Have you ever met/knew anyone who doesn't know how to smile?

@charms88 (7538)
Philippines
May 10, 2007 1:02pm CST
I happened to have a hired maid many years before who didn't know how to smile. She was staying in my house and although, she worked efficiently, I needed to close one eye so I won't see her unsmiling face. I kept asking her if she had a problem, she said her face really looked like that. My best friend have a general rule for every maid she hired: NO FROWNING. I can't remember a day when my maid ever laughed. I thought by looking at her, everything seems gloomy and dark. I was very pleased when I finally rid of her. My world has brightened once again. I'm wondering if you have met/knew anyone who didn't know how to smile? Do you think that having unsmiling people around you can have a negative effect on your mood and behavior? If these unsmiling people happened to be one of your friend, relative or a family member, do you need to keep reminding them to smile? Do share your thoughts.
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@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
10 May 07
If it was a requirement that a person you employ smile then I would suggest that you make sure before you hire them. Personally I do not care what a person looks like weather they smile or not I hire them for their skills, I would guess you have a lot of money and time on your hand to be able to watch some at their work. I also find it very judgmental on your part, and perhaps that is why your efficient maid never smiled. I would last about 20 minutes with you as I can tolerate snobs.
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
10 May 07
Huh??? I'm sorry but I was very surprised by what you said here. I respect whatever you said here though. Thanks for pitching in.
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• Singapore
10 May 07
Hello RobinJ, in a bad mood today? I don't think charms is being snobbish or highlighting that she is too rich. I agree with you that efficiency is one of the most important factors when hiring someone. As in the case of charms' maid, I guess she can be considered efficient enough. However, a maid is not only a staff. She is more like a part of the family. Imagine you suddenly having a new member of the family, someone who never smiles. This is something you do not need to observe. You will see it very obviously each time you look at her - and it would be strange if you never see the maid you hire at least once a day. So if it were you, would you truly welcome this maid? You happened to see her dour face and you don't know whether she is mad at you or if you did something wrong. After all, you are the employer and you shouldn't have to stomach it. I think charms was nice enough already - she could have simply ticked her off or made life difficult for her. On the contrary, she didn't and tried to be accommodating. Just giving my take. Cheers.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 07
I agree with lordwarwizard...my RobinJ get out of the wrong side of the bed today?..Yikes...and I'm sorry I think you're the one being judgmental here--If charms88 had a lot of money on her hands I don't think she'd be here...like everyone of us..while we may enjoy the friendships and discussions found here, we all like the little added bonus of earning a few extra bucks here. There really are people in life that don't smile...they're irritable grumpy grouches and who knows perhaps the person charms88 had just really didn't want to have the job she had but found herself in a situation where she wasn't skilled at anything else--a LOT of people have bad attitudes at their job. I really think your statement was truly uncalled for.
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• Singapore
10 May 07
Yea, I am the black face who never smiles. In some circles. I have a split personality issue. Quite a few identities in me so to some people, I am all smiling while to some, I am black as thunder. I do agree that it can affect another's mood - especially since I have a rather overwhelming personality. Sometimes, I do note how apparent the effect I have on others - for good or worse. Just me, can't help it. I'm a weirdo.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
11 May 07
But you sure have a talent of making me smile my friend! I may look miserable and do not smile much but I can guarantee that whenever you respond to me there is a smile on my face!
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
I have a split personality too. I think everyone have it. But today, I can't smile. For that someone above discerning me as a bad bunny, isn't it better to show off my fiery nature rather than be nice to everyone.
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• Singapore
11 May 07
You have to try hard, baby. You are too nice to be convincingly mean.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
10 May 07
No I don't think I have I mean no one smiles all the time but to never Smile that is really strange Charms How did you put up with her lol
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
11 May 07
Well I guess there must have been a reason for it
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
You know me better than that, gabs dear. I can put up with anybody. Oftentimes, I wonder why she can't smile. She is only a young lass of 22 but she looks so much older than her age.
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• Philippines
10 May 07
Oh yes I once also had a maid like yours. She was always frowning and though very efficient, she made me uncomfortable because I would worry that she might be unhappy with my family or if she is sick or something. I tried my best to make her feel a part of my family but she was always remained so distant. I believe people like her have traumas in their early lives and we just have to accept them for what they are. I am quite good at making people smile or laugh but I never managed to do so with her.
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
I know that a lot of people are facing a hard life and smiling seems to be the last thing on their mind. I hope though they will learn to smile again someday.
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• India
11 May 07
I think it's your maid's bad luck, even by getting a sympathetic employer like you, she was unable to laugh once. I have never seen such a person in my life, who do not smile at all.
