We all love mylot – and it’s about time it revised some rules....
By mimpi
@mimpi1911 (25464)
India
November 24, 2008 11:59pm CST
It’s time that myLot revised some of its rules. Or atleast, it must ensure that discussions violating the rules get deleted irrespective of being reported or not. I have found many discussions deleted when some others with the same issue still going great guns! Either mylot should have more moderators who monitor the violations and delete right away or they revise some of the rules.
For instance, it clearly states that we would violate mylot rules when:
[b]• Start discussions on individual issues you are having with myLot. Please contact myLot via private messages and your issue will be addressed.
• Post anything that inaccurately explains the myLot earnings algorithm. Our myLot mathematicians have worked long and hard on our elaborate payment system and we wouldn’t want any of our users to make them feel inadequate by breaking their algorithm in minutes.
• Start discussions promoting a milestone, such as birthdays, anniversaries, reaching a certain myLot rating, etc. This is best celebrated via private messaging with your myLot friends. [/b]
But we all some how or the other violate these! The fallacy is in the rule and not in the users urge to start a discussion when they are exhilarated or upset. Mylot is essentially a happy place and we all love to share our happiness and our thoughts and emotions. The true essence of the forum gets lost somewhere thus.
Would like to hear your opinion.
Happy mylotting.


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14 responses
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
25 Nov 08
I agree that some revisions need to be made and I also agree that there needs to be an "all or nothing" approach used to police the rules as well. It is all over the place unfortunately and discussions that are clearly in breach remain forever, threads that seem fine disappear quickly; and the end result is that we just get confused. To address the examples you gave:
1. On many occasions, admin do not FIX issues people are having in a quick fashion so it is human nature to immediately vent to others! If you are going to have a PUBLIC forum, then there needs to be an acknowledgment that both good AND bad comments about the site will be shared and they should be allowed to be shared without any fear of reprisals.
2. I love this one! "Post anything that inaccurately explains the myLot earnings algorithm." lol. Unless we KNOW the algorithm explicitly, then EVERYTHING we discuss on it will be innaccurate! They should just state that discussions about the algorithm are not allowed. Full stop!
3. This rule doesn't make sense to me either! Surely the success of a site from a revenue perspective comes down to page hits/views right? When people get excited about a milestone then they wish to share the news. Other people by nature will wish to congratulate them! Does this not generate activity?? Is this not what it is all about?? It is a public forum and why should people not be allowed to excitedly share news of their birthday or an achievement or something similar?
Anyway, you have my opiions on all 3 now mimpi; and again, I do think that there needs to be both a revamp of the rules themselves; and a stronger focus on policing the rules as well. The bottom line is that this is a public forum and aside from ensuring non-offensive participation, we should have more freedom on the first and third points at least in my opinion.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
25 Nov 08
Believe it or not mimpi, but many recipes are actually copyrighted! I can appreciate the recipes ban based on this reasoning alone, but if there is a jokes interest category then what's the harm? Sure, there can be issues with offensive jokes and a solid need for adequate moderation; but id we can be "trusted" to do the right thing as members and keep an eye out on all other discussion topics, then why not jokes as well?? Thanks for the best response tag too. 

