ignorance of Pagan history, from Pagans themselves.
By Galena
@Galena (9110)
April 9, 2007 1:46pm CST
another Witchy Whinge from me.
how much rubbish do you see Pagans spouting as truth.
time and time again I see claims that Wicca is one of the oldest religions there is, even though it's less than 100 years old.
it was founded by Gerald Brosseau Gardner (1884-1964) and has probably only been around since the 1940s, and came to wider public attention following the repeal of the Witchraft act in 1951.
it's an initiatory Tradition, requiring it's followers to have been initiated into a coven that can trace its lineage back to Gardners Coven. the exception to this being Alexandrian Wicca, which is a variation on Gardnerian, so lineage will be back to Alex Sanders Coven.
if you have beleifs that fit with either Gardnerian or Alexandrian Wicca, but are not initiated, then you are not a Wiccan, but a Pagan. it could be considered outright disrespectful to use a title you haven't earned. nothing wrong with not being Wiccan. just seems to be a bit rude to take that title without that initiation.
another very common one is that Witches were burned in large numbers during the Witch trials, and that the victims of this were happy clappy card carrying Pagan Witches.
first off, the punishment for Witchcraft was hanging, not burning. in some parts of europe, like Germany, and the outer parts of Scotland, a small number of people were burned for Witchcraft, but the vast majority of people executed for Witchcraft were hung.
and these people would have been ordinary members of their communities, and like the rest of their communities would have been Christian. these poor victims would probably be turning in their graves if they knew they were being held up as some kind of Pagan martyrs, when most likely they would be disgusted if anyone thought they were a Witch.
the Wisemen and Women, held up as some kind of quaint rural Witch, making a living helping and healing their community, well most of their work was associated with preventing Witchcraft, identifying Witches and putting a stop to their illwishing of the neighbours. some were even helping the Witchfinders in their work.
these are real facts, real history.
but still, people prefer the romanticised view of a past persecuted by those evil mean sexist Christians to the historically verifyable truth.
so, Pagans. learn your history. it's YOUR history. where you come from. don't be ashamed of it, and don't change it to suit your own ends. this is where we come from.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 Apr 07
My Galena, you are on a witchy whinge..LOL...I do know for a fact that the term Wicca is new, but it is based on the older non-Christian beliefs, therefore, in a sense pagan...I am not a follower of the Gardnerian or Alexandrian Wicca, but there are other traditions besides these to and followers of those would probably have a real arguement with you in not being considered wicca-- especially those who maybe follow the concepts brought forth in any of Scott Cunningham's books, as he wasn't considered Gardnerian or Alexandrian. I am admittedly a hodge podge of beliefs, so technically an electic "witch"--and admittedly some of my practices would have followers spinning in fits, since one of the rules seems to be not to mix "cultures" which in fact I do-- a combo of Egyptian Celtic and Norse--a definite no no. ,,So yes in that sense I probably do lean and can be considered more pagan, yet I do stil consider myself Wiccan.
Though I don't belong to a coven, I did self-intiate myself a year and a day after I first intially "studied" the "craft"--and I did it in a unique way in that I "orchestrated" a thirteen page ritual that I have written in my Book of Shadows...I say unique since I self-initiated myself on my birtdhay--well, you do have to admit it's a different way to celebrate one's birtdhay..I celebrated near my time of birth which was 2:19 on Nov 19th--and it was very memorable, since the timing was perfect...just as I was beginning the "ceremony" the full moon was beaming down through my window--perfect!
As far as witch burnings etc...Its a shame that it's actually many of the books that try to come across as actual fact as to what went on are in essence romanticizing the matyr syndrome..but in any event...whether burned or hung..does it really matter? When there were so many people labeled as "witch" and killed..most weren't as you say, were witches at all...but I think during those times there was such a paranoia about anything that if a person looked at another one the wrong way..they were labeled witch...Or if someone developed a weird wart after shaking hands with someone..."WITCH"--the point I think I'm trying to make here was all of it was based on ignorance..and people wanted scapegoats to persecute...so anyone was susceptible to being labeled witch whether they were or weren't.
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