you cannot cope full time anymore.You need help get a friend in.I see my friend fall apart sometimes and it is horrible to see.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

Your poor friend. I wish her the best. I don't want to see my son on mood altering medications. Although, I may need to start taking some if he doesn't. He sure can give me a fit sometimes. It's nice to know he does it at school too because I thought he was just doing it to me to see what he could get away with. LOL I picked him up from school a while ago and the teacher said he did that off and on all day. I hope this stage passes.


myLot reputation of 95/100. suzzy3 (3995)  3 months ago

Just remember he is still young,one day he will be bigger and stronger than you.My friends son has hit her.I do think it might be better if you let him have some drugs to calm him down he might even thank you for it,as he will be able to fit in better.I am not talking about filling him up so much he cannot think straight.I really advise you to talk to your doctor.Take care he is a lovely lad I can tell that.

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3268)   ranked 383 out of 387 in autism   3 months ago

Wow, you poor thing! I guess you had a tough day, huh? And on top of everything else you have going on you must be at the end of your rope where he is concerned. I wish I had some suggestion to offer you but I really think you are going ot have to enlist the aid of a specialist for this. Every child is different and what works for one parent has nothing to do with you and your family.

Your son is getting older but as you said emotionally he is still years behind. You need someone who can assess him in person and monitor his progress and help you come up with a plan.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 months ago

The worst part is we have meetings all this week so I can't even fit an appointment in. He is acting the same with the teacher though, so at least I know it isn't something I am doing. LOL The teacher said it may be a phase and to ride it out. I can only hope. He is getting more verbal though. He will recognize some animals, but it is always on his terms. You can't ask him and expect him to respond.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3268)   ranked 383 out of 387 in autism  2 months ago

Well verbal is verbal so eventually he will get there. Didn't you say your daughter is into things on her own terms as well? Sounds like stubborn runs in the family!


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

LOL. Stubborn does run in the family. He has been saying little phrases and such, so I know he is starting to talk.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3268)   ranked 383 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

Get him some talking toys and a leap pad.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

He has all kinds of talking toys. In fact I need to buy more batteries for a couple of them LOL.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Canellita (3268)   ranked 383 out of 387 in autism  2 weeks ago

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5. beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism   1 month ago

Does your child stim? I recommend always carry a small fan with you...or a pinwheel...anything that spins...toy helicopters are great. Your son may have had a melt down because of the crowd, autistic kids don't like to be around lots of people. Was he interested in the animals at all? Mine isn't, but recently he has developed an irrational fear of snakes (I think he had a nightmare, and just after we got rid of the bug phobia too....darn it).


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

LOL. Everyone stims, even me. I don't think anyone notices though. Thank goodness. I don't have autism though. LOL

As for my autistic son, he does the handflapping. Sometimes it's play for him. He has even gotten to the point now that his two pointer fingers are people and they talk to each other. Sometimes I can actually understand what is going on. His teacher said that isn't a common autistic trait. He has found a way of relating himself with other people and he expresses it with his hands. Sometimes he will use only one hand and that represents himself and he will actually interact with you. I think his stims are a good thing. So far he isn't "hyper" that I can tell. What would give it away?


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Oh, for the question about the meltdown. He just got tired and probably a little hot. Once we left the zoo I gave him a drink and he was fine. He just didn't want to be there I guess. He also fell asleep in the car on the way home, so I am leaning towards tired.

People don't bother him. He usually doesn't notice them. That I am glad of so far. We go to the zoo, the library, the store. I try to take him out as much as possible. He may have classic autism, but there are some things that he doesn't exhibit that goes with it. Usually he will just walk along with me through anything. He likes affection, he just won't give it back. Let me know about your son.


beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

RED RUM! RED RUM! hehehe sorry. That finger thing just reminds me a little of The Shining. You would definately know if your kid is hyper. My kid is anxious about crowds. When we are in a crowd he likes to make really loud "notice me" noises. I think he thinks the odd looks are a good thing. He is a total people watcher, and if someone is doing something really loud or flamboyant, you can bet I will be seeing it for months or years to come coming from him. He likes affection only from adults he knows and small children. He is very drawn to babies and toddlers, and they can't escape his company without at least 3 hugs (whether they want them or not).


