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Do you want to see Barry Bonds break Hank Aaron's HR record?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 97/100. thrwbckjay67 (2594)   ranked 1 out of 3 in san francisco giants 5 years ago

Being a Giants fan, I am torn. I love the Giants, but honestly think we could do without this whole cloud surrounding Barry Bonds.

But Giants fans... and baseball fans in general, do you want to see Bonds hit HR# 756? Personally, I don't, and I know it going t be hard. Look at it like this, if Bonds does break the record, then it means that he's producing and giving the Giants production to give them wins... but I don't like the idea of Bonds, a guy who used to be one of my favorite players, breaking such a hallowed record. Do you want this to happen?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 72/100. 007plus1 (178)   5 years ago

yes, why not..


myLot reputation of 97/100. thrwbckjay67 (2594)   ranked 1 out of 3 in san francisco giants  5 years ago

Because of the steroids allegations and the seemingly overwhelming proof outlined by current grand jury investiagions and the book "Game of Shadows" which outlines Bonds' involvement with BALCO and the performance-enhancing drugs in the world.


myLot reputation of 87/100. smilekeith (143)   ranked 3 out of 3 in san francisco giants  5 years ago

The Book "Game of Shadows" is all hearsay, first of all. Nobody who spoke in that book has admitted to saying anything. They have all spoken off the record and a I don't believe the journalists are above fabricating a story line.

Secondly, you can't put the burden of a whole generation on one man. The use of steroids has been blamed on Barry, when the other names are skating scot free. Roger Clemens, Brady Anderson are names never mentioned, yet it was the name of pitchers that have come up since they started testing.

Thirdly, and to me most importantly, you need to judge a player against his peers at the time. He has completely dominate his peers, and if it is true that he used steroids as "Game of Shadows" implies because everyone else was using it and they couldn't hold a candle to him, then more power to him.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ColonelConclusive (184)  5 years ago

There's plenty of good players whom did not use steroids, and they were successful in our current era. In addition, how can you say more power to a guy that cheats? Forget "The Game of Shadows," use common sense, and common sense should not tell you, 'Hey, if one person does it...maybe I should do it too.'

I know he's not the only one to use 'roids, and I sincerely hope that all those that did are chastised for doing so. But, common sense tells me this will never happen, nor will the truth ever come to light, for fear of ruining the integrity of the game.


myLot reputation of 97/100. thrwbckjay67 (2594)   ranked 1 out of 3 in san francisco giants  5 years ago

Let's not forget that the burden isn't necessarily just on Bonds, first of all. Jason Giambi has seen his career take a downswing for it, as has Rafael Palmiero, and Sammy Sosa, and even to some extent Mark McGwire. No one is putting the "burden" on Bonds, the chase for the records puts an appropriate amount of burden on Bonds. As high as Sosa and McGwire got, they were never within reach of Hank Aaron like Bonds is...

i think the biggest burden on this issue isn't with the players, it goes to the management of baseball... everyone thought it was kosher in 1998 when McGwire and Sosa were swinging for the fences, but now that all this testimony and evidence is appearing, it's not nearly such a happy issue for Bud Selig and baseball in general.

I was one of Barry Bonds' staunchest supporters. i was *positive* he wasn't cheating, i defended him against every detractor there was. i cheered #73, i cheered #600, i cheered #715, but i am absolutely sick of it now. i don't want them, they can have it back. I want baseball to give me back my game, and if that means taking away every single win that Barry Bonds contributed to in the 14 or so years he's played in the Giants organization, then so be it.

can he redeem himself? take the damned test, deny it... there is too much negativity around this to continue. a comedian said this, and although it was meant as a joke about Michael Jackson, this applies to the situation. no one persists in accusing someone of something unless they're guilty. why do the reports keep coming up against Bonds? because they are there. if the questions and the doubts weren't there, this wouldn't be news. everything about this is a circus and i am sick of it, as a Giants fan, but more importantly than that a baseball fan, i am ready to move on... i hope he gets the sense knocked into him and he retires at #754.

ehhh, i doubt it.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. rjbass (1014)   5 years ago

I think that it is inevitable that Bonds will break Aaron's homerun record this year and for that reason, I am happy that I am a Giants fan and will celebrate the feat even if it happened under such a controversial situation. I really wish that Bonds hadn't taken steroids but the fact of the matter is that he did. He will be placed in the record books and am happy about it even though he might have an asterick by his name. GO GIANTS :)

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. ColonelConclusive (184)   5 years ago

Bonds WILL break Aaron's record...without question, barring a career ending injury (which wouldn't be a bad thing given his propensity to cheat). He doesn't deserve the record, nor does he deserve an induction into the Hall of Fame. I hope when he does break the record, the books will notate it as such with an asterisk by his name.

Bonds is the epitamy of why baseball can yield a bad rap from some fans. He's a selfish, whining, lying, unremorseful baby, with no concept of team play. I'm drawing a blank with the name, but I'd be ticked if my teammate blamed something of such magnitude (steroid provider) on me, and proclaimed it to the media. And it took this guy almost a year to elicit an apology. Who told him to do that...his agent? I'm betting it wasn't under his own recognisance.

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4. myLot reputation of 81/100. RealBored (111)   5 years ago

Well, I'm a Giants fan just like you, and i hate the idea that Bonds will break Hank Aaron's HR record. I used to love watching Barry hitting homeruns, but now it's just not the same. I used to support him even when there were steroid allegations, but now, he has gone too far with all this, demanding such high pay, I'm not afraid to say this, but I wish Barry Bonds would just die in hell for all I care.


myLot reputation of 97/100. thrwbckjay67 (2594)   ranked 1 out of 3 in san francisco giants  5 years ago

its funny, you and i might be in an alarming minority among Giants fans concerning this record. they always cheer at AT&T when he hits a homerun... it's hard though, cause you want to see the Giants win, but you're right, it has gone way too far.

here's to the true homerun champion... Hank Aaron...

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