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myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics 2 years ago

March 23, 1933 - March 23, 2010 "Coincidence"? I think not.
On this day in 1933, Hitler signed into law the National Law for Removing the Distress of the People bill, aka Hitler's Enabling Act.
On this day in 2010, Obama signed into law the dreaded, abominable forced "healthcare" bill.
The parallels involved are horrifying and very dark. In each case crisis-manufacturing, "healthcare protection", vote manipulation and strong-arming, enemies lists and scapegoating, environmental/green issues, jobs, and Constitution shredding were in play.
For your own edification and understanding of what's at stake, go to CanadaFreePress.com and read Dr. Laurie Roth's article of 3/27/10 "Hitler's and Obama's Health Enabling Acts."
What's occurring is way more than enumerated therein. This is not just "history repeating itself" beacause we have failed to learn the lessons thereof. It is about all of history, as in the "story" from beginning to end. Many of you know Hitler was a student of the occult and that's just the tip of the iceburg re the "culture of death", suicide bombers, the Hitler/ Grand Mufti connection (see atlasshrugs.com), and so much of what is before us as history speeds rapidly ahead and the current "american president" remains a man shrouded in darkness and deception.
I say all this not to start a polemic and not as a "scare" tactic, but as a way of hoping for truth and enlightment in a very dark place. Those of us who know Revelation know that the good guys win. Be one in your own best interests. Yes, I know, it's your choice, so be sagacious. It counts.

 

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tags:  ludicrous comparison, comic genius, hitler, humour, infamy - march 23
 
1. myLot reputation of 87/100. jb78000 (3486)   ranked 80 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

epicure

hitler = pure evil, responsible for the deaths of millions

obama = average us president who some dislike.


why do you keep doing this epic? do you have an image of a 'baddie' and all who you don't agree with are the same? personally i have no great affection for obama or bush, or any other us figureheads in recent years but they are nothing like hitler. closer would be the likes of mugabe.


myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

jb7800, Why do you keep doing THIS? Obama is in no way an "average" president. I can't deny you an opinion, but it is a FACT that in no way is he either "average" or president. NO American President in EVER refused to properly identify himself through his vital records, shredded the Constitution, called our military "terrorists" and refused to call terrorists "terrorists", flew a plane low in the NY skyline to scatter us like ants, declared this a Muslim nation, disrespected and dishonored all of our allies while bowing to enemies, and the litany goes on ad nauseum. Even if he were president, he would not be an average one but a POOR one, just for spending us into the ground in order to bankrupt us.
There's the rub, jb, you keep denying the facts and an "established pattern of conduct." No leader anywhere is perfect and without infraction, but this dark deceiver, arrogant and proud, who clearly likes to be worshipped, is more than halfway to the same evil end as H. How can you deny truth; what has he to hide in his vital records? NO PRESIDENT IN EVER HAS KEPT HIS VITAL RECORDS SEALED AT A COST OF MILLIONS TO THE TAXPAYER. Average?


myLot reputation of 87/100. jb78000 (3486)   ranked 80 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

yes. and your definition of 'facts' is an odd one. ok, you don't like the president your country voted in, so don't vote for him next election. he is NOT however anything like hitler and saying he is simply makes your arguments look hysterical. many people in europe find this offensive, not because we are fond of obama. personally i don't care if you call him a lump of poo. but because we know our history, and may even have family who were affected by what hitler did. using this to criticise a president you don't like diminishes the real horror of what happened.

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2. myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6797)   ranked 458 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

Excellent, I salute you, you are a comic genius! And I love the way you pretend that you are serious in this ludicrous comparison, it nicely heightens the humour. Have you considered a career in writing comedy for television?

all the best urban


myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

urbandekay, I am serious and so are many Germans, Russians and others who have lived under oppressive regimes and recognize the signs. It's always easy to say "sorry" after the fact, but wisdom dictates being prudent BEFORE evil is accomplished. I'd say "laugh, clown, laugh", if it weren't so pitifully sad and dangerous to keep ignoring the "writing on the wall."

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3. myLot reputation of 63/100. Latrivia (1976)   ranked 226 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

Hitler died decades ago. He's not coming back. The only person LIKE Hitler, IS Hitler. How many president's have we had that have been likened to Hitler? Quite a few. How many turned out to be just like him? Zero.

When Obama starts throwing people of a specific race or creed into death camps, then we can start making Hitler comparisons. Until then, he's just another crappy president.



And just because I can't help myself...

OMG - Hitler had a wife. Guess who else has a wife?


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 137 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

It isn't a specific race he's going to throw into camps...but I guarantee you, those FEMA camps are there for SOME REASON.


myLot reputation of 63/100. Latrivia (1976)   ranked 226 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

When Bush was in office, it was said they were there for those who opposed the war and the administration's effort to seize control of the government.

With Obama, it will be for his detractors.


The reason I don't take beliefs like the OP's seriously is because I heard the exact same stuff before - only it was years ago in reference to Bush. "Bush is going to establish martial law before the election so he doesn't lose his presidency", or "Bush has war protesters locked away in FEMA camps", or whatever other odd conspiracy theories people could cook up. People compared Bush to Hitler, too. Bush never turned out to be the next Hitler, and none of the doomsday stuff about Bush ever came true. I sincerely doubt it will come true with Obama.


myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Latrivia, I believe debrahkcarey is correct. I must remind you, camparing people, ideas, or things does not mean they are EXACTLY alike, but that there are striking similarities and a similar root cause. I doubt anyone can truly deny that Obama is an arrogant self-worshipper, devout deceiver, and total liar. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Hitler was Hitler; Obama is Obama, both represent(ed) darkness and evil intent.


myLot reputation of 63/100. Latrivia (1976)   ranked 226 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

No, it means there's similarities. A lot of people have similarities to Hitler. If you looked hard enough you'd find one in yourself.