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Wow that's cool! My wouldn't hug anyone! He's hugged and kissed me only a few times in his life! My son won't look at people. Is your son on the less sever end of the spectrum. It almost sounds like territs. Sorry for spelling. With all the autistic children I have been around, I haven't seen any that "notice" people. I guess they are just more severe? I don't know.


beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

I thought he had terrets also, but the teachers and doctors say he doesn't because he seems to be just copying sounds that he likes. He doesn't maintain eye contact when he talks to people, except when he is pushing buttons and he knows it. He has been diagnosed with aspergers syndrom, which is a little different than classic autism. Everybody feels that he will eventually be able to function normally....I sure hope so.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

Aspergers is a little different. It will be okay, he should be a fully functioning adult. It's hard as heck going through it until he gets to that point, but he will get there and you will be sad to see him leave the nest.

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6. beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism   1 month ago

Regarding the mood altering medications.......it sounds like you and I have a similar problem, my son also has ADHD. Does your's repeat everything back to you, or request things the way you would ask him? ie. instead of "I'm hungry" it's "Are you hungry?" I was very, VERY reluctant to put him on meds...but consider this: Your son's hyperactivity and moodswings could be interfering with his ability to learn how to properly communicate and learn life skills. I finally caved and put my son on medication for hyperactivity (ritilin, of course), and it is like he is a different child...still autistic...still has his own personality...but calm. He has started asking what and who questions, has started following the plot in movies, has started playing nicely with his toys (not just breaking them for fun and bad attention). If you think life is hard now....just wait till you gotta take the lil guy to the dentist! (that sucks royally!)


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Oh, geez. I so need to talk to you. How old is your son? My son isn't really hyper. He will listen. He doesn't really repeat what you say to him in that manner. He picks up songs that way though. Including the beat. It's weird.


beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

All autistic kids have different behaviors. My son is 7 and has always been very very hyper and destructive. It sounds like your son doesn't have ecolalia (repeating back). Mine does. He can recite commercials and movies per betum (sp?) He also makes franken-toys. He takes apart his toys and builds new toys. One time he turned a plastic childrens' desk and a toy trap drum set into a functioning gas pump.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Maybe he is just a genius and doesn't know what to do with himself. That is so great that he talks. I am still waiting.


beckysue12121 (25)   ranked 227 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Yeah, that's my theory too:P. He just has a lot of trouble with appropriate behavior and social situations (and he has selective hearing*snicker*).


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

Do all kids have selective hearing? Actually, I think it may be inherited. My husband has the same problem! LOL

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. charblaize (434)   1 month ago

My son done that before at the Zoo, amusement park even just local stores. Many times, it is because he was hot, tired and tooo much stimulation. If there is alot of commotion, activities or such going on, it is hard for his brain to tolerate and take in. I literally had to put him down, wrap my legs around his and wrap my arms around his arms. Then he would still hit me with his head, but I wouldn't let up until he calmed down. I hated those moments!! At the same time, I would humm to him. There have been many days I wondered why I would go somewhere with him, though, I know he is going to have to learn to be in public and hopefully calm down.
I never wanted to give my son medications but it got to the point he was failing at school, having more issues at home and I knew I had to do something. My son is 6 and many times I feel he is going on 3.
good luck to you


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  1 month ago

Oh wow! I am so lucky then. He has only had that type of fit once but we were at home. He didn't try to hurt me or himself. I held him like a baby and kept him from kicking by holding his legs. He cried for awhile, but he settled down and it was like nothing happened.


myLot reputation of 96/100. charblaize (434)  1 month ago

Not easy, but atleast he is unique in his own way. maybe one day me and him will learn together how to deal with issues. Right now it is just trial and error.


myLot reputation of 96/100. mommaj (1077)   ranked 9 out of 387 in autism  3 weeks ago

That's all we can do until there is a reason for this and a way to control it.

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