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myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships 2 years ago

Here I go off on relationship stuff again, sorry, it's what my mind is on right now. sleep

Major communication problem here. I'll say something and he'll agree with me. Then later I'll say I've reconsidered and maybe it's not such a great idea. And he'll agree with me. And when I ask why did you not speak up to begin with, he'll tell me he didn't want to upset me. He wanted me to be comfortable. He wanted me to be happy.

Well, darn it, am I such a controlling, narrow minded, unreasonable, opinionated person that you can't tell me honestly what you think? Maybe there's a grain of truth in that, but I think a lot of that has to do with HIM coming from something in his background that just doesn't like conflict.

I understand that. I don't like conflict either. I don't like to deliver bad news. I don't like to hurt people's feelings. Boy has this gotten me in trouble in the past.

So now I mostly speak up. Sometimes it kills me, but I do. And when I don't, cus I'm not perfect and I haven't totally gotten the hang of this yet, it usually comes back and bites me.

Problem is, he still doesn't speak up. And then I find out later that he didn't agree with a decision and it's built up inside and now he's all bent out of shape about it. He says he's going to speak up, but he really doesn't.

I'm timid enough about speaking up as it is. I don't need somebody who is even worse at it than I am.

He thinks I want somebody who just goes along with me. I don't. I want somebody who can disagree politely and criticize kindly, but I don't want somebody who is incapable of disagreeing until it's reached a boiling point.

Nope, not what I want, not what I need.

Dawn's journey of personal growth continues, but where is Richard? lol

 

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1. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   2 years ago

sighs and hugs ya........................


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

hehehe aha look who's lurking! :-)


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  2 years ago

yea....well....just dumped ya a load via email..........lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

okee dokee

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2. myLot reputation of 94/100. learn2earn (16936)   ranked 296 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

As I read along your discussion, I agree with you that you need someone or most of us need someone who can tell us honestly what may be wrong or right in certain decisions that we make. I think that the guy you have doesn't enough backbone to stand up for himself. When you'll be together, it will be more difficult since you will be making the decision and not him. What a shame for a man to just along the flow of water. I hope you'll make the best and wise decision.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I don't know if it's backbone or what it is, but it is so darn aggravating to think that we've agreed upon something only to find out 6 months later that we really didn't.

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3. myLot reputation of 75/100. sulynsi (691)   ranked 2,132 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Hi Dawn,
I hope you don't mind, but I think it might be wise to back away slowly.

Certainly, give it much more time, and a wider berth.

There are two unpleasant possibilities: He's hiding the truth or he's damaged from a previous relationship in life. Neither of which bodes well.

Then again, he may be an absolutely wonderful guy!confused


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

he doesn't have a previous relationship, what he does have is a bend over backward to please everybody all at once mother...

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)   2 years ago

Awww Dawn herehugs
What the heck..just tell him he is an idiot and he won't mind.rofl


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2681)   ranked 449 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I have often slagged off my hubby's parents (justifiably so, in my opinion, as they treat him like a child at times) and he just looks at me! Never agrees or disagrees. Most infuriating!glare


myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)  2 years ago

Wow that is very infuriating Janey..but you know it is a losing battle slagging off any of theirs LOL


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

i told him the counselor said he was being a d*ckhead and he actually agreed with that...


myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)  2 years ago

Well then he knows he is doing it then Dawn so he is excelling in it hahah xoroflsad


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

It's like a dang yo yo....

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. tamarafireheart (13724)   ranked 3,280 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Hi dawnald,



Hde doesn't want a conflict, so he is in hiding, lol! but my hubb don'at agree with me all the time, so we have a barney, then later on, he realize the I was right in the first place, I am right about most things in this house but he likes to think that he is, but if your hubby agree agree with you all the time, he is just trying to please and that is not the answer and sooner or later it will come to a boiling point of no return.


Tamara


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

a barney? confused


myLot reputation of 98/100. OceanTiara (6977)  2 years ago

Hhahh Dawn!
Excuse me for interceding Tamara in your absence but a barney is a fight Dawn..English saying haha xohugsI love you Dawn!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

thought so!


myLot reputation of 96/100. tamarafireheart (13724)   ranked 3,280 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Hello dawn and oshy,



Thanks oshy for clarifying that, yes a barney is just one big argument and then we move on, never last five minutes, and then we are ok, I always ends it by calling him a silly old bas***d, lol!. He is seven years younger than me.


