"You're going to miss the glory of God!"
@Masihi (4413)
Canada
February 20, 2012 7:35pm CST
This is a question to Pentecostal-style Christians out there, every Sunday he pressures me into going to church, and if I stay home he tells me that I'm going to miss the glory of G-d or miss His anointing, and miss out on what G-d has for the church or whatever blessing. I'm thinking, doesn't He know where we are at spiritually speaking? Plus as a Messianic Jewish believer, I have my Torah reading, and am starting to find a few Messianic believers online. And yes, I believe G-d can bless you anywhere you are, it doesn't have to be in a Pentecostal church.
I'm not dissing mainstream Christianity, but it's just like he's unconsciously putting a guilt trip, I know he's not but still, he believes in that and doesn't want to miss any blessings or something similar to that. I'm sick and tired of that.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Love you new avatar Masihi...
I hear you, and it's too bad you don't have a nearby congregation because then you can tell him on Saturday about "missing the glory of G♥d..Or if you feel comfortable, invite him over for a Torah reading, if he says no, then say, "But you may miss out!" Or to really get things rolling, invite him over to watch one of Staley's videos, they scare my husband a lot...


@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Feb 12
That's right, don't want to scare away the admin...lol I don't recall Jim's video by name, but by topic, so I may or may not have seen that one..I haven't seen many, because when I first found him, it was before he went with youtube, he was on podcast and I ca't watch podcast..If you can watch a podcast, you can watch him live.
As for your hubby, be prepared, he may "run away" like mine does..
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
The full name is "And He Rested - Should Christians Keep The Sabbath?" and it's on the reasons why we should observe Shabbat. Very informative, for sure, it certainly put a fresh perspective on Shabbat observance from a Gentile-newly-grafted-in perspective. Staley is also a Gentile believer, so it helps because he can identify with the old Sunday-keeping Christian ways, and address the issues about objection versions Sunday-keeping Christians present to us Messianic believers.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
ROFLMAO!!! How can anyone love that goofy old picture! It's specifically designed to scare away even the rats!
Although I don't wanna scare away Mylot's admin, me needz mah moula!
I'm gonna show Hubby the one "And He Rested" I saw that Friday night and wow did it ever hit home! Hopefully Hubby will watch it this weekend with me.
Although I don't wanna scare away Mylot's admin, me needz mah moula!
I'm gonna show Hubby the one "And He Rested" I saw that Friday night and wow did it ever hit home! Hopefully Hubby will watch it this weekend with me.1 person likes this

@lampar (7584)
• United States
21 Feb 12
That is not good to pressure anyone including you to go to his church every Sunday. The decision to go or not should be left for you to decide alone. I am doubtful a person can miss the Glory of God for missing Sunday service since not every house of worship is the All Mighty dwelling place. It must be some kind of a joke he put on you...

@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
To be fair, this church is one of the more conservative, traditional churches, a lot better than many other churches out there, but still, I have my own convictions, and I ascribe to Messianic Judaism, and that's from many years of Bible study and deep soul-searching. I find the sermons at the church we currently attend aren't deep enough for me, and there's something missing there. G-d can meet us ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE, not just inside a religious institution, I mean seriously. And yes I do know that we shouldn't forsake the assembling of the brethern type thing, and I do go sometimes, but with my crazy sleeping pattern it's hard to function in the mornings. I am trying to get into better sleeping pattern, though. Let's see how this Sunday works out for us.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
21 Feb 12
More traditional and conservative type, is that means NO dancing off the floor, NO jumping off from the pulpit and stage, NO speak of tongue type of worship, NO all these shouting and crying from the preacher and faithfuls during the service , is that right?? That is quite cool! Pal. 

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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
Okay, there's a little bit of that stuff going on, but I've seen worse on the television set, I mean these preachers literally have hoarse throats from screaming so much. Our worship is a bit emotional, and there's a little bit of speaking in tongues, but it's not like a barnyard or a crying fest.
Our Reverend gives more of a lecture and admonition more than preaching (he's originally a schoolteacher than a principle at a Christian academy). But even from well educated man I'm not getting a real meat, history, detailed exp[ainations, etc that I would get from say a Messianic Shabbat service on the Internet. I would love to be able to dig into the Old TEstament and find comparisons in the New Testament along with the background cultural education that brings the Bible alive (meaning that the events and mannerisms in the Bible make more sense).

@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Sounds like my step-father really when he tries to force us to go to church telling us were sinners just because we don't go and that we are one step closer to hell..he even told my husband that it's because he doesn't go to church is why he is dealing with cancer..I was like hello no way..said if my husband walked closer with god it wouldn't be happening. I know alot of so called Christians that ended up with cancer no matter what their faith and that said they walked the path of god closely. I have been to my step-fathers church and I do not like it at all. I don't feel comfortable there at all and always end up with a major migraine ..this only happens at his church.
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
21 Feb 12
My question is, what originally drew you to him? In the days when you were dating, were you both of the same stripe of Christianity? How did you get down the aisle without realizing that you were incompatible in regards to religion?
It sounds as though there are issues beyond simply where you are on Sunday morning. It may be worth seeking out a qualified couple's counselor.
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
21 Feb 12
You could go to counseling on your own to address some of the issues. It won't be as beneficial as having both of you there, but you may find new ways of dealing with things.
You do share a religion with your husband; you just belong to different denominations.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
Ya, I do go to therapy for my depression and anxiety disorder, I mentioned that in another post about a month or so ago.
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
21 Feb 12
Hubby and I were both Pentecostals when we married 11 years ago, and I became a Messianic Jewish believer 5 years ago. There have been issues back then but strangely enough, our marriage is better now than it was when we first got married, sounds odd, though. Yes, I would like to see a marriage counselor but I can't force Hubby, but at least we don't fightas much as we used to. I just wish we were of the same faith, that's all.

