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myLot reputation of 52/100. Fortunata (945)   ranked 659 out of 3,985 in politics 2 years ago

sadI am troubled over the way Obama is treating Israel. Why is he doing this? I have never heard of a president treating a head of state the way Obama has treated Netanyahu. It just seemed petty and childish of him not to have his picture taken with Netanyahu, and then to churlishly inform that he was dining with his wife and children, and just leaving him by himself to be really bizarre behavior. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. I can't remember even Yasir Arafat being treated shabbily by past presidents, and that guy was the head of a terrorist state.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 35/100. Netsbridge (1897)   ranked 784 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I think the president may after all know the truth about dynasty Israel! And as per bad presidential treatment: I think I remember that we badly treated Mourmar Ghadafi!

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2. myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

No, I've seen no indication that Obama is an anti-semite. Maybe Netanyahu's treatment was payback for the announcement that was made while Joe Biden was over there which only served to stir controversy.

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3. myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

You are ignoring that the Palestinians and all Arabs are also Semites. Now if you asked is Obama anti-Jewish, and would answer no, just more even handed than most other US President.
As to the treatment of Netanyahu I think Obama was wrong for not taking a photo with Netanyahu but not a sign that he is anti-Jewish. It is possible that Obama opposes Netanyahu being President of Israel.

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4. peaseniz (89)   2 years ago

I think it is being read into way too much.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. veromar (849)   ranked 372 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

Hi Fortunata. I do not think that President Obama is an anti-semite. I think it's more the fact that he deals with Israel differently than past presidents. The U.S. has been a staunch supporter of Israel for as long as I can remember, much in disregard to other middle eastern countries. Personally, I've never understood our (the U.S.) need to coddle and carry Israel. I'm sure there are several reasons unknown to us citizens that will probably never be known but I'm glad to see him broadening our communicative efforts with other countries in the region. Some see Israel as a nation that will fall without our support. Others believe it should fall. I'm sure the historical relevance of Jerusalem plays a very large part in it all but don't find it personally important. As far as U.S. middle eastern policy goes, nearly all leaders have or were considered heads of terrorist states. Have you forgotten Saddam Huessein? How about the Shah of Iran? Our dealings with most countries of the middle east were either about oil, preserving Israel or expanding our interests. As far as Netanyahu goes, he made some comments that were considered disrespectful to U.S. interests, hence Obama's snub. Obama has made it clear that he's not going to carry Israel as past president's have and Netanyahu's comments were a direct reaction to that. Just my personal observations. It's going to be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out that's for sure.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. hofferp (2894)   ranked 23 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I don't think Obama is anti-Jewish or anti-Israel, but the "discussions" going on right now are certainly not helping the cause for peace.

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7. myLot reputation of 22/100. kennyrose (5047)   2 years ago

Israel has always been the United States strongest supporter in the middle east.
Could be as our other strong supporters around the world watches this play out they may have their own concerns can they any longer trust the United States.
China and Russian are in bed with Iran and they all are pretty cozy these day's.

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8. myLot reputation of 53/100. Makro74 (200)   ranked 744 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I thought it was the other way around. Netanyahu is treating the US badly. What is there not to understand? US wants 0 settlement activity in East Jerusalem - peace talks depend on it. Netanyahu slaps Joe Biden and then Obama by two respective announcements on settlements - a direct challenge to the US standing and mutual respect with Israel. Why would he do this? Why does he need to rock a boat which is safe and sound? The US give $2.76 billion in aid to Israel. Is this what it gets back?

But more alarmingly - actually it is typical around these debates - the Jewish bandwagon of anti-semitism starts sounding. This is a pure political fall out with a nations who are friends. But the US is a donor, and Israel like a small brother. Therefore, this question should never arise.

Israel however, MUST refrain from its arrogant stance. It has been like this with its neighbors since has had all the WMD - but it is trying to push its luck with the US. This is the problem of overwhelming support to an unneedy nation, we should be aiding the democracy and not the arrogance!

Moreover, this should be true for any nation, Israel is under scrutiny because of it stance and not because of its Jewish roots.


myLot reputation of 69/100. JerusalemFolk (2424)   ranked 209 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I think the main purpose of Obama is to be reelected, and I don't think 77% of the American Jews is going to vote for him like last time, because of his strategy of confrontation with Israel.1. He criticized a leader elected by the rules of democracy, Bibi, and he is completly silent about a dictator like Achmadinedhad. The worse ennmy of Netanyahu is not Iran or Syria. His worse ennmy is the far-right faction of the Likud. Bibi wants to win the next Primaries of the Likud and therefore he cannot be leftist like he was in 1996-1999.2. The last time Israel gave territories, the general Sharon deported all the Jews of Gaza, and what did we get? Peace? No, an Islamic Republic of Palestine in Gaza lauching Iranian missiles Graad to Ashkelon and Ashdod, killing innocent people, and helping the Hizbollah's Katyusha in the North. When the Nazis lauched V1 and V2 missiles to the UK, the RAF completly destroyed Dresden, Berlin, and other German cities.3. Like I said before, the Israelis never see the colour of the $ 3 billions from the US, this money is used to buy the best American weapons. The USA wants a peace treaty, but at the same time the Military Industry from the USA is interested to have more wars in the Middle East.4. Also the biggest ennemy of the Muslims is corruption. I work with Muslim doctors and nurses in the Ministry of Health in Jerusalem. They don't want to be paid by Hamas or Fatah, corrupted organizations who don't pay the salaries like in Africa. They prefer to be paid by the Israeli Minister of Health.5. This morning the Syrian dictator Assad said to President Sarcozy he is not ready to sign a peace treaty. The muslim dictators don't need a peace treaty . They prefer to say that all the corruption in their country is because of the Jews, or the Americans. What they call the little Satan and the big Satan.