• Canada
11 May 07
i'd have to say that i agree on some part. i think having someone around who doesn't smile does bring other people down. i find it can be negative to be around someone who seems grumpy, or down all the time. but i don't think that will affect someone's job. i don't think it's a reason to let someone go. i do see how it can be uncomfterble but if she is doing her job well then i'm not sure if it's fire her. but on the other hand if you feel uncomfterble and her attitude is bringing her down i'm sure you wouldn't want to feel like that in your own house. as you can tell i'm on the fence here. not sure what i would do until i'm in that situation. but i don't think i'll ever be able to afford a maid. lol
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
Oh no, I never fired her. She stayed with me for two years and went home because she got pregnant by her boyfriend. I'm just wondering why she can't smile. Maybe, my face makes her frown all the time, LOL! Thanks for pitching in.
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• Canada
12 May 07
oh sorry, i guess i misunderstood. i thought you had let her go for that reason.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
10 May 07
Oh yes...I've known people like that...I know one woman in the neighborhood, and thank goodness I'm not really friendly with her...I just wouldn't want to be...Talk about Miss. Gloom and Doom personality...I mean I'm not miss perky pollyanna either..but this one twists everything around into the negative..and expression on her face?? Not only doesn't she smile..she looks as if she's always in extreme pain..but that's her NATURAL expression...And then there was my mother...yikes..and I had to live with her.....It took me awhile to sink in, but one day I really came to realize, that I couldn't even remember the last time I heard my mother laugh...so I said to her, "You know mom, I can't remember the last time you laughed..don't you ever laugh anymore?" She said, "When I'm away from you"--wham guilt alert..my mom was famous for that...if you get the idea that the relationship between my mom and me wasn't exactly blissful..uh, you're right...and talk about depressing to be around with..eekk...but I was in a situation where I just couldn't move out..though there were plenty of times I wanted to --believe me
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@tammyr (5946)
• Etowah, Tennessee
12 May 07
OMG! You know my friend! Well maybe not, but she is moving to NY so you better be careful!! I do love her though. She is always there for me and I could ask for a happier friend, but not a better one!
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
I'm sorry to hear that you have some squabbles with your mom, pyewacket. I do hope you can be able to straighten things out with her someday. Its never too late to do so.
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• United States
12 May 07
I did have one friend who never smiled back when I was going for my master's degree. However, he had some kind of disability in which some of his facial muscles did not work. He was a really fun guy in that he was probably one of the best ones that could pull a prank on someone, & because he could not smile, people actually fell for it. However, if you knew him, you could see the smile in the way he looked at you. A long time ago, I also heard this story about a woman who never smiled. It was not anything bad that happened, but when she got very old, she looked like she was her own granddaughter after she dyed her hair.
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
14 May 07
Yes, I did knew of a friend who has a very cheery nature but can't smile at all. He discovered years later that he has locked jaw problem.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
11 May 07
I have met someone who doesn't smile, in fact I know someone very, very close, in fact it's me! Yes I know I don't smile, and I look really really miserable. Someone actually said in the restaurant one day 'Miserable cow' to ME? A bloke! I found that really weird. But in the past people have come up to me in clubs and said why are you so miserable? I mean I can't help the way I look, and I rarely have much to smile about, it's my feature I always look miserable, I can't help it, unless I get plastic surgery the miserable look I will always have, sad, but true!
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
Oh no, wolfie, your avatar alone suggest a smiling, happy person. I know we all have so many complications to deal with which tend to make us pull down our mouth all the time. I do that all the time before but decided I'm not yet ready for those wrinkles, LOL!
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• United States
11 May 07
I can't believe anyone can get so upset over whether or not a person smiles. I wouldn't let it affect me. I am one of those people that people say doesn't smile enough. But, I know I do. It's not that I feel angry or sad, it's mostly because I'm neutral and minding my own business. Lately, I have pressure headaches that make my face muscles real heavy, so I don't smile as much. As to whether or not she "knows how to smile" you don't have to learn how to smile. It comes naturally. Some people just don't smile all that much at work.
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
I understand what you're saying, desertdarlene. Having some troubles and medical issues tend to put the smile out of our face.
@GardenGerty (157562)
• United States
11 May 07
I tend to have a sober look, but I have had to learn that smiling goes a long way toward softening my words and my life. Both of my children look somber until they choose to smile. People even commented that they could not get my little boy to smile by playing baby games with him. People who think a lot, sometimes look unsmiling, but they are just concentrating. I do wonder, if you got acquainted with the maid, if she would have relaxed and softened her demeanor. I know she could not have been mad at you, but maybe just had and awful life and did not know how to soften her face. Talking to her about it may have made her more self conscious. I have had people comment on me looking grouchy, when I was just thinking. I do not see how someone could not smile at a bunny.
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
My maid stayed with me for two years. We often talked a lot. She shared with me her life which is indeed not a pleasant one. I even encouraged her to smile but she insisted she really look like that.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
11 May 07
we have a girl like this at work and she really gets to me sometimes. No matter how good mood i am in she can bring me down just by looking at me. I do not know why she is like this, and I belive that she is also like this at home, among friends and so on...