@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
22 Feb 12
You are going to have to let some of that slide off your back like rain off a duck's back, I'm afraid. I've visited a Messianic church many times and I really loved it. I loved it that we celebrated the Shabbat and I loved the blowing of the (I forget the name of the horn) that calls the service to order. I love the music. I love everything about it.
I was forced into the Pentecostal movement in my second marriage. It was a fire baptized congregation and we women were not allowed to cut our hair, we couldn't wear slacks or pants.. in other words our legs could not be divided. We had to wear dresses or skirts. My daughter got kicked out of school by the pastor because I got her hair cut. I had to because long hair was giving her headaches. It was just plain bondage for me. They taught that if you didn't speak in tongues you weren't saved. The women shouted their hair down... bobby pins went flying everywhere and men jumped pews.. and people falling down in the isles while the music is blaring getting everyone worked up. It was an atmosphere that was designed to work people into a frenzy.
After my divorce I did become a member of a milder form of Pentecostal type of church. There was still shouting and stuff but you didn't get kicked out for the clothes you wore or the hair style you wore.
I now am a member of a main stream Methodist church and I like that fine. There is no disorder there, you don't have people hollering and getting up dancing in the isles.
I've been told that I have to go to church in order to be blessed. That's not true. Every day I breathe I am blessed. God loves me just as I am. You live your belief the way you feel led to and let everyone else worry about their own blessings and salvation.
It is really annoying when those holier than God folks tell you how to worship God. They need to look into their own eyes and not into ours.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
22 Feb 12
Sounds like the United Pentecostal denomination here in Canada, they're like that as well. We're Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada, and they're the most tamest of all Pentecostal denonations here in Canada, from what I can understand, but its members are heavy into crazy nuts like Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4H-9moe2o&feature=related
When you have time to view this video, it's a really eye-opening talk on Shabbat observance. I hope you enjoy it :-)
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@PointlessQuestions (15397)
• United States
23 Feb 12
Oh now...
Joyce Meyer is one of my favorite evangelists. She's not a nut. She says things how they are. I don't keep up with Kenneth Copeland, but I tune into Joyce a lot.
Joyce Meyer is one of my favorite evangelists. She's not a nut. She says things how they are. I don't keep up with Kenneth Copeland, but I tune into Joyce a lot. @duke1000 (100)
• United States
22 Feb 12
I hate to say this but I feel that this goes a little deeper then the religious aspect of things. You have about the same distance in age as myself and my significant other. I know with out knowingly doing it tend to "father" her quite a bit...
It is totally obvious that he wants you to be the same religion as him but you need to be firm and stand your ground. If he cannot handle the religious differences then he is not as holy as you think. Most religions (I say most but won't say all)tech that no one person is more holy then any other regardless of religion or background.
Now my situation is a little more different then your own but at the same time quite similar. My wife is a devout Jehovah's Witness. I my self am a agnostic. I told her before we were even married that It did not bother me what religion she was is as long as it did not bother her. Sure times can be awkward when her fellow members show up and try to talk to me in a religious aspect. I kindly decline hearing anything and they usually respect that.
Not sure that your situation would be as easy to accomplish but you need to establish a trust between yourself and your hubby. Find a common ground you both can work between where you can separate religion and personal life. It is a very hard thing to do but I am proof that it is possible and to have a healthy relationship.
Now if your wanting to give him a wake up call look up Westboro baptist church on YouTube and have him watch a few clips of them people. Tell him your considering joining them since he is against the beliefs you want to follow.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
23 Feb 12
Missing the glory of God is not all about going to Church. It all depends on right relationship with Him. If have right relationship with God then you can be assured of His glory but lest you misunderstood it must be remembered that right relationship with God demands obedience to Him. God demands true worship and commands us not to forsake the assembly of fellow believers. If we find true faith in God then we ought to give honor, homage, reverence, respect, adoration, praise, or glory to Him and one way of doing it is going to right Church every Sunday.

@IntrovertShy (2780)
• Marikina, Philippines
9 Mar 12
Pentecostal-style Christians. I can relate to you but I am a Catholic. I have already experienced that situation. If we were late in mass, they would tell us that we must attend the mass early or if they see us that we are still at home and we decided not to go to church, they would tell us that we are going to hell.
Sometimes I am tired of it. I just cannot take it anymore. I suffered too much at home but I try to be patience and to be understanding. There is a time that I said “Shut up!” I know it is rude but really, I just cannot take it anymore, but when I went to other church, which is not Catholic, I realized this church is better than I used to attend in the Catholic Church. Catholic Church has so many rules, that is why they act that way. They always saying, “You are going to hell” repeatedly and they are so afraid of something if you broke the law of God.
This is based on my experience.







