Do you Hate sinners and evil people????

@bird123 (10658)
United States
February 4, 2012 12:12am CST
When people do you wrong, do you want to get back at them?? When people hurt you, do you want to hurt them back?? Do you hate people who commit crimes or acts of evil?? Do you want to punish these people?? Do you Hate?? If we rise to a higher level of thinking, we must reach beyond the petty things of mankind. We must let go of all hate and revenge. God loves us all unconditionally. We must learn to do the same. We must release all thoughts of getting back, pay back, revenge, and hurting others. Having reached this higher level, we must continue to follow God's example. Unconditional love means to do what is best for others so that they can learn and grow. The desire for the best results must outweigh our need to punish others. Yes, this is a tough one. Can you reach this higher level??
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18 responses
• Romania
6 Feb 12
Right and the tie has come. The earth becames brighter and we must change. We have to make a choice, change or leave.
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• United States
6 Feb 12
I'll leave. That way you can get rid of the " Foolish"?
• United States
6 Feb 12
On second thought I will not be alone. Unless you will be fooled by the ones who will say they have changed but will never change, there will only be a few of you left.Enjoy when we all leave.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
7 Feb 12
Life is the education of God's children. Life is about learning and growing as people. Regardless of how stubborn one can choose to be, everyone changes in time. Contrary to popular belief, God doesn't rule with might. God rules with intelligence. God isn't a Ruler. God is a Teacher. There are much better ways than might makes right. Mankind has much to learn. Higher thinking is in order.
@lekhya (819)
• India
4 Feb 12
U mean a "halo" on my head,its unimaginable..I tried several times being good to all.But gave up the same number of times.Its tough being good.I don't hate sinners and at the same time i don't love them,i try to avoid them.I FEEL THAT IT IS THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THEM.I feel happy when i am "good" to such kind of people.Its gives some satisfaction sometimes."UNCONDITIONAL LOVE",its easy to forgive sinners than to spread unconditional love.I wish i could...
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Unconditional love isn't always an easy thing to do. You will discover in time that it is the only answer. Don't give up working on that just yet. There is much to be discovered along that path. If one avoids people and problems, how can the learning take place? You might just be the one who will make a difference in someone's life. Remember, it's not about being perfect all at once. Move a little sand a little at a time. You will wake up one day to discover you have moved mountains.
@lekhya (819)
• India
7 Feb 12
Yes i understand,thanks for the motivation.I will try doing that.Happy mylotting!
• United States
6 Feb 12
It depends on the sin committed and what evil that is done. What others see as sins I don't. And some evil is necessary. When people do wrong to me I do either seek revenge Or wish them ill for the rest of their days. I will never reach this higher level and I don't want to. I love the idea that I have the right to hate whomever I choose. If this right is taken away, then I will hate myself only. Or Hate everyone. I know myself that much. My hatred won't just disappear. That is why " Love Thy enemies" clause has kept me from being a Christian. If You forbid me from hating the correct target, Everyone will become a target. I would either become a bully Or worse a kind, well mannered serial killer. I choose to hate the correct target Thank you . So see me as low person or a sinner or even evil! I don't care it is safer this way for the innocent.
• United States
6 Feb 12
It is a right . You may see it has foolish but I see it as important as freedom of And From religion. So sorry you see me as foolish and that you can't see how refreshing the proper revenge can be.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
7 Feb 12
sarahruthbeth. You bet it is your God given right to hate and want revenge. God grants you total freedom to choose this. Does this make you evil?? No, it makes you someone who simply does not understand. Be who you must. It's a part of the plan. There will come a time when you will understand. It makes no difference whether you believe this is so or not. In time we will all understand, even religion will have to learn much for they do not really understand God. God will return our actions back to us. This is not to punish. What better way to learn what our actions mean than to receive them. This will teach us all to love unconditionally before it is all said and done. So relax sarahruthbeth. You are a child of God as much as anyone in any religion. Choose hate if you wish until the point you understand that hate is no choice at all. Unconditional love is really the only answer.