Comparing a politician to Hitler has only one intent: to strike up fear in others. It is not a rational comparison, simply a effort to go in and cherry pick similarities between the two so one can give the impression that the politician in question is somehow LIKE Hitler. It's a fear mongering propaganda tactic. No one wants to listen to a fear monger, except for those who want something to fear. If you did not mean to make the point that Obama and Hitler are alike, you wouldn't have even mentioned Hitler's name.

I would agree that Obama is a liar - but he's a politician, and a human, so that's to be expected.

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4. myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 91 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

When your around, my vocabulary seems to grow and grow -
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/polemic
Main Entry: po·lem·ic
Pronunciation: \p?-'le-mik\
Function: noun
Etymology: French polémique, from Middle French, from polemique controversial, from Greek polemikos warlike, hostile, from polemos war; perhaps akin to Greek pelemizein to shake, Old English ealfelo baleful
Date: 1638

1 a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy —usually used in plural but singular or plural in construction
2 : an aggressive controversialist : disputant

— po·lem·i·cist \-'le-m?-sist\ noun

Goodness. I had to add that because SURELY I can't be the only one lacking in the vernacular happy
In response to your actual post, I do see some eerie similarities. There are differences but you bring up some very good points. I know people are insinuating that you are being extreme, but they have to keep in mind, this is just the beginning! It ain't over yet!


myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

Oh, laglen, thank you for your kind response and your sage observation. Many in Germany and the world were apathetic and complacent while their "savior" planned evil, and that, sadly, is what is happening here and now. No one will be laughing as this escalates; as you say this IS just the beginning. No one wishes to be the bearer of ill tidings, but that will be the expected end, an arrogant, deceptive megalomaniac in control of those who refused to see the writing on the wall. Every detail and action will not be exactly the same ( as some have written who wish to disparage the truth), but the darkness and removal of freedoms, constitutional protections, and a dictatorship will be inevitable IF America does not rally quickly. AFTER THE FACT will be too late. Those who have lived in Germany and Russia know the signs and have warned and written books about such oppression. Take heed.


myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 91 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

And once they have sufficiently disarmed us and made us completely dependent, that is when it will hit and it will certainly be too late. I will die gripping my gun!

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5. myLot reputation of 90/100. bulastika (867)   ranked 3,965 out of 3,985 in politics   2 years ago

I don't get the relation between does law passed. First of all Hitler has manipulating the politics back then. Germany back then is not as a democratic country as U.S. today. Second. Healthcare bill maybe advantageous or not is passed to insure United States can take care the health issue and the same time have money to survive the crisis and mounting debt.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 137 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

If I am remembering correctly...Hitler WAS elected by the German people. He came into office legally and with much backing...almost cultic backing as I understand it.


myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 127 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

It's been a while, but Hitler was appointed Chancellor, not elected by the people.


myLot reputation of 100/100. astonysh (4492)  2 years ago

Debbie,

in the two elections in 1932 the NSDAP got 37 and 32 percent of the vote respectively (hardly unanimous support).

Hitler never won an outright majority, rather he headed a coalition with the help of a manipulative Catholic politician called van Papen (who eventually ended up being made Nazi Ambassador to Turkey for his pains). Even so, there was stalemate in the Reichstag, and another election was due to be held in 1933 to sort out the situation, which again the NSDAP were not guaranteed to win. The signs were that their popularity, if anything, was slipping.

After the Dutch Communist Marinus van der Lubbe (who may have been, unknown to himself, been used by the Gestapo to carry out the job) had set fire to the Reichstag, Hitler declared a state of emergency.

At this point parallels between Hitler and Obama go out of the window.

1. Following Hitler's decree all political parties except the NSDAP were banned. The leaders of the Communist, Social Democrat, and a number of other party leaders were arrested. Most of them ended up in the first concentration camp, a place called Dachau of which you might have heard (I have actually visited the place, not somewhere I would recommend anyone else to visit).
Last time I checked in the USA, the Republican Party was still open for business, all members of the opposition political parties were still at liberty, and I am extremely certain that they will remain at liberty as well. The chances of Mitch McConnell or John Boehner ending up being arrested for their political beliefs are as close to nil as it gets.

2. Following Hitler's decree, leading writers and artists who were opposed to the regime were also arrested, or driven into exile. All media outlets opposed to the government were commandeered or closed.
Last time I checked Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck were still at liberty (and are likely to remain so), and media outlets like Fox News and the Washington Times were still doing normal business. That is not likely to change either.

3. Following Hitler's decree, the democratic process (meaning elections as and when required) was abolished.
I am absolutely certain that the congressional elections due in the US will be held on the schedule this year.

For information - Hitler was elected President by his own party in 1934 when Hindenburg died. At that point, they merged the offices of Chancellor and President.


myLot reputation of 31/100. epicure35 (1464)   ranked 1,155 out of 3,985 in politics  2 years ago

astonysh, I so appreciate your diligence in researching and reporting the details of history; we are painfully ignorant of same and do need to know. However, the point of comparison of similarities is just that - not that two people or instances are EXACTLY the same,- but that the spirit, intent, and machinations are at root the same. How this point of history will exactly play out, only God knows for sure; however He gives us wisdom, revelation,and discernment so that we can understand what is before us, and, indeed learn from the lessons of the past. I do not think we can ignore what is happening or be facetious and nonchalant at this juncture while IN FACT our freedoms are being corroded and our Constitution and protections shredded. The root cause is EXACTLY the same power-mongering, corruption, and great darkness.

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