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
Maybe, there is something that's bothering her. We will never know about it but i hope she will learn how to smile more. I have my own difficulties but I remember how to smile all the time.
19 Jun 07
I didn't. If I shown you photos of myself you'd probably wonder what's wrong especially when I was a younger teen and later teen. It all changed when I met my wife and son, I started smiling more because those moments we shared. ~Joey
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
20 Jun 07
Awww Joey. I'm glad your wife and son have bring back the sunshine in your life. Way to go...
@kaplya (1578)
• India
11 May 07
i can't remember if i have met someone with the same attitude!! i think life would be a miserable thing if someone of that type would be near me! but perhaps ur maid have already seen (what was her age?) so many up and downs in life that it all left her without a smile!by the way there were some friends of me who didn't prefer to smile because they felt they r looking awkward while smiling (yes of course i m talking about the teenager days;))
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
14 May 07
LOL, I have this impression that teenagers love to smile all the time. They are still in that carefree stages of their life. My maid was 22 and worked for me for 2 years.
@im_anna (717)
• Philippines
11 May 07
I remember my teacher in high school who doesn't really know how to smile. Day by day, there is always a reason nto frown, she not only doesn't smile, she would discipline & reprimand you when she sees you in the corridor or hallway. Everybody doesn't want to be near her. Though, a disciplinarian, she was a very efficient teacher, at that time, she was the best. That's why I asked her to be my adviser, which she was able to help me enter a good university.
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
I think your teacher is trying to put a straight face to maintain her status as an authority in the school. If she kept smiling, the students might take advaantage of her cheery nature.
@babystar1 (4233)
• United States
11 May 07
Yes my boss at work does not no how to smile. He is always mad looking. He is not a friendly man at all.
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
11 May 07
Yes it can have an effect on your mood but i fight that daily.My husband hardly ever smiles.hes also negative.Don't get me wrong he is good to me and he is a good man he just does not smile,he has before and has actually even laughed but i can count the times on one hand...I have learned to just accept his unsmiling face because like i said he is good to me,so i just blow him off,because i smile and laugh enough for the both of us,Im a happy go luckey type,and i try never to let other people bring me down.. He is not sad,he just don't smile much at all,but he don't have a long depressed face,,
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
I guess there are really some people who are really like that. My maid stayed with me for two years. In the space of that time, she never smiled at all not even while watching comedy show.
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
11 May 07
Yes, I have known people like that and even had a few friends over the years that tended to not smile. It's annoying and depressing to me. I like to smile as much as possible and when it becomes a full-time job getting someone to smile I give up and move ont. :)
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
11 May 07
Having unsmiling people around us certainly can depressed us all the more. I do hope that everyone will learn to smile more. We can have many difficulties in life. But there is always something to smile about too.
@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
11 May 07
Oh charms, I am not sure what will happen if we should meet one day? My big head does have a smile 24/7 but my own face is as black as charcoal. Will you mistaken it for firewood and just toss it into the fire? No matter how much I train it, plaster it or even sew, it just does not know how to smile. I even went for surgery. What to do if I am born like that?
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
Oh no, bighead. I don't think I would mind seeing your charcoal face at all. I would gladly paint it to look like snow white, LOL. I may not have a charcoal face but after all the hurricane here, I don't think I will be able to pull up my mouth again. I need to take a break here.
@misheleen73 (6037)
• United States
11 May 07
I would have to say that it doesn't bother me in the least. I know people who smile constantly and they are really thinking how much they hate you or other nasty things. Maybe your maid was a depressed person, maybe she had bad teeth, maybe she just didn't have any reason to smile. I don't smile a whole lot either. I laugh if something is funny, and occassionally I smile. But I don't sit around with a big grin on my face all the time. Sometimes when people are working, they are concentrating on work, not on smiling. I wouldn't say anything to anyone about smiling, it's their choice if they want to smile or not.
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
I know what you're saying, monkey. One thing that confused me is that my maid wasn't smiling even while watching comedy show.
• Malaysia
11 May 07
lots! i frequently run into ppl who doesn't smile. last time i was working in this small company, people don't seem to smile at each other and i don't understand why? although we might not be in the same department, but we are office mates and bump into each other almost every day yet we don't smile at each other. and some, we are in the same department but we still don't smile. each time i try to smile at people, but the only thing i get is a sour face. if we don't smile at people, they'll make a conclusion that we're arrogant or something. but if we smile at them, they can't even smile back. weird...T_T
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
12 May 07
I understand what you're saying. I once worked in the office too. We are a mix of different nationalities and I tried to be friendly and smiled around. But they didn't bother to smile back and pretend they didn't see me.