myLot reputation of 53/100. Makro74 (200)   ranked 744 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

You make some valid points about the Arab leaders, and to some extent the comparison of Dresdon. But, you fail then to place the Israeli government in the same fray. Two wrongs never make a right.

Hamas was also democratically elected by the people in free and fair elections. Hezbollah has been holding Lebanon up socially and economically. Why cannot you understand that Hamas and Hezbollah need not exist if Israel only backed off and gave the Palestinians autonomy and jobs and trade. The people of Palestine would respect the Israeli nation and notions of destroying Israel would vanish and marinilise and weaken those who advocate such policies. It is the very action of Israel and this overstrong arming, that draws sympathy and strengthens the hand of these groups.

Remember, the PLO was the main front, this was largely weakened with Arafats death, Hamas got stronger. This will continue, as long as leaders like Rabin do not reappear in Israeli politics. He was a peaceful man, but assasinated for his efforts.


myLot reputation of 69/100. JerusalemFolk (2424)   ranked 209 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

I am sorry but Adolf Hitler was also elected by the German democracy.
And yes if the Hamas is elected in the Judean Desert, we will have the iranian missiles Graad on Jerusalem, the national airport, and Tel Aviv. Like the Nazis before, the Muslim fanatics from Hizbollah and Hamas write explicitly in their Chartes that they want to exterminate the Jews.
Of course some Muslims believe in the real Islam, an Islam of Peace and that is the reason why we have Peace with Egypt and Jordan.

I have also the impression that the press in UK succeeded to brainwash the English population. Hamas was not elected by free and fair elections, the friends of Fatah were tortured, shot in the legs, amputated of both legs. All the Christians and the Fatah members were kicked out of Gaza. Hizbollah brings money from Iran and is manipulated from Iran. That is not fair because the shiites are a small minority in Lebanon, according to the British journalist Tom Friedman.


myLot reputation of 53/100. Makro74 (200)   ranked 744 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago


Democracy - do you forget Mechin Benin? Their terror tactics is what created and maintained Israel the state of Israel in its early inception. King David hotel is conveniently forgotten, the massacre of Palestinians in 1948 because they resisted force to Israeli forced evictions, evidence of Israeli terror lies in the refugee camps created by these forced evictions.

Of course, we can cherry pick on the shortcomings of both Hamas and Iran, but Israel has a lot to answer for when it comes to human right violations.

Far from understanding mere factual evidence, I have the impression that many in Israel are brainwashed and educated to love the Jew and hate all others. I mean, rather than be arrogant and play on the sympathies of the West due to the holocaust, the Jew should promote interfaith and a willingness in intergrate with the world. This is the fundamental problem with the political Jew. Everything against is anti-semitic, but everything for is taken as their God given right!

What you must understand is, all people of all faiths, have wives, husbands, daughters, sons, brothers, mothers, fathers and children, to whom they are loved and want to live in peace. Do you not understand, that you people, with your spacious homes and luxuries from the American taxpayer, want to live in peace with your own love ones, but create hell and misery for the Palestinians. What kind of justice is this?

Palestinians are people, Hamas are an element of that - if you love and cherish your neighbours excluding the likes of Hamas, you will find that anyone trying to destroy you will not be supported simply because they will see the peaceful nature of the Israeli people. Phosphorous munitions and F16's are only used by cowards, againsts a relatively unarmed population. And by using WMD, it only strengthens the resistance. If only Israel could fathom this concept since Israel has so much material power, it just needs to be responsible.

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9. myLot reputation of 3/100. 3oooof (104)   2 years ago

Nobody knows, because he's being purposefully vague about EVERYTHING!

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. mariposaman (2607)   ranked 1,055 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I think they are out of sorts because of their disagreement on Jewish "settlements". Previous presidents supported Israel almost unconditionally and let them get away with anything. I think Obama sees the "settlements" as a snub so he decided not to indulge Israeli transgressions.


myLot reputation of 52/100. Fortunata (945)   ranked 659 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Thanks guys, for your comments. However, I think it's wrong to treat a head of state like dirt, no matter what. Obama is really starting to look like a rank amateur. It's sad that nobody will take him in hand and steer him in the right direction on protocol. Maybe they want him to hang himself?


myLot reputation of 53/100. Makro74 (200)   ranked 744 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

It would be nice if you could respond to comments separately, since you started the discussion.

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