I think I saw someone plagiarising on Ciao!

@mariab (88)
United States
October 27, 2008 11:14am CST
OMG! I think I saw a review that was plagiarized on ciao! I'm not sure, but I think I've read this review in a magazine that a friend of mine worked at before - some of the terms sounded familiar. I don't know what to do - should I search for more proof or just wait until Ciao discovers this? Also, I noticed this guy has written about a dozen reviews in a matter of minutes (i kept refreshing his page and each time I do, a new review pops out). I looked into his profile further and saw that in 1 week he has made about 75 reviews and some of them, I can't even understand! Also, they are all electronics and cellphones - I don't know, maybe the guy is super rich and he owns all of these gadgets, but that seems highly suspect. I'm torn because I know reporting him is the right thing to do, but I don't want this guy (or his friends) to retaliate - I just want to do good reviews for ciao.
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14 responses
• United States
27 Oct 08
Believe me. Ciao watches it's members and this guy will probably be banned soon even without your help..lol. I mean if he is copy & pasting/plagiarizing reviews within minutes/seconds they will notice the short amount of time between submissions and watch him. If your not 100% sure if he's taking magazine reviews and submitting them as his own then I'm not sure if your complaint would be valid because I think ciao needs proof to back up a claim, but if you find the proof then complain away:) .. People do so many stupid things on ciao, like copy and paste other people's reviews and they beg & pester people non-stop to read there reviews and rate them, this is dumb because it get's people banned so quickly. And these people don't even bother reading the TOS.. They just see money signs and are desperately greedy and will try to cheat to get as much money as they can for minimal effort. And seriously, it's not too hard to write a honest review about a product you use.. I don't get people like this also!
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• Ukraine
27 Oct 08
You wrote that it is not too hard to write a honest review about a product you use... I think there you do not have to write all reviews about products you have used. You may write about products which you know also or someone of your friends knows or uses. Am I right?
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• United States
27 Oct 08
No..Ciao's guidelines states you should structure your review around your OWN experience when writing a review for a product.If you're friend owns this product then they need to write a review about it. (please take the time to read "guidelines for writing a review" at Ciao) It might save you from possibly getting banned . I have seen people get banned left and right for constantly breaking the rules. Ciao is a great place to earn extra money at but yet they are very strict with there rules.
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• Canada
28 Oct 08
It is really up to the company to police the cheaters. They should have checks in place to catch them. Same with here, but here they have a little + - ! so you can rate the posts and report abusers as the administration cannot be everywhere and they ask you to report rules abuses. Unfortunately the cheaters make it bad for the rest of us, especially when the rewards amount go down or the website is cheated out of existence.
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• United States
27 Oct 08
Not to sound rude or anything but sometimes it is better to just mind your own business. Ciao will catch on to them eventually.
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• Ukraine
27 Oct 08
I agree with you. I also saw such a member in Ciao who in wrote about 10 reviews in 30 minutes. But it is non of my business, it is completeley up to ciao. I only wrote him my private message that not to do like that. And that is all. I think this way of warning is better.
@nimasa (122)
• Canada
27 Oct 08
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@gerald_lian (2190)
• Australia
27 Oct 08
I know what it feels like to be torn between having to choose between two things to do. In this case, I know there is a part of you that wants to bring the plagiarizer to justice, but reporting him may mean that him or his friends will retaliate against you. As the Ciao site itself has the responsibility to maintain the originality of review content on the site, I guess the best thing you can do at the moment is to wait for a few weeks and see whether the plagiarizer is removed by Ciao. If by the stipulated time you have not seen anything done by the Ciao admin, then you can step in and report the plagiarizer to the Ciao admin. But you will need to provide proof of plagiarism, and no one could tell for sure what the plagiarizer or his friends are going to do.....so basically, let Ciao do what they are supposed to do, and if you see they are not, make sure that they see into it. I guess to avoid having the plagiarizer or his friends retaliate, you could report to Ciao and tell them to keep your reporting as anonymous, so that the plagiarizer will not know who reported him.....just a suggestion....
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@mariab (88)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Thanks for your comment and suggestion, I just feel bad because I know the person who wrote the ORIGINAL article (if I'm correct - I have to find and check that magazine again or see if it's available online). I'm hoping Ciao will catch on to this person soon, otherwise I don't think I'm a good friend (to the guy who may have been the original victim) if I don't tell him. Anyway, the best case scenario would be if I'm wrong and this ciao member didn't plagiarize, so I don't have to think about it.
