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myLot reputation of 81/100. sincere4frdship (1184)   ranked 1,798 out of 19,259 in questions & answers 3 years ago

Will a hot air balloon still rise if the surrounding air is the same temperature ?

I am not able to assume .... can you help me out ...

 

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1. myLot reputation of 87/100. beatrizguiselle (495)   ranked 1,506 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   3 years ago

Interesting, using bacis physics, i would say it would rise to a certain point, then just maintain itself suspended in the air.


myLot reputation of 87/100. beatrizguiselle (495)   ranked 1,506 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  3 years ago

ohhh, hot air ballon... Duh sorry i was thinking about other ballons, yes it will rice since the heat insite is blowing it up. and if it was the same temperature.... Well it will just burn down dont you think? considering the temperatures are the same, now we would hav to think about the air. since inside the ballown hot air is basically blowing upwards likewise inflating the balloon


myLot reputation of 81/100. sincere4frdship (1184)   ranked 1,798 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  3 years ago

I didn't get you ....

can you explain ?

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. poona_m (305)   ranked 2,397 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   3 years ago

air when heated becomes lighter. When we heat the air inside the balloon it becomes lighter and the total weight of the air and balloon compared to the same volume of air outside becomes lesser. and that is the point at which the balloon starts to rise.

Therefore,

Weight of hot air + weight of Balloon < Same Volume of Cold air outside = Balloon Rise.

The weight of Balloon alone is always more than the air so it cannot rise on its own.

When the air surrounding the Balloon is at the same temperature as the air inside the balloon then the weight of Balloon and air inside will always be more than the same volume of air outside. Hence the balloon will start to drop down.


Therefore the balloon will not rise if the air inside is at the same temperature as the air outside. Else why wouldthe air inside be heated at all....?


myLot reputation of 81/100. sincere4frdship (1184)   ranked 1,798 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Thanks for your response ....happy


myLot reputation of 97/100. agonyaunt69 (212)   ranked 1,012 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  3 years ago

poona_m,

Your answer is very clear. Thank you for reminding me on this. I gave them all back to the teacher. lol

I asked my husband about this question. He immediately gave me the answer as yours. I like men who are good at science. They are smart and usually calm!!! :D

Have a good day!

agonyaunt69
(12:30pm Wednesday 2 Dec 2009, Hong Kong time)

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3. megalotti (80)   ranked 13,840 out of 19,259 in questions & answers   3 years ago

I sense a conflict in the question.
How can the surrounding air can be the same temperature inside? They heat the air trapped in the baloon till to 100 degree celcius. Well no living creature can stand so much heat :) If air is cooled down to the surrounding temperature; before it gets even lets say 70 degree closer to surrounding temp, just begin whispering every pray you know and try to wear your parachute immediately.

The answer to your question is simply and definitely NO it can not rise under the circumstance you've cited. In fact it dives through the earth! As a mylotter mentioned up above clearly, the reason for heated air is to create a bouyant force similiar to Archimet's water rules.

And a baloon can not rise endlessly. Low pressure up in the very high altitude tries to squeze down the volume of the baloon, hence lower volume means lower capability to carry, even though it would be much hotter than the air outside.


myLot reputation of 81/100. sincere4frdship (1184)   ranked 1,798 out of 19,259 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Yes ...answer given above is really worthy ....

Thanks happy

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