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myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work 2 years ago

A few weeks ago, a project was launched in the company I work for, to save resources. One of the initiatives was to go double sided printing on our documents. If you think of it, it made sense in a way that we not only saved money on the amount of paper that we use, but also maybe save a few trees.

In the weeks that followed, I’ve never seen so many people getting disoriented with this change! Including me! Not because we only now carried half the amount of paper we brought to meetings, but because of the number of times we flipped pages that we do during meetings. Now meetings took longer than they should.

I guess this week, somebody from higher management got really tired of it, that he or she requested all printers be brought back to single page printing.

Although this maybe a setback in our quest to save a few trees, the time we wasted flipping pages was not worth whatever savings we got. So, in the meantime, until we come up with a better alternative, we’ll go back to destroying more trees.


What did you think about my company’s actions? Are we justified in using single page-printing? Have you ever had resource-savings initiatives like this? Has one ever backfired? Like ours?


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nyhollyjean (2254) response was accepted on 8/9/2010.
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tags:  double-sided, kill time, not trees, printer, time consuming
 
1. myLot reputation of 90/100. newuserptc (2357)   2 years ago

Based on your reasoning what your company did is just right you cannot jeopardize your company loosing time and to be more productive just to save a paper. Well in due time you will find some good alternative about it. We also have same project like those we recycled papers and sometime used scratch paper for some internal documents, we used the other side of the papers that we have in our stockroom these are files from last year that is supposed to be sent for recycling company but since the other side of the paper is still neat the management give an order to use the other side. We also have some problem with this sometimes when we present copies of statement of account of clients they will see that there is something printed on the back of it for us a big company this may caused for our client to loose credibility with us because we are a big company then we used scratch papers we just try to explain it to our client but same as your company problem it consume time to explain for it rather than focused on our clients concern.


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

Yes, we all have the best intentions. But sometimes, we don't realize the effects of our decisions, until we see it first hand. Sometimes in our efforts to save one thing, we end up disrupting or wasting another.
It is good though, that our minds in the right place. We just have to think it through.
Thanks for the response.

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24268)   ranked 1 out of 245 in work   2 years ago

We have a lot of conference calls where people look at the materials online. That saves a lot of trees...


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

That seems to be the concensus everywhere. Put all documentation online, or a server somewhere which can be looked at anywhere, anytime.
No more duplicate copies necessary.
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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. nyhollyjean (2254)   ranked 41 out of 245 in work   2 years ago

Hi bounce!

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your company's policy now.

What is the cost of a few extra minutes compared to the life of a tree? I am an advocate for saving as many trees as possible. I've written letters to our government and to other companies about this very thing before.

If every company had your company's attitude, how many trees do you think will have been killed in the short amount of time between the decision to save paper and then not to?

It's a short sighted attitude imho--for without trees, sooner or later there won't be a planet left to do business on. Can't your company find other ways to conduct business, such as online, by teleconference, by email, etc?


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

Hi Holly.
Well, the industry I am in, is actually a big enemy of trees. I work in aerospace manufacturing. And if you know about our industry, every little part we make, comes with a stack of paper which is copied and copied at every stop in our supply chain. The paper we waste in the company is no where near the quantity we produce in certifying parts. We've gone a little better in recent years though, as we've learned to pdf copies.
There are other ways, I'm sure. Just maybe not the time for double-sided printing just yet. At least for us.

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. jewels49 (1124)   ranked 33 out of 245 in work   2 years ago

Timely discussion my friend. Avon recently started prnting out invoices in the same manner, for the same nobel green reasons. I was excited when they announced the changes, I work at being good to the planet and my own environment, you might even say at times, I pride myself on it. Mother nature forgive me...I hate these new invoices!!!!! What a pain this is and it took me 30 or 40 extra minutes to do my paperwork, and forget about having two invoices in the same space..I am constantly flipping to see which campaign is which. I know I should be willing to put up with a little inconvenience to do my part, and I should slow down a little, I am aware of all the blah blah blah arguments to keep dong this..I don't care!!

As far as I am concerned, the energy I am spendig on wasted time, just isn't worth it. So yes, the same initiative, and the same backfire..for me anyway, I just hope for alot of other Avon reps too, Corporate is pretty good at respondng to mass feed back.

Just heard if we finish 6th you are our first match up..That would be like a final round match up the way you guys are playing..what an exciting start that could be. Not 100% sure we are ready to go that hard yet. Sticks crossed.


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

Have I told you that I worked for Avon before? And my mom is also an Avon rep? I'm not sure if she's been bogged down by the double sided invoices yet, if she is, I haven't heard it yet. When I was still working there, we used to get design documents which were distributed to all Avon manufacturing plants all over the world. Stacks and stacks of paper for each product, variant, component, etc. I know Avon was working on reducing paperwork, and having it all online. Avon is responsible that way.

These last few games is like musical chairs. Wanting to find out who the dance partners are going to be when the music stopped. I wish that the wings get 6th. I don't want the canucks meeting your boys in the first round. The goal this year is to get past the 2nd round. And it would surely put a damper on that goal if we met up first round. Yep, sticks crossed.

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5. myLot reputation of 26/100. qamarep (4087)   ranked 118 out of 245 in work   2 years ago

you know how many trees to destroy to make a ton of paper... but recycling of paper can save them all


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

I don't think that it will save them all.
But at least some of them.
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6. myLot reputation of 5/100. pumared (509)   2 years ago

do not destroy trees. it is a bad thing. think before it.


myLot reputation of 99/100. bounce58 (8364)   ranked 2 out of 245 in work  2 years ago

Sure.
Thanks.

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