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• Romania
6 Feb 12
This is not a right, is a foolish. When you will be ready, will see that is not right. And about revenge, it works, but when it stops, you will see what a fool you were.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
5 Feb 12
You're asking if we are vengeful. There is no profit in seeking revenge. It hurts the seeker more than the one targeted. Hate has the same results. I do believe in punishment from God or courts of law for sinful or lawless acts. That isn't hate. It's justice. He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD required of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Michah 6:8 KJV A loving God is a just God as well as a merciful God. If we are to walk humble with God, we too must be just and merciful. A vengeful hateful person can be neither.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Yes, a hateful vengeful person will never act in the best interest of everyone. They will hurt themselves and everyone around them.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
7 Feb 12
Graptopetalum, Could you ever be happy with hate in your heart??? I think not. Further, what of all those people around you that you are teaching to hate through your example? Like ripples in the water, hate can touch more lives then spread farther than the eye can see. Is this really a good choice?? Now, what actions will the targeted person likely take when they receive your hate and revenge?? Is this picture ever going to look better?
• Canada
7 Feb 12
I'm not sure that hate and revenge hurts the seeker rather than the one targeted. The targeted person certainly could be hurt a lot.
• Philippines
4 Feb 12
It depends on what sin they had committed. People are not perfect and they can commit mistakes. I can forgive those who committed minor sins but those who committed grave crime should be punished by the upper authority.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Should those who have chosen evil be taught and the problem fixed rather than merely hurting them back through simple punishment?? Often simple punishment never solves the real problem. Problems must be worked on rather than covered up.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
beenice2. Have you already given up things as hopeless for God's children?? You must widen your view to see what is really going on. Can you really say that there is something that God can't fix?? Clearly, you do not know God. Only mankind destroys what they can not fix easily. Things can be fixed, however not always easily. Let's not place limits on ourselves that keep us from advancing to where the knowledge lives.
@beenice2 (2967)
• Sackville, New Brunswick
4 Feb 12
There is some criminal that will not change no matter the efforts you would put in to help and you have to accept that. As long as the effort has been done. The rest is to God to do justice in His own way. There is some that God will have to destroy because there is nothing to do with them,like it or not. We are not God to decide.
@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Hi bird, I am not a person who like to use the word "hate"...I think is a very very hard and emotional word.. I think it causes alot of negative actions and reaction.. However I have encountered poeple in my life that I can honestly dislike, for one reason or another..But "hate" no...I try very hard to rise above the negativity in my life...Its surely not easy at all and I don't always make it, ut I try... There have been situtations where I felt like I wanted to do some- thing to someone, but at the same token, it would only give me temporarily pleasure..It best to leave them and know that they will get their eventually... I don't think people who are evil and sinners will get far in this world without being punished by God...thats who will take care of them...its not up to me....
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Yes, God returns our actions back to us in order to teach us what our actions really mean. I do realize it's not always easy to love others unconditionally. We are in the process of learning. As long as we are working toward that goal, we are moving in the right direction. As long as we are moving, it's just a matter of time before we arrive.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
7 Feb 12
BlackAmaranth. It has never ever been about punishment. It is about Education. What better way to understand what your actions mean than to receive them?? This will do one more thing most do not realize. It will teach us all to love Unconditionally. There are no laws to be broken or not broken. This is merely Education at it's best. Between lives and lessons God will show us all that it has never ever been about punishment. WE will all know God's Unconditional Love that will heal all hurt.
• Romania
6 Feb 12
It's very hard to be good but nothing good is easy. And about punishment, not god punishes, that is the Karma. The universal law unbreakable, not even by god. He forgives, but you must pay for your actions.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
13 Feb 12
I used to be vengeful but getting older most things don't matter much anymore I just leave it to karma, what comes around goes around as what we do to others, we do to ourselves anyway some of them do it out of jealousy, some for money every time I let them have what/who they want, they lose them LOL I don't know if I can ever forgive these people, I know I can't like them and pretend nothing ever happened but at least I don't let the past rules my life
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
13 Feb 12
Wisdom does come with age. Learning to let it go is a great start. Learning not to hate is possible. You are right that some actions should not be ignored. With great thought, we must choose our actions that will create the most learning for all.
