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myLot reputation of 93/100. sabrinam (711)   ranked 1 out of 23 in had a beautiful son3 years ago

There is a fear in the US of people disciplining their children, once upon a time, you couldn't go to the grocery store and act up because if you did, the store manager would tell a mother to remove their disruptive child...fast forward to the new millenium and children scream and run wild in stores, backtalk their parents and parents do nothing?
So the question is this, if your neighbors' children got regular spankings for bad behavior would you report them, or think they were doing their job as parents, do you interfere or no?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 90/100. Bee1955 (3224)   ranked 11 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

There's spankings and then there'S beatings. That's an legal standpoint you have to determine. If a child gets spanked occasionally (to me thats 3 slaps or a rolled up newspaper to the bottom), I see no need for fear. However, when a parent or guardian gets out of control and keeps on going and/or to other areas of the body or uses a spoon, hairbrush or belt - thats cruelty and has to be reported.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhchy1 (5747)   ranked 22 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

Being a mandated reporter of child abuse, if I saw a parent spank his kid with a rolled up newspaper I am required to report it, it is held on the same level as a belt, hairbrush etc. In some situations my job even makes me scrutinize using an open hand on a child's rear. The laws are etting out of control as to what is and what isn't abuse.


myLot reputation of 69/100. msbyte (137)  3 years ago

A parent out of control is a reason to report. A hand is for love, not spanking. A wooden spoon, or a paddle are more appropriate becasue the child will associate the spanking with the inanimate object and not the parent. I was spanked with paddles, or wooden spoons, and I deserved it. It taught me not to lie, and not to run out in front of cars.
Mental abuse is far worse than phyisical abuse. We have a whole generation of spoiled, disrespectful children, and it is a direct result of people who don't have children telling people who do have children how to raise them.


myLot reputation of 88/100. kimberlyjt (939)  3 years ago

running out infront of vehicles is no reason to spank. a conversation showing how frightened and dangerous that act is, is better.
hitting a child with an object is abuse. i don't see how any child could grow up knowing that they could get beaten with a wooden spoon, belt or something. i doubt they would think, oh no the wooden spoon is going to get me, no, its daddy is going to get me with the wooden spoon. because the parent uses an object it inflicts more fear into the child. a light spank should always be the last resort, try conversing with the child.


myLot reputation of 82/100. bhchy1 (5747)   ranked 22 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

A wooden spoon or any object is till considered abuse and as the person before said..that object is still help by a person....in their hand!! The rest really comes under the guidelines of how old the child is. If a toddler runs out in front of a car or any other situation that is dangerous, a swat on the rear is best form to communicate the danger, they are not old enough to understand the danger nor have they reached the age of reason. They will assoiciate that swat with the don't run in front of cars and yes tell them the car can hurt them but don't go into great details you may scare them with information that is to hard for them to understand Or say reaching for a hot object..slap their hand and tell them no, better a little sting on their hand than third degree burns and it will again be what they assoicate with the situation. School age children if they haven't learned already can learn through talking, just remember all children develop at different speeds and do what the child will understand. Just don't do it with a spoon!

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2. myLot reputation of 87/100. mzbubblie (1657)   ranked 2 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

Interesting topic. Well I will spank my child IF need be, but I will give him every option in the book to act right BEFORE it gets to that point. If a parent spank their child, to each their own. I know there are parents that is against spanking and by all means, I can respect that. I would never interfere with a parent if they spanked their child. Even today I see women spanking their kids. I guess I just don't interfere in other people parenting skills because I don't want another parent interfering in mine...


myLot reputation of 94/100. korek222 (499)   ranked 19 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

fair opinion - you dont interefere and dont say parents how their are supposed to raise teir children:)


Itallie (65)  3 years ago

I completely agree. This is a free country, and we should be allowed to discipline our children. But, children also need to be protected from parents who cannot control their rage or aggression. It's a slippery slope when the government starts getting involved, because soon any physical contact might be perceived as abuse. You can't win.


myLot reputation of 93/100. sabrinam (711)   ranked 1 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

I think "do unto others..." is a good philosophy.. I think some people can take it too far, and some people aren't disciplining enough...it is truly a slippery slope...

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3. myLot reputation of 61/100. Ciniful (1150)   ranked 15 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

Tricky question. And a bit inaccurate in basis, no offense. The idea that children run wild now because spanking is now considered abuse and isn't regularly used as a means of discipline is faulty. It's a lack of discipline that is affecting younger generations, of course ... but that comes in many forms other than spanking. There are many ways to discipline a child, none of which have to be physical.

I have 5 kids. None have run wild in a mall, grocery store or otherwise, and are all well behaved kids. I've never spanked one of them, and I never will.

To me it's a clear cut case. Hitting someone across the head is abuse. But hitting someone on the butt isn't?*confusion* To me, it absolutely is. Location doesn't matter, and is nothing more than rationalizing a parents frustration at feeling like they have no other options.