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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
25 Nov 08
Of the three points mentioned by you Mimpi, I think the second point is least seen by me. Of the other two, the first one is there in sprinkles almost everyday…somebody or the other is always complaining how his/her star has gone down, how mylot has deleted discussions and so on. But the third one is the real culprit! Everyday I see at least two to three discussions celebrating personal milestones. Sometimes its quite straight (at least thank God for that) while others do it in a veiled way but it’s the same nonetheless.
Since mylot has done nothing on these till now, I don’t think it will and in the meantime, we all earn a tidy sum each.
So my opinion is (almost forgot to give one) OUT WITH THE RULES that none follow!
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
25 Nov 08
I have felt and thought about this very often i must admit and especially about the way the whole thing gets done.
Yes mylot has rules and regulations, but it would make a lot of sense if these rules get applied to one and all and without the action of reporting. And i say this for the reason that there are some post that get deleted and there are some which may seem to be gross violations that do not for the reason that they do not get reported.
Mylot has been a wonderful place and it's largely to do with the fact that there are rules and regulations and a monitoring body.
I would say that revising the rules in allowing somethings here that are presently not allowed may not be the best solution here for i think it would take away the essence. The best solution i would hope for would be a tighter monitoring and action process not necessarily linked to only reporting but by the subject content.
Thanks
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
That's sexactly my point!
Why it has to be on basis of reporting! The reputation of the place must not always be dependent on our whims just as the star ratings!
And Alok, when mylot states that we CANNOT:
Start discussions promoting a milestone, such as birthdays, anniversaries, reaching a certain myLot rating, etc. This is best celebrated via private messaging with your myLot friends..
don't you think the fun is lost somewhere! And also we cannot post jokes or recipes. Joke is understandable for it might hurt feelings of a certain community but why on earth recipes!
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
25 Nov 08
So in a nutshell, what we are saying is
1. Tighter monitoring and policing by content and not only on the basis of reporting.
2. Certain types discusions in the category which may add a little bit of fun(congratulatory,occassions,milestones) and are certainly not offensive in any manner could be allowed.
Recipes. What may be wrong with that ?
On the other hand what about promotion of all those bux to sites which turn out be scams in the end.
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@mariposaman (2959)
• Canada
25 Nov 08
I think the philosophy of not allowing jokes or recipes is that they are generally copy and paste items, not original content. I believe it is original content that myLot wants to encourage. There are plenty of recipe and joke sites and there are a million of each. It is not like people would make up their own recipes. As myLot has no cap on posts someone could post a thousand recipes in one day just to game the system.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
25 Nov 08
Thanks for the wonderful timely discussion Mimpi.I am at a loss how Mylot could allow a particular discussion still going strong insulting people from a great nation.I can understand the jealous and prejudiced people and their sick minds.But It is strange why Mylot is not taking the timely action to nip these discussion in their bud stage itself before they are lapped up with glee by more ignorant lot here. Mylot has the responsibility to guard the honor of it's members.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
I am surprised bala! Its still there! I just cannot believe that an adult person could be so stupid to star some flaring discussion like that! Mylot must have to guard the honor of the users. Where is Mr. Crash??
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@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
25 Nov 08
Hi Mou
wow
what a long post and discussion
Are u sure its not violating the MYLOT RULES??
Well Mou, to be honest i never read rules and criteria of mylot, i believe that whatever didcussion i have or respond must be in sensible limit which is necessary in life, sociry and among friends. If you follow social and cultural ethics, i am sure it must be acceptable to all
As far as rating and payments are concerned, i am not particular about it, though i started one such discusioon, but somehow it was not deleted
However i agree that All discussion must be treated on merit and Justice,
Take care
Well Mou, to be honest i never read rules and criteria of mylot, i believe that whatever didcussion i have or respond must be in sensible limit which is necessary in life, sociry and among friends. If you follow social and cultural ethics, i am sure it must be acceptable to all
As far as rating and payments are concerned, i am not particular about it, though i started one such discusioon, but somehow it was not deleted
However i agree that All discussion must be treated on merit and Justice, 1 person likes this
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
That's surprising! You never read the rules! I find it no credit though Cupid. You must always read the FAQs before joining a forum. And this is noy violating rules by any means.
@CJay77 (4438)
• Australia
25 Nov 08
Hi mimpi! I have to admit that I do not memorize all the mylot rules and I apologize for that. There are some rules that I'm aware of which is the milestone and promoting some thing. I'm not sure if revising the rules is the best solution, but I think for the admin to be more tighter to monitor the discussions, will be fair for the others. I agree that mylot is wonderful place to be and I'm happy to be part of this forum. Thanks!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
Hi Cjay
That's quite ok. Even I didnpt remem,ber all. But the basic things are always there. Like some dicussions get deleted on basis of reporting and some with the same kinda topic still remains there! Like when someone wants to know if Indians stink or not, it's still stays hale and hearty and the other hand when spmeone starts about birthday celebration it gets deleted! There should be proper monitoring, as you have rightly pointed out.
And again, we all violate some rules more or less. So why not revise it! There is no harm in sharing stuffs that makes us happy and others as well.


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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
That makes much sense. Increase in the number of moderators can actually make this place a better one. Sometimes intervention is required for humans have a tendency to misuse their freedom. And I agree to what you have to say about RECIPES and JOKES but what about original ones or the ones narrated in our own words? Would you still stick to your view point? There have been users who have pasted copyrighted stuffs and plagiarized contents here and those are neither Jokes or Recipes, I tell you.
I am glad that you dropped in. I really appreciate your viewpoint there.

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@mariposaman (2959)
• Canada
25 Nov 08
So mimpi did you report the post questioning whether Indians stink or did you just read and pass it by. I cannot see myLot employing staff just to read every post, it would eat up revenue that is give out to posters. One of the reasons you are paid is that you are asked to report violations. I do however think some unpaid moderators should be employed as they are on most successful boards. Waiting to receive a report on a violation will produce spotty results at the best of times.
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@oldboy46 (2129)
• Australia
26 Nov 08
The simple fact is that sometimes people forget what they can and cannot start a discussion about. At least that is how I see things. It does make the topic acceptable of course but if one discussion which contravenes the rules is deleted, then all of them should suffer the same fate. The reason this doesn't happen is because I suspect some are reported and others are not. The vast numbers of posts made on an hourly basis would make it very difficult for monitors or moderators to actually see them all.
When reading through some of the discussions where a member has started a discussion on their birthday or star rating etc, they are actually excited and want to share the news with everyone. Certainly some will post just for the responses and the earnings but that is not the reason in every case.
An alternative is that myLot have a special section where members could post about these topics but they do not earn for it. I am not sure how myLot would feel about that but it could be a way that the happy news could be shared with other members. At the same time, it would not take away from the discussion side of the site.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
29 Nov 08
Hi!
That's a great suggestion. There could be a non-earning section where we can air our whatever against the rules. Even though many would refrain from this but I feel regular users would certainly join the celebrations there.

