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myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs 2 years ago

I rescued little Roxy just after Christmas 2009. I thought she might be anything up to a year old but she is still behaving like a young puppy...taking socks and shoes to chew, playing happily with soft toys, digging up the garden.

The problem is a bit complicated. At first, I expected her to poo and wee on the carpet in the loungeroom. It's where most pet accidents have happened. (Luckily, I can put the rug in the tub and wash it and hang it out to rinse with the hose and dry in the sun.)

I had been feeding her regularly with the other pets and then I would take her outside, even though sometimes she would eat very little or nothing. She would neither do a poo or a wee. I would also take her out before bed & again first thing in the morning. Sometime during the morning I would find a poo on the rug every 2 or 3 days. She quite often will not eat her breakfast but she is gaining weight quickly.

I began to put her outside for longer periods. She would run around, have a dig, talk to anyone passing by and be happy. There is always fresh water in the shade for her and she enjoys chewing leaves, and sticks etc. If she does a poo outside she gets this jaunty little happy walk afterwards as if she is very pleased with herself. Her stools are normal and firm & not smelly.

Today, she has not had brekky or done a poo. She is crying every now and then and I'm guessing she is constipated. I caught her the day before yesterday peeing on the mat and I called sharply to her but she didn't stop. She watched as I soaked it up. Then yesterday, I caught her doing a poo and again I called sharply to her but she did not stop. I've noticed when she does a wee it is bright yellow and she rarely drinks. My ideas are leaning towards her former owner scaring her whenever she went potty inappropriately so now she gets to the stage where she is afraid to go and so she gets constipated, so she doesn't eat or drink because that makes it worse. I think by calling to her I frightened her and now she's afraid to go.

It's either that or she maybe has something wrong with her bowel or bladder. I know I should take her to the vet but she has come along so well and I simply don't have any spare money at the moment. I have some big bills coming up and then I will be able to take her to the vet.

Any ideas?

 

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tags:  puppy, crying, add squash or pumpkin, age, constipated
 
1. myLot reputation of 58/100. tessah (3120)   ranked 699 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

this phase may happen with children as well.. it did with mine (thanx to her older sister telling her that the bugs in the bathroom would eat her toes. so she was afraid to even be IN the bathroom causeing same outcome) you can try to do what i did with her.. with a twist.

with the sprite.. a friend had me give her coffee. it made her go whether she wanted to or not.. and i was able to prove to her that it was OK and no bugs were gonna eat her. but getting her to that point was a frigen adventure lemme tell ya.. she was tryin to go with her feet up as igh as she could hold them (which. at 4 years old.. theyre rather flexible little dickens, so she had her legs up round the back of her head >.<) but i digress..

with the puppy..

i gave my dog one of them "gormet" doggie biscuits you get at the conveneince stores. the ones that look like donuts made with peanutbutter and oatmeal?? and i swear that dog left land mines from one end of the house to the other!! try getting a few for yer pup.. itll help lossen up her insides a bit so she HAS to go regardless.. and you can show her its OK to go and she wont get abused for it. if shes more comfy being outside and out from under what she feels is a scathing eye.. maybe let her be outside more and more until her system gets back on track thumbup

i wish ya luck


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I make their food with oats. I haven't seen anything like what you mention around here. I wonder if I can find a recipe online?

She's a little sweety of a pup, very loving and gentle.



myLot reputation of 58/100. tessah (3120)   ranked 699 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

critters and people arent much different really. they made need different things to get same problems taken care of.. but what it boils down to really.. is everyonem critter or human, gotta eat and gotta poop to be healthy. with people its easier to retrain yer body, we are more intelligent in some aspects that we can be told something and understand what needs doing.. and do it. you cant tell the mutt that shes gotta get more fiber and should try to go at same time everyday to retrain her system back to rights. but you CAN observe her actions, as youve been doing, and you CAN try to systematically get her on a schedule to well-being. feed her foods you KNOW she will scarf down.. and mix in some fiberish stuffs with it to get her system cleaning out. im sure they have recipes online for them biscuits.. really not sure if it was the oatmeal or the peanutbutter or something else in them that made mine go like crazy.. but something did. i found them at a cumberland farms.. dunno if you have them where you are. worse comes to worse? i pick you up a few and ship em out happy cant hurt to try either way


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I'm travelling to see Dad in a few weeks and I always visit this huge pet store for supplies...I'll see what they have. She ended up eating her food a little while after I posted the discussion, then about 3 minutes later she went to the door so I let her out. She did her business and she obviously felt much better. I was making her up a small amount of peanut butter, rolled oats and olive oil at the time but she hasn't eaten it.