Tamara

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. Hatley (48771)   ranked 215 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

hi dawn sounds to me like a desperate man trying to hang onto somethinghugs that it seems to me is rather dead now. this is sad but you need to stick up for yourself.Men, they want you to be happy then they do that kind of stuff. I think most of us dislike conflict, as I know I sure do but when you are unhappy enough in a marriage I imagine you are going to have to stick it out somehow, Sooner or later his anger will build up again and then what? I am beginning to think you two really need a quick clean cut, then continue to be friends but again I am no marriage counselor either. good luck and God Bless.hugshugs


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

A quick clean out lol
Actually he's been pretty much like this all along, long before there was trouble...

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15797)   ranked 20 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

It is the "Yes Dear" syndrome. Smart husbands just say this phrase instead of starting Any conflict.But I would say the ame thing if every time I voiced my true view and it gets demeaned. have you ever asked him his true opinion and when he gave it , you insulted it? If so, he has learned that you will Always hate his view so why voice it. I would have felt the same thing! i would stop giving my view too. Yes dear is safer. why waste your time and breath if he isn't going to heard or understood.For me it wuld only take one time. One time of feeling that my view will be demeaned for me to Never voice my opinion again.

But if you Never demeaned his opinion, then it could be that he has no opinion either way. He is assuming you will make up your own mind in time.I never knew this until recently but some people just want a sounding board. I am more like men . When I hear a problem I think quickly how to fix it. my sister told me some women just need someone to listen only! He could have assumed you needed to figure it out yourself.

The problem is you may never know.If he is just trying to please you , he may Never tell you his true feelings about anything.


myLot reputation of 90/100. TigerSpirit (176)   ranked 5,043 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

'It is the "Yes Dear" syndrome.'

The TV show "Keeping Up Appearances" comes to mind. lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Well you may have hit upon something here. I'd say we have both demeaned each other's opinions at one point or another. It didn't start that way though, and the "yes dear" thing started before that, I'm pretty sure.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15797)   ranked 20 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

If it started way before his opinion was trashed , then maybe it is his way of supporting your view, whichever view. He may not have a view either way. Or he will avoid a conflict by any means necessary.I want to say sit him down and talk to him but I fear he will Still say yes dear!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Sometimes he doesn't have an opinion either way or doesn't feel strongly about it, but other times it comes back at me months later. Those are the situations where I need him to speak up.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15797)   ranked 20 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Of course! I have Always had opinions on everything , since birth! so it is hard for me to understand not having a view. somehow He Has to learn how to tell you his views . I wish I knew how to get him to do that!

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8. myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 3,211 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

Logic tells me there is one way out - force him to express his opinion first. Instead of expressing your opinion and asking him what he thinks, state the case and ask for his opinion before revealing yours. That should lead to a discussion where you can pose alternatives.

Men! You have to treat them like children sometimes.


myLot reputation of 90/100. TigerSpirit (176)   ranked 5,043 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Or he could end up revealing a poker face because he doesn't know how to answer, so he comes up with "I'll have to think about that one."


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

I seem to recall I've done this in the past and gotten "what do you think"? But I guess I could just not tell him until he's told me his opinion.


myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 3,211 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

Yes - just the same way we teach our children to think for themselves.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

True, like I handle it when they're trying to get me to tell them the answer to their homework!

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 6 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

It is scary in a way not to be able to have an honest discussion. Just as bad would be any time you would criticize he would then start to kick himself and say what an awful person he is. Been there, done that. Right now, I am in a place where I can express myself, say what I think, listen, and sometimes agree with the other opinion, and sometimes be a meany, but apologize later, etc. In other words, pretty equal give and take, and it feels really good. Hope you can get there with someone, somehow. It is good to have two adults in a relationship.


myLot reputation of 90/100. TigerSpirit (176)   ranked 5,043 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

"Right now, I am in a place where I can express myself, say what I think, listen, and sometimes agree with the other opinion, and sometimes be a meany, but apologise later..."

Ditto here too.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

have you met him? this is exactly what he does....


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 6 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

This was my first husband, love of my life, other half of my soul. He got sick and died about the same year I had decided I had to do something to change it. He helped me out, and the year he was sick was really very healing for us both. It is a rough way to get it fixed though.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. TigerSpirit (176)   ranked 5,043 out of 19,197 in relationships   2 years ago

And this is why I'm still single! LOL

It's bad enough when I'm of two minds.. the last thing I want and need to deal with, is an external 3rd mind. They wouldn't know which of my two minds to agree with which would only send them mental. lol


myLot reputation of 95/100. cloudwatcher (4168)   ranked 3,211 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

You only have two minds?
I usually have several and have to weed them out gradually.
Thankfully, the right one usually comes out on top.


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 50 out of 19,197 in relationships  2 years ago

A third mind that yo yos me around and is very confusing, I might add...

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