• India
6 Aug 21
Others have the right to hate me. Those whom I have hurt me. I have been a bad person for ten years of my life. And I cannot tell it to my relatives and close friends even because they would judge and condemn me. Ah,Mr bird, you have no idea what a dirty person I have been. If you know, you may run away from me as would many good and righteous people. I have forgiven myself and so will the Lord, but other people will not.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
6 Aug 21
It doesn't matter what everyone else does. It's what you choose to do that counts!! My choice: I could never ever hate you. I will place Real Truth in your life then point you in the right direction. Since we are all learning through our choices, each must take it from there on that journey to Discover what the best answers really are. You must at least be headed in the right direction. You are a child of God just like everyone else. There is never a good reason to hate a child of God. Let's help each other on our journeys to perfection, those best choices, and the Heavenly state we will be able to create for ourselves and others. You have all my Love and Kindness!!
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
4 Feb 12
bird, I'd be lying if I said I dont feel those things. But the intensity of such feelings has diminished considerably. All I can say is time is the best healer. We just have to let time do its job. Part of it is also maturity I suppose. Acceptance that I can't do much. May be that is why I dont feel the need. Or may be because I feel there is no punishment that I as a human can give which will serve them right. Whatever..I now offer it all to god. :)
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Perhaps, you are walking toward wisdom. Perhaps, you have discovered there are many other things to value more. No doubt that you realize that when you let hate go, much of your hurt goes with it. Fill your heart with unconditional love. See what that brings. Never miss an opportunity to point those who choose evil in the direction of goodness. It's clear they are lost. If they never see goodness, how will they ever know which way to go? Don't give them what they want. Give them what they really need to learn and grow toward unconditional love themselves. Yes, for many, it's a long way to go. With baby steps we all end up walking.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
People who choose evil can be trying for the rest of us. Still, it's all about understanding. When they finally understand, they will no longer be able to make that bad choice. AS for God being slow, God is very intelligent working on multiple levels with multiple views. There is so much we do not see yet. Each action can change many lives. Though God doesn't always work as fast as we would like, God's timing will be perfect for the maximum learning for all His children. Patience. The results are coming.
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
5 Feb 12
Some people are too blinded by the belief that they wont be caught or will not be harmed whatever harm they do. Perhaps you've been lucky not to have come across any of such folks. Anyway, god is there. I firmly believe in him. I've made my deal. I told him look - I am not asking you to punish them. I am asking for my peace, and happiness. So would you mind doing some miracles? :) I can be quite demanding, and he can be quite obliging. He is only slow..because he is so old.
• Mexico
5 Feb 12
HI bird: You are completely right and some people actually forget about this even if they call themselves Christians. Sometimes people feel so shocked about someone behaviour, like for example a murder that they hate the sinner and want to give them the same punishment and make him/ her suffer. However, that's not what my religious values tell me to do. It's sometimes difficult to fight these instinctive and violent feelings but we are rational animals after all and we can understand when something is right and wrong. If we give the same treatment we are being evil also. We have to give love to sinners not hate. We hate sin, not the sinner. ALVARO
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Rational animals??? Well, we must always remember to lead with our reason. Perhaps, that is why revenge and striking back happens. Sometimes people allow their feelings to rule them. WE are all meant to think. If we leave that out, the results are seldom pretty.
