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myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1360)   ranked 616 out of 6,342 in politics4 weeks ago

I was in a lively debate with another member about the Israeli/Palestinian situation. It got me to wondering, do the Palestinians really want their own nation or do they just want to get rid of Israel, or do they want both?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1824)   ranked 526 out of 6,342 in politics   4 weeks ago

I think that this depends upon whom you ask, frankly.

The more moderate among them would probably settle for the two-state solution. As long as they can run their own lives, they will settle for Israel being next door (though the tension will not go away completely). The borders and resources (particularly water), and the fate of Jerusalem would be the major issues to resolve.

Among the radical Islamists meanwhile, reclaiming the complete land, eradicating Israel in the process, is the only acceptable solution. This was the position of Hamas until very recently. There are contradictory noises coming out of their camp these days (idealists against realists). What will happen, we will see.

In passing, there are also still some Israelis who want a one-state solution, called Israel and running all the way from the Jordan to the Mediterranean.


myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1360)   ranked 616 out of 6,342 in politics  4 weeks ago

You're probably right about it depending on whom is asked, but I don't think Jerusalem will be on the table, as far as Israel is concerned. I can't see them giving up any of that city.


myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1824)   ranked 526 out of 6,342 in politics  4 weeks ago

Hi,

agreed Israel will not want to discuss Jerusalem, but the Palestinians will (see your question's wording). This will undoubtedly be a very difficult issue to resolve.

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2. myLot reputation of 73/100. bobmnu (2647)   ranked 189 out of 6,342 in politics   4 weeks ago

Isreal is one country while the Plestinians have one government and many many different factions with each one wanting something different. It owuld be like the police in any large city sitting down with one gang and trying to end crime and make peace with all gangs. It can't be done - how do you stop crime when the very basis for the gang is crime.


myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1360)   ranked 616 out of 6,342 in politics  4 weeks ago

So you don't think the Palestinians will give up their hatred of Israel in order to have their own homeland?

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3. myLot reputation of 46/100. Makro74 (101)   ranked 856 out of 6,342 in politics   4 weeks ago

I think the question is what does Israel really want, if it has not had its cake and eaten it! And I think the lively discussion was with me and another member - you seemed to walk away from arguments put to you and instead created another area on your own terms.

Remember - WMD score - Israel 000's, Palestinians 0 - no contest no brainer
No's killed score: Israeli 1 killed for every 100 Palestinian
Land grabbing score: Israel since 1947 Israel has 75% of all land in the Palestinian territories.
Use of human shields: Israel occupy civilian homes to shield themselves then blame Hamas for firing. Hamas still hold back, but Israel will fire into civilian populations.

Facts are on the ground - no need for rocket scientists to work it out, no need for a person to be a christian or a Muslim or even a Jew to see what is actually fair and where the condemnation should harshest. If we move away from the political allegiances and purely for the sake of humanity, we would condemn Israel and the IDF for it WAR CRIMES, and back the Goldsmith report, recognise that Hamas are no saints but be fair to a population of Palestinians who are caged in at the mercy of Israel in a form of ethnic cleansing.

Arguments often are presented that Israel is 'attacked' and acts in self defence. These brainwashing reports can never be justified if all people were given free access to the reports of actions of the IDF, the women and children which are mercilessly murdered but covered up, the TERRORIST actions of individual soldiers from the IDF. I mean if people knew some of the harrowing stories, the majority of the human loving public would have an outcry against, not the JEWS, but Israel and the practices in the name of self defence.

Unfortunately, the Western governments will attempt to hide most of this information from its populations but it exaggerates any kind of RETALIATION with which little means the Paletinians have in the interests of the nation supporting Israel. It is unfair and unhumane.


myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1360)   ranked 616 out of 6,342 in politics  4 weeks ago

You're right, I did walk away from the other discussion because none of us were going to change the others mind. As far as this discussion goes, you didn't answer my question. Do the Palestinians want their own homeland?

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