When I got her, she didn't behave like an animal who had gone hungry. She was just very skittish. She's a lot happier now but still tends to be easily jumpy. She eats regular food at regular times ...sometimes she eats, sometimes she waits till the others are finished. Sometimes she will barely nibble at her food then an hour later when I look the bowl is clean...the other dogs are not around when this happens so I know it's her eating it. I read up a bit and she gets plenty of fluid within the food I make her. When I give her dry food only, half the time I wet it.

I'm beginning to think it is her early conditioning that's causing her to be this way. It's just a matter of time I reckon till we get things sorted and on an even keel. Thanks so much for your thoughtfulness.hugs .


myLot reputation of 58/100. tessah (3120)   ranked 699 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

i hope she continually gets better and more at ease with you. happy as atentive and loving as you are, im sure she will thrive in no time


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Hi Tess, just thought I'd let you know...shortly after this discussion we got things sorted pretty quickly. She won't eat until the other dogs are fed. She doesn't eat all her food in one go. We've only had one accidental little dump on the carpet because she either goes out or if the door is shut she lets me know she needs to go out.

She's still really jumpy and fearful with sudden movements and loud noises and the training to obey a command is barely happening but there is a glimmer of hope and the realisation has finally come to me that it not gonna happen overnight.

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2. myLot reputation of 45/100. jea_pinka08 (108)   ranked 6,857 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

Give her a spoon of sugar. That's what I do when my puppy does like that. If it didn't work kindly take her to the vet. That's the only thing that you can do. Consult the vet.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I don't give my dogs sweet treats as it is bad for them and rots their teeth. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean when you say "does like that" what are you referring to?


myLot reputation of 45/100. jea_pinka08 (108)   ranked 6,857 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Constipating! That's what I mean. You don't need to be afraid sugar i only a medicine for constipation for dogs. If you want, after you give him sugar you brush his teeth. :)

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   2 years ago

I would firstly be concerned about something medical. It just doesn't sound normal. I'm concerned about irregular bowel movements, and the crying, not drinking and bright yellow urine. My first thoughts go to diabetes. I'm wondering if you know anyone that is diabetic and if you could test her blood sugar with their unit? You might do some research on canine diabetes. Good luck, be thinking about ya.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

She did a poo within half an hour of me posting the discussion. Her stools may be too hard because she doesn't drink. I'm guessing she cried because the too dry stools were moving inside her. It's possible that she is unaccustomed to drinking because water has never been readily available. I don't know of anyone handy who has diabetes, but I will check online for other symptoms.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 1,080 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

Hey MsTickle! I think you may have diagnosed Roxy's problem on
your own! She may have been an abused dog and if what you say
is right then she may be afraid to eat or drink for fear of
having to pee or poop! I think she is scared and you have to
be very gentle with her! She needs to feel loved and made to
feel not afraid when she goes to do these things even if it is
in the wrong places until you can train her to do them in the
right places! She really sounds like she was abused and I feel
so badly for her! And you are such a sweet and patient lady so
you know how that goes! Maybe with time and patience you can
teach her to go where she needs to and do what she needs to do
without the help of vet! I think she just needs some nice quiet
and caring help! I know that you can help her!


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Thanks Opal honey. Roxy is a darling lil baby and she's very sweet with a lovely nature. I have been reading responses and thinking and I have come down to the fact that Roxy doesn't drink enough. This may be the crux of the matter. I'm hoping I can fix things soon before Winter sets in so that she can dash outside and go and dash back inside where it's warm.