• Canada
13 Feb 12
I think this is a complicated issue. How much can you control your hatred, or other emotions? Some hatred is irrational, e.g. sexism and racism. Perhaps you hate somebody because of the way they dress or the type of music they play etc. Again, probably not rational. What if they dress in an overly revealing way or wear clothing that reflects beliefs you find objectionable (e.g. Nazi uniforms, shirts with sexist writing on them, something associated with a religion you don't agree with). Where do you draw the line? If you object to people being scantily clad, do you make everybody wear burkas? Just a minute, that's Islamic and therefore anti-Semitic and sexist and at least as bad as a Nazi uniform. Hmm this could be difficult. Sometimes you have a bad feeling about somebody because you're picking up something bad via an instinct, psychic power or spiritual gift so perhaps irrational feelings shouldn't be completely ignored. Another issue is if the problem is somebody's reputation. A reputation may not be deserved, either they've mended their ways or it wasn't true to start with. You shouldn't "sweat the small stuff" but what's small stuff? Sometimes small stuff adds up (e.g. if everybody steals a small item from your shop, you're going to go bankrupt). It might be the thin end of wedge - just have a little bit of Sharia law! You really should ask if the person's hurting you or other people by their actions. It's not always clear. Maybe you're being overly sensitive. Another factor is if it's just once or twice or does the person keep doing the thing you don't like. Perhaps you should ask them to stop. What if they won't? What if they can't? (Maybe they come to meetings in scruffy clothing because they have a dirty job and hurry to the meeting straight from work.) I think it's fair to expect people to treat you in certain ways (I suppose that can get unreasonable, if you expect them to give you money or tolerate your questionable behavior) but it's another matter if you expect them to treat other people in certain ways, when those people don't have a problem with it. If somebody has caused you serious problems, it's probably only just to take legal action against them or something. You might have to in order to get yourself back on your feet financially. What if they're also hurting other people? It also makes sense to remember what people have done wrong in the past and don't let them keep doing it, at least not to you. Believing people when they say they've changed is a good way to remain in an abusive relationship. OK, sometimes people really do change for the better.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
14 Feb 12
It doesn't matter what everyone else does. It's what you choose to do that counts. If one leads with reason rather than feelings, one can always stop to think. One's actions should always be toward what is best for the learning and growing of everyone concerned. You might think this is hard to figure out, however you will do better than you think if you stop and think it out first.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
18 Feb 12
Graptopetalum, Think about it for a moment. There is only one person's action that you can guaranty, your own. Make those choices good ones.
• Canada
17 Feb 12
Of course it matters what other people do! If they're not hurting others, then it is just your internal problem. If they're hurting you and/or other people, then it's a lot harder not to hate them and you may have little choice but to take some action against them. Sure it's better to think but sometimes you don't have much time before that guy coming at you with a knife stabs you.
• Philippines
7 Feb 12
As a Human being living in this world of ours. Situations got harder and harder every day. We tend to took it back what we supposed to be taken. But I haven't crossed my mind to plan for revenge coz. Though it hurts sometimes, you stumbled and fall to the ground but it doesn't connive to the situation you apt to.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
9 Feb 12
Part of Unconditional Love is speaking the truth to others even when it hurts. Deadly trap??? WE are all eternal so how deadly can anything really be? Life is about learning, growing and truth. It isn't about never getting hurt. Hurt just lets us know that something is wrong.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
8 Feb 12
Yes, there are much better ways to get results other than revenge.
• Philippines
8 Feb 12
When we talk about foul words to other, make sure you should realize and know its consequences. It's better to get hurt than to fight back. I do believe in Karma, the sharp your words speak in your mouth the more chances your gonna captive by deadly trap.
@SarahAlyx (181)
• United States
4 Feb 12
In all honesty I am agnostic. But I feel the same way that we as a race need to rise above the feelings, but I fear that will never happen, because there will always be people out there that feel as if things will never change and will continue to be the same way. I personally feel like I want to get even with somebody who has done me wrong but in reality I probably never will although what makes me more curious is to know why they done me wrong and maybe I could come to a forgiving conclusion there, because most of the time as selfish as the reason maybe people are trying to look out for themselves because they have been hurt by others. As much as I may WANT to punish others in the same way they may have hurt me, I know that I can't hate or even be mad at somebody forever, as much as I may want to. I feel like I have reached that level but I guess it really depends on what you believe in.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
As the human race grows with intelligence, things will continue to improve. Still, how much hurt is caused in the world as a result of being hurt by others then striking out at any and everyone? Just like you said. There is often an untold story of why people choose their actions. Regardless, one can choose to rise above it all, see hurt for what it is, then choose the actions that will bring the greatest good for everyone. Yes, one can not simply react to things. One must think then act.
• Canada
6 Feb 12
bird, is the human race growing in intelligence? I've heard that they have to keep making IQ tests harder to keep the average IQ at 100 (is this true of all cultures?). However, when I look around, I still see a huge amount of stupidity. Why do people watch reality shows? Why do people make them? Then daytime soaps are getting cancelled due to lack of viewers so I supposed that's a hopeful sign!
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
7 Feb 12
Graptopetalum, Recreational Tv viewing shouldn't be how one ranks intelligence. On the other hand it does say something. I must admit there is not much to watch on tv. My favorite station is PBS. There are many great programs there.