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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
26 Nov 08
It is difficult for the administration to trace all posts that violate the rules. Some discussions are immediatedly reported and are immediatedly deleted. However I am sure this takes its toll on the admin team. I think that certain rules such as writing about personal achievements should not be deleted there is no harm in them.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
29 Nov 08
Indeed mylot admin goes through heck of a time but that's their job! I appreciate their hard work and I do agree that happy posts should not be deleted.
Thanks.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
25 Nov 08
you are absolutely true. i second you here. I have seen in many cases users just start any discussion in the pretext of public forum. I do not see why we indians are said as some with stinky smell etc and still those are there. it is very bad that some user will say anything and some has to report it.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
I know Subha, which are you talking about. Inspite of the reports it's sill there! So off putting!
Thanks for bringing this up.
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@rsa101 (40976)
• Philippines
26 Nov 08
Wow I have been here in mylot for sometime and I thought I have read enough of them but I realized that the point you have in there is written there. I never have somehow violated some of them but I think I got passed through it without a fuss or maybe I just didn't noticed it as I have already posted a lot. I got your point in there and I fully support you in this cause.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
26 Nov 08
Thanks for agreeing and i find you to be a responsible user. Great job! Great going!
Happy mylotting.

@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
26 Nov 08
Hi mimpi, The problem is the inconsistencies of mylot to
decide which things are allowed and which aren't. They do
not keep things consistent. Sometimes they will allow for
certain types of discussions and other times they will turn
around and delete them leaving us to not understand the
reasons behind what they did. Then other times they will
leave a discussion that is blatantly abusive and flaming
even though numbers of people have reported it over and over.
So the problem is that mylot needs to make decisions, inform
us and stick to their decisions! Make a rule, enforce it
or don't have the rule for anyone. Get stricter with people
who are outrightly insulting and abusive and leave the
people with harmless discussions alone!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
29 Nov 08
I agree with wit Opal. Users here do not get which is right and which is wrong. you can get away with something whereas some other would be get caught with subsequent deletion of account! And they never notify us of our mistakes. How will we know?
@icegermany (2524)
• India
25 Nov 08
it is good that mylot is having some rules and regulations and it is important also to have the rules or else may be any person can take the wrong advantage of it but as far as the person it starting some good and healthy discussions and no memebers are annoyed with it and also the staff at the mylot and it is somehow usefull to many people and i think it is absolutely fine.
most of the user would not like to leave the wonderfull place like mylot and would not hust anyone here and also wouldnot like to take a bad remark and henec so we would purposely never start a discussion which can violate the rules but we all are human and humans are tend to make mistakes and sometimes it might happen that by mistake anyone might start a discussion which can violate the rules but mylot is really having a soft corner and they take the step to delete it and i think this note have to be send to the corresponding person marking a mistake and not to repeat it again.
i dont know how far you will accept my reply but i hope i am right.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
Hi there
I agree to you. Indeed rules are good for maintaining the decorum and we humans have a tendency to misutilise the freedom. I have no problem with that. Here I just said that SOME rules need to be revised like we MUST NOT:
[i]Start discussions promoting a milestone, such as birthdays, anniversaries, reaching a certain myLot rating, etc. This is best celebrated via private messaging with your myLot friends.
[/i]
Don't you think sharing out emotions and expressing ourselves is a happy thing and it should be accepted for the better?
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@icegermany (2524)
• India
25 Nov 08
yes ou are right and i think they have to accept this and if we dont have all this to discuss here and whatelse can we discuss then and most of the topics are related to this only and if we dont find this kind of discussion what is the point then because it becomes difficult make new discussions and as well responding to any. and may be we all members are going to do mistakes and hence it is better then mylot should find some way were members have to only respond or just become like before itself and do more better way.
instead of changing terms to start a discussion it is better to point out few things which we shoulnt do.
dont you think so?
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
Thanks dear for understanding.
I repeat gain, the fallacy is in the rule and not in the users urge to start a discussion when they are exhilarated or upset. Mylot is essentially a happy place and we all love to share our happiness and our thoughts and emotions. The true essence of the forum gets lost somewhere thus. And i am glad that you agreed to me.
Have a great day.


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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Nov 08
I agree with your views, i feel that some of the discussion started are plain dowright silly! i dont mean to be rude, but i also notice that these discussions get a lot of response while some really interesting ones are simply ignored.But that again depends on the majority of the members taste and interest. i wish there is some regulation about this as well, where the discussions are slotted, so one can choose what one wants to reply to..
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
hi kiran
thanks for dropping in. Oh yes, I agree to that point of yours as well. Some discussions are silly downright and guess what they have hordes of responses while stimulating discussions have a few! But then its again subjective. here i am talking about some of mylot rules that I feel should be changed for the betterment of the place.
Happy mylotting


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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
25 Nov 08
Some of the rules cannot be followed and we all violate it at some point or the other, that's how I feel. Here's the link:
http://www.mylot.com/o/guidelines.aspx

