She is a lot more sure of herself than she was and a lot less skittish and she gets very excited when things happen which was not the case at first. But - she still gets scared very easily when she's not sure of something. Like a sudden move or sound. I'm confident that all that will change though. Thanks for those lovely words of encouragement and support. hugs


myLot reputation of 99/100. bunnybon7 (7725)   ranked 5 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

coco wasnt trained when i got her. but luckily i had a doggy door and another dog that showed her how it worked. plus my son said to clean any mess with vinegar. they wont go back there then. of course now she hates any smell of vinegar but it all together worked and i never had to yell at her just say quitely bad girl, go outside.lol


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Yes, I think they learn from older dogs but mine don't drink the water inside very often...cos they are mainly outside for one thing.

I wonder if sprinkling vinegar on my rug will work?? The only thing is, I don't particularly want my lounge room top smell of vinegarsad


myLot reputation of 99/100. bunnybon7 (7725)   ranked 5 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

after a few minutes the smell usually goes away for us. but they can still smell it. i would just wipe up where she did it. i hope your puppy is doing better these days. ?


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

It's only by accident I found this bunny...there was no alert for it. I have just given some feed back to the first responder, yes, things are much better. I'm hopeful that every day lets her feel safer and more loved and trusting I'm also hopeful that eventually we will get to her coming when called everytime, not just half the time and that we will be able to take happy walks on the lead. It's not going to happen quickly.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. bunnybon7 (7725)   ranked 5 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

sad this is quite scarey. did you try praising her when she did it outside? ive often wondered what to do if a dog gets constipated. once coco had a bad tummy and i took her to the vet just in time. they never said what it was cause they couldnt find a blockage, but they did give me something to keep her tummy settled for a while and antibiotics.suspicious i do hope she will be ok and you get some answers here.sorry


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 334 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I guess the vets around here have people give their dogs canned pumpkin with their food. It does not hurt them, is very nutritious and is high in fiber.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Oh yes bunny, I praise her but she is obviously feeling really pleased with herself when she goes...she has this jaunty air about her. At least their is no blood in her stools so it is not terribly serious.

GG, I've offered her my roast pumpkin skin when I've finished my dinner and she's not fussed. She's not too keen on her veggies, she always leaves a few peas, pieces of corn and also pieces of carrot when she has her dinner...lol


myLot reputation of 99/100. bunnybon7 (7725)   ranked 5 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

suspicious i wonder if she would drink more if you put a touch of chicken broth or something like that in her own little water bowl?


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

It's only by accident I found this bunny...there was no alert for it. I have just given some feed back to the first responder, yes, things are much better. I'm hopeful that every day lets her feel safer and more loved and trusting I'm also hopeful that eventually we will get to her coming when called everytime, not just half the time and that we will be able to take happy walks on the lead. It's not going to happen quickly.

I'm taking more notice of the water bowls around the place and the one's she has sole access to are being used and I've seen her drinking from the house bowl. Things are moving slowly and we are both happy with that. happy

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 334 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

With the bright yellow urine I would say dehydration. I have read the responses through the first page, and I see that you think what I think, which is constipation. Around here the vet recommends canned pumpkin in dog food for this situation. My cats, if you remember, craved butternut squash soup, and I gave it to them. It does the same thing. My cat that tends to have "accidents" in one particular area is the one who cried for the squash. He does not leave me those surprises any more if he is getting squash or pumpkin. Peanut butter might help lubricate her bowels.If she does not drink water, perhaps some broth or soup would get her to drink enough to help with the problem as well.If she is feeling bloated she just may not feel like drinking.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I make the dogs a mixture of meat, oats, barley, and vegetables with some concentrated soup for flavouring. There is about 4 litres of water in the mix and when I dish it up with the dry food I mix some water with it to bring it to room temperature. I think they still need water. Tess mentioned some oat and peanut butter dog biscuits which I've never seen and I've never seen canned pumpkin either. Or butternut squash soup. I could give it to them if I could make it fresh.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the dehydration...that's causing her stool to be dry and then it hurts her.

I mixed her up some peanut butter, oats and olive oil but she had just eaten her breakfast...then she went outside and did a poo.