5 Feb 12
generally for me i hate sinners and evil people especially when you get to know what bad things they did, but in other part i also estimate and try to understand why they did that thing. in the first place we are all sinners but they also ask forgiveness to God, sins are everywhere, it might be small or big but still it's a sin, all w have to do ask guidance to God and pray to be forgiven and avoid, prevent doing sins, it hard but it's true :)
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Having already learned, one always questions how people can make such bad choices. Sometimes learning can only come through experience and the consequences that follow. To hate will only supply more hurt for everyone concerned. One must release the hurt and pain in favor of the best solution for all. The best solution will be the learning and growing to the point where evil can no longer be one's choice. Unconditional love is the path toward that goal.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
11 Feb 12
I realize it isn't easy. It is important to be walking toward that goal. God will supply the necessary lessons by which we can all get there. It doesn't even matter if we stubble along the way. We learn from that as well. I think it is important to understand and see what is going on. How many do not have a clue and are going through life just reacting?? Still, step by step, everyone will get there in time.
• Romania
11 Feb 12
Right again, but as yo probably know this is not an easy task. There are few people on earth at that level.
• United States
4 Feb 12
Hate like unforgiveness hurts the hater more than the one the hatred is directed at and often leads to retaliation which never solves anything and could lead to feuds. I do believe that when someone commits an act that is detrimental to an individual or the community as a whole, punishment is necessary in order to teach the person that his/her behavior cannot be tolerated in polite society if that society hopes to live in peace and contentment. Punishment, when it's administered properly, is not an act of hatred, but an act of teaching. Without punishment for bad behavior, what is being taught is that it's all right to behave badly.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
5 Feb 12
Yes, there are always consequences. When returning consequences one must be very careful what lesson one is really teaching. I also realize that society must protect itself in some cases. The goal should always be to teach rather than hurt. Just like you said every time we hate, we hurt ourselves and those around us. Yes, if not careful, we can teach others to hate through our example.
@Hazelrose (2179)
• Philippines
4 Feb 12
At first yes,but I come to realize that we are all sinners as a human being.Only our Lord Jesus Christ did not commit sin.That is why we don't have the right to hate sinners because all of us are sinners.What we need to do is to advice and helping each other,to follow and obey the laws Of God.No to revenge,instead show them that you are concern for their good and advice not to do evil.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Yes, we are all children of God.We all deserve respect regardless of the bad choices made. It is a much better solution to teach and guide others rather than merely seek revenge and hate. Anytime we help others, we help ourselves. When we choose to hurt others, we will end up hurting ourselves along the way. Hate breeds hate. One will never find good results with hate.
@tiffnkeat (1673)
• Singapore
4 Feb 12
I think it is human nature to hat sinners and evil people. To get back at others means we are like them, and in most cases, we are. To learn from God is to embrace the sinner, but hate sin and evil. It is indeed a tall order to love unconditionally. We even have problems with those we love and those who love us, let alone those who do us wrong. So have we reach there? I hope we can all say that we are on our way...to become more like Him.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Yes, it's not always easy. Perhaps, it's human nature to want to just strike back. True intelligence requires more thought to arrive at the best solution. Yes, people and this world are headed in the right direction. Slowly but surely mankind will get there. We must always allow our actions to teach others the direction that leads to unconditional love. It is a tall order that must be worked on every day until it becomes who we are.
@sabado_dc (1001)
• Philippines
4 Feb 12
"We must let go of all hate and revenge......('till the end of your post)" --Sometimes the best way to love people who are outlaws, sinners, etc. is to make them face fair-dealing, or to hold them back from doing immoralities. Nevertheless, these curative measures should be done with a loving heart and with the other person's wellbeing topmost in mind.
@bird123 (10658)
• United States
4 Feb 12
Unconditional love does including doing what is necessary to teach those who choose evil that there is a better way. God returns our actions to us so we might understand them. WE must let go of any hate or revenge in this process. Yes, that means even after the end of this post. I won't let you off the hook that easily. Unconditional love has never been, give them everything they want. If one really cares, one must care about the results of our actions. We must give what will bring the best results with everyone concerned. Any hurt we experience should never influence our actions in a negative way. We must see hurt for what it really is. There is so much more that is more important that hurt.