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@Eskimo (2317)
27 Oct 08
I'm a member of Ciao, (and also DooYoo), although I haven't posted any reviews there for some time, I have noticed that some reviews are copied onto the other site, sometimes by the same person, sometimes plagiarised. Plagiarisim is wrong and should never be condoned. These people are usually caught quite quickly, but it does help if you report them. To do that number of reviews then it is quite possible that the person is cutting and pasting from someone else's review.( It could be that it has been stored on a file in his pc. I've several times written a review which has then been lost as it didn't upload properly, so storing it on pc first is recommended). Posting a dozen reviews immediately after each other is not recommended either, because it alienates others who have just posted reviews and they drop off the recent page very quickly and few people will get the chance to read them. It is possible however that the person involved copies his own work from DooYoo to Ciao (or vice/versa), which again is not allowed, unless the words are changed a bit (which may be allowed). I've posted reviews about the same subject on both, but I always changed it around so that they are not identical.
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@rainmark (4302)
27 Oct 08
That's really happpen but let the ciao do any steps for it. Just mind your own business and let him earn from ciao, and one day ciao make any right steps for it. I have read those kinds of reviews there but im not bothered to report them, it's out of my business. Cheers.
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@darksorrow (4667)
• Bangladesh
27 Oct 08
Don't worry. Someone else will do it for you.lol There are some people who is very active on ciao & also views the reviews whether someone is abusing their system. You might have got a message from someone who gave you feedback for your first review i think. I heard of another person (i am not naming her) who helps other peoples account get deleted if they try to abuse ciao.
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@steady (936)
• Philippines
27 Oct 08
these things are bound to happen anyway, and it's probably only a matter of time before ciao catches him.
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@sirrob (4112)
• Philippines
28 Oct 08
looking for proof is the best way to do right now if you intend to report it so that it won't backfire to you. i have known this kind of situation in ciao also and it is just too hard to argue on things like this without evidence based stuff. i don't know if it's part of ciao's terms to encourage members to report something like this and i need to dig that as well if it does. with you starting this discussion, you might be able to give yourself an easy work not to report it coz someone might have done it for you already.just a wild guess. just do what you think is right and appropriate but sooner or later ciao will catch this out.
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• Philippines
28 Oct 08
I agree. To build a strong case you should have an evidence and I think, it should be your friends whose gonna be doing that since you mentioned that he is the author of the original work In that way, he can show the admin the proofs of copyright and written certification from the publisher/editor from where it was first published. However, what if the guy asked for "permission" from the copyright owner and then you "reacted" without further investigation? (In my country there is a term called "acquisition".) In that way, you can be sure that you will be backfired. Anyhow I don't know how the terms and conditions are in ciao but in blogging as well, tons of "re-posts" are done and it's really hard to police this stuff because of some legal loopholes as challenged by emerging technologies. I guess you are a very critical reader and that's good. I'm a writer myself and personally, I don't make issues if my work is stolen for this purpose... as an Artist, I don't mind sharing but it would be better if they asked for permission because the credibility of the original writer may be threatened in the long run. It's people like you who give justice to us in an academic perspective. The admin seems to be efficient enough as mentioned by others so the alleged plagiarist will have a dose of his own medicine. We could not also deny the fact that some systems are vulnerable and are encouraging this practices too in the quest for content and marketing strategy- these are just theories yet to be investigated.
@MissGia (955)
• United States
27 Oct 08
If you turn him in to be reviewed..to see if he is even plagiarizing how is he going to retaliate you. I'm sure the admin of Ciao aren't going to tell them who tipped them off. People shouldn't get credit or get paid for doing work that isn't theirs, so if i was you I'd do the right thing.
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• Canada
28 Oct 08
I agree, sometimes the administration needs help. If the person is fraudulently submitting reviews and taking more than a fair share of revenues, it will detract from the pool of monies and rewards available to the honest submitters.
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• Singapore
28 Oct 08
Hi mariab, Reviews at Ciao are published almost immediately. As such I'm not sure how they take care of checking for fraud and plagiarism. I have not written many reviews there, hope to do more though. If this were to happen, I wonder how long Ciao can be around. Maybe he works in an electronics store or something, we just don't know. But there was once I read a discussion here in mylot, saying that he made money from Ciao from plagiarism. So he may be among us, for all you know. I hope Ciao do something about it. My hubby has that happen to him once. He writes guitar reviews (not at Ciao) and he found out that someone put up his review at Amazon! Don't know what he did about it then. I'm sure it hurts!
@salonga (27821)
• Philippines
28 Oct 08
Well if I were in your place I will not mind this person at all. It is he who is cheating and if his cheating does not affect me at all then why should I bother. I believe Ciao will soon discover the cheating and he will pay the price for it.
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@katrhina23 (1282)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Yes I agree with everybody. let Ciao do their job. I suggest you tell your friend about it so he's aware of it.
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@jackiew (915)
• Canada
27 Oct 08
I would advise you to just sit back and let ciao take care of it,especially since you are not 100 per cent sure that it is the same article.If he is plagiarizing, he will eventually get caught.
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@kiran8 (15317)
• Mangalore, India
28 Oct 08
Hey i too am on ciao...If you are sure about your facts then i think you should bring this up directly with this person like posting a comment on his review about the plagiarized review.Many do it and they are warned not to do so..