Spanking is a way to induce fear into children. I don't want my children to be afraid of me, I want them to respect me. You don't earn respect from a child by hurting them physically. I've used many forms of discipline .. removal of priviledges, grounding, increasing their chore load for a few days, suspension of allowances, time outs, and some a little more original. None that are physically detremintal to the well being of my child. And as a result, I have 5 kids that know their manners, that bring home good grades, that all respect me and show that with their actions on a continual basis. I've never had any serious problems with any of them, and they all feel comfortable coming to me with problems, questions and admissions of guilt .. something they wouldn't feel comfortable doing if they were in fear of me hitting them for it.

For the record, my parents did believe in spanking. I was terrified of them growing up. Not really a way to encourage an honest relationship between parent and child.

As for the subject matter, yes and no. If the family in question was using spanking as a main form of discipline .. if I ever saw a mark on the child ... if the child acted jumpy or timid in any way .... if it were obvious that this family could find no other means of raising their child without using physical discipline, I absolutely would report it, without a second thought.

If this family were like the average family in the US and Canada that used spanking as a last resort method, exhausting several other forms of discipline first, then no. As much as I might not agree with their choice, I wouldn't report it ... but I would hope it doesn't backfire on them later.


myLot reputation of 93/100. sabrinam (711)   ranked 1 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

I should clarify, when spanking is the last resort, I think so far most of you are like me and wouldn't interfere in others' choice in punishment unless it had obvious affects on the child.
I think children should be treated as small adults-in-the-making.

 

myLot reputation of 61/100. Ciniful (1150)   ranked 15 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

That would be the right way of putting it. I may not agree with their parenting methods, but then ... it's not my choice to make. As you said, if it's not having obvious effects on the child, it's not my business to get involved. I'd keep myself out of their choice of discipline until I saw it being a detriment to the childs health, physically or emotionally.

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4. happy29 (28)   ranked 5 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

There's a big difference between whipping or spanking and beating a child.My mom would bust our butt if she felt we needed it.She regularly used a belt,switch,or flyswatter.But she could take us anywhere and we didn't show out.We knew that if we showed out in front of people,we would get our butt whipped in front of people.We are all grown know and turned out just fine.I think if more people were like my mom,there wouldn't be so many kids running around acting like wild animals.
On the other hand,I had a friend whose dad would hit him in the face with his fist.Even broke his nose once.Now this is abusive and uncalled for.There is a line and you just gotta know where that line is.

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5. myLot reputation of 85/100. shywolf (3828)   ranked 6 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

As long as i was certain that said neighbors were not physically harming their children, I would see no reason to report them. I think that a little bit of spanking even in this day and age can go a long way towards teaching a child a lesson that they may not learn any other way, or at least not learn as strongly. I know that the few times my very peaceful father got angry enough toe ven threaten to hit me (he never did, as far as I recall) really left an impression upon me and made me not want to act up. I don't see a single thing wrong with spanking as long as it is not putting the child into actual physical danger or harm.


myLot reputation of 93/100. sabrinam (711)   ranked 1 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

I agree, I think it's more about the impression you make on your child than the form of discipline getting there. For a long time when my son said something inappropriate, I would softly flick him on the mouth, not hard enough to hurt his lips or teeth beneath, but it certainly hurt his feelings which was the desired effect.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. corimcl (2027)   ranked 23 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

Depends of what the definition of spanking is. As long as there not beating the hell out of there children I would not interfere. WHy do you think there are so many out of control children. To spank a child on the butt or smack his hand when hes touching something he shouldnt doesnt bother me. Its the ones that truly beat there children then I would report them

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7. myLot reputation of 88/100. wahmoftwo (1107)   ranked 18 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

As long as the children weren't injured or being preyed upon for no good reason I definitly would not report them. I do spank my children if need be (not daily though) and hope that they would give me the same benefit of the doubt.

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. gabs8513 (19580)   ranked 10 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

The same fear is here in the UK as it against the law
No I would not report anyone as long as it is just smacking for being misbehaved it did me no Harm and believe I got beaten not smacked and most the time it was not me who had done wrong but my Brother
And it has my Children no harm if they misbehaved they got a smack on the legs or the Butt
It is wrong that Parents are scared now to discipline their Child
Here in the UK they even have a Childline for Children that can be used by any Child to report the Parents if they smck them


myLot reputation of 93/100. sabrinam (711)   ranked 1 out of 23 in had a beautiful son  3 years ago

I said to my mother one time that I was going to call CPS (child protective services) on her, to which she replied, "By the time they get here, you'll need them for sure so go ahead." I didn't and needless to say never said that again. I intend to say the very same if my son ever thinks of saying such a thing, not that he has any reason to.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. venshida (3423)   ranked 21 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

I would not interfere. If they are abusing the child thats a different story, I would report that. I hate to see kids running in the store and back talking to their parents that shows the parent has no control over the child. It's very annoying and disruptive to other customers.

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10. myLot reputation of 94/100. easyliving (1541)   ranked 20 out of 23 in had a beautiful son   3 years ago

As someone said previously there are spankings and then there are beatings. No child deserves to be beaten but anyone who disbehaves should know there is a consequence for their action and that is a spanking. So this hypathetical situation you presented can't be answered honestly without more details.

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