I'm thinking I have to figure out a way to get her to drink fresh water...on its own, not mixed with anything.


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 334 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

My cats eat the fresh squash soup that I make for hubby and me. A little salt in her diet might make her crave fresh water.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

I've done some reading GG and she is getting plenty of water in the food she eats...she is not dehydrated. She actually took a drink of water about 20 minutes ago, it was just 3 laps but it was something.

I think I'm back to trying to correct any abuse or inappropriate training she has received previously.


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35328)   ranked 334 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

The way you described her food, it did sound like plenty of water. I am sure she will continue to settle down. I always forget that you are headed into winter as we get on towards summer.

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   2 years ago

Aw poor little Roxy, lucky she has you for Mum though hun. Having read through your discussion I am also wondering if the problem is dehydration. When my Mum's dog had problems she was given a sachet of Dioralite, a kind of rehydration powder mixed with a little water. It is often given to babies, so it should be fine for little Roxy


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Hi sweety. I've been reading too and I read about that stuff I can give her. However, she seems to be getting plenty of fluid in the food she eats.

I'm back to thinking I have to let her be outside more so she can go potty outside rather than in. I think I upset her when I shouted to her. We have winter coming though and I tend to let the animals be inside during really cold weather.

I'm just remembering...the other day she went to the closed door and looked over at me. I happened to glance up just at the right time and I let her out. She went round the corner and did her business and then looked real pleased with herself.

When she goes in the lounge room on the rug, she must be caught short and having to go suddenly. It fits in with being roused on for going in the wrong place in the past.

We'll get there. I'm just worrying like any Mum with a new baby...lol.

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8. myLot reputation of 56/100. bentennyson89 (493)   2 years ago

to say in short small age is the best,have fun...

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9. myLot reputation of 80/100. dani0157 (423)   2 years ago

I would recommend to wait a couple days and see what happens with the poo. Also you might consider making her somehow more comfortable with her name. Let her associate calling her with somethng good. Like for example call her every now and then and when she comes give her a small piece of dog food (from these nuudles etc Royal Canin,Pedigree, Pro Pet and so on ) and pet her. Then see. Ususally when a dog get scared then it duck a bit and start shaking slitely. Watch out for this. If this is the reason then you should try and make her associate this thing that she is scared of with something good. Example above. :D hope i helpt


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Thanks for the thoughtful suggestions.

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10. myLot reputation of 98/100. nova1945 (1193)   ranked 431 out of 7,859 in dogs   2 years ago

Naturally, I recommend she see a vet. But I do understand your financial dilema. I have 2 cats and a dog and it is certainly not cheap for vet visits. You may be right about the water, but also if she is chewing on sticks she may have ingested some and caused an obstruction in her bowels. Has she been wormed? That is something you can do at home (no vet required.)

You might also try putting a little lubricant (like vaseline or butter) on her nose so she licks it off and lubricates her intestines to make passing poo easier.

Good luck and I hope things get easier for Roxy.


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12882)   ranked 202 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago


Hi nova 1945...I've reached a conclusion that she's getting enough fluids and that she's been conditioned to react to a tone of voice and also to hold her bladder etc. It's what I first thought and now I'm back to that idea.

However, it's one thing to be patient and another thing to get her potty trained as soon as possible.

My first inclination with a new pet is always to go straight to the vet. The last time I took my dog Lucy, she had cut one of her foot pads. It had stopped bleeding and the vet just cut the flap off...no dressing or bandage as I said I could do that as necessary but he charged me $50. I was in there for less than 5 minutes. Living nearly an hour out of town where the vet is, adds to the cost. That was about 2 years ago, imagine how much a visit costs these days?

Roxy is fine...she's become a plump little bundle of happiness and energy. I just worry about all my critters every now and then.lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. nova1945 (1193)   ranked 431 out of 7,859 in dogs  2 years ago

Glad to hear she is OK and getting fat and sassy like a puppy should.
Yes vet bills have gone up. I have a mobile vet who comes to the house and he gave all three of mine their anual shots and checkup. That ran me $247. Unreal!

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