compromise and sacrifice vs being worn down and stepped on

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
January 14, 2009 3:39pm CST
Relationships are about compromise. Marriages are about sacrifice. We've all heard that, right? But where is the line between compromising for somebody that you love and being pushed into doing something that you are uncomfortable with? I say it's when you want to make the compromise because your loved one is more important to you than doing it your way. But when their wants are more important to them than your comfort, then it's not just a compromise, you're being bulldozed. What say you?
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@bamakelly (5191)
• United States
14 Jan 09
I definitely agree with the fact that marriage and compromising can go hand in hand with marriage. Being married means that you have to always show some consideration for the other person. It is all about sharing. It is not going to be a happy union if one of the partners feels walked on.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
15 Jan 09
Marriage is about sharing but not if only one person keeps making all the compromises and the other keeps taking. That is not sharing. That is why you need boundaries so you know when to stand up for yourself and when you are being taken advantage of or pushed too far.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
Yep... Problem is when one person doesn't think they are overstepping...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Jan 09
No it isn't going to be. But you have to stand up for yourself too or the other person may not figure out that something's a problem for you.
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• United States
16 Jan 09
When you get pushed shoved or forced it is totally wrong, you have to be comfortable with working together, I know, I have several examples I could cite, let's leave the examples out and just say that I know... A relationship is making decisions together not being forced into a decision but being presented with facts and evidence to support your position and listening to your partner and their opposition or agreement. That is a two way street where two people are working together. Compromise maybe or maybe not, another person can be won over with logic at which point no compromise is necessary.
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• United States
16 Jan 09
That is when you turn to him and give him a big reassuring hug and tell him that he is so loved by you and you would have it no other way... :) Don't miss any opportunity to live for the moment and make that moment happen. :) I'm sure that you do... Just saying that's all, just a thought...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jan 09
I like to think I win Richard over with logic but sometimes he accuses me of having everything my way!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jan 09
worth a try! :-)
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@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
16 Jan 09
The old give and take, that is definately what marriage is about. I think in a marriage there are times to take and times to give. Times to agree and times to disagree. However this needs to be done equally by both partners. If one partner is always doing the giving and one is always doing the taking then the marriage is definately on its way to being in trouble. Many people will behave like the doormat for many years, but the time will come when they will snap. It always happens.
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• United States
16 Jan 09
The person can snap when the community breaks the tie that binds, we can encourage each other to snap, or we can build each other up to be supportive, we all have to chose which way we would like our world to go... One path leads to life and it is a narrow path that only few find... All other paths are very dangerous...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jan 09
Or maybe on person is the doormat for certain things and the other person is the doormat for others. Now there's a recipe for disaster!
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@Humbug25 (12540)
15 Jan 09
Hi ya dawny Sure relationships are about comprise and a bit of sacrifice too but you are the only one doing all the comprising and sacrificing it will ground you down. This is what happened in my relationship (well there was bit more to it than that) and needless to say we are no longer together - thank goodness!! I think anyone who expects their partner to do all the compromising and sacrificing doesn't really respect all that much! I know my husband had no respect for me at all and I was the one doing all the work in the relationship!!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
lol Dawny was my nickname when I was a kid... Or if you are compromising something that you really, really shouldn't be...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
OK but if you call me that you have to be my aunt...
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@Humbug25 (12540)
15 Jan 09
I kinda figured that we were on the same sort of wavelength and it would be ok and amusing to call you dawny!! LOL
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• United States
14 Jan 09
I think everyone in a marriage, at some point or another, needs their partner to compromise even when they KNOW what they are asking makes their partner uncomfortable or unhappy in some way - it happens. I have to make allowances that go past my comfort zone sometimes, and so does my husband, so that in itself isn't necessarily crossing a line. The line gets crossed when one person is consistently doing far more sacrificing than the other, and their partner is barely (if at all) acknowledging it. At that point, one partner is really using the other, and the situation needs to be addressed.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Jan 09
Yeah you do sometimes have to compromise that way. It's when it is over and over again that something just isn't right.
@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
14 Jan 09
I like the way you put it. On the one hand, you have to pick your battles. If things are really not a big deal then you are compromising BUT on the other hand, if the things make you feel degraded, demeaned, humiliated, angry of uncared for, then you are being walked on.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Jan 09
and even worse if you don't speak up and put up with it, which leads to a boatload of resentment and other bad feelings...
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@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
14 Jan 09
Dr. Phil always says that you teach people how to treat you. In other words, if you don't stand up for yourself, who will?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Jan 09
Too true. Or as Ann Landers (or was it Dear Abby) used to say, "nobody can take advantage of you without your permission."
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@Sissygrl (10912)
• Canada
15 Jan 09
That is a good way of putting it, and a good discussion! I think its a very fine line.. I guess when you comprimise each person gets a little of what they want, but if your pushed into doing something your not comfortable with, that's not compromise, that's one person getting their way.. which will probably lead to resentment issues if its an important issue. .
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@Sissygrl (10912)
• Canada
15 Jan 09
that was the quickest response i ever got i think. Glad you agree. does this have to do with you or someone you know ?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
Yep it does...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
Yep, big time resentment issues!
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• Canada
15 Jan 09
if someone feels uncomfortable about doing something then they should not be forced I agree...BUT maybe they should try to warm up to the idea if its not something dangerous or illegal. Like for example If I was terrified to travel...say like on a plane or cruise or something...Does that men my husband has to stay home for the rest of his life or should I try to overcome my fear...I would slowly try to overcome my fear...do you understand what I mean? But if your husband wanted you to rob a bank for him then no that would be pushing it. Or if it is something that you have never tried but he really wants to try it...maybe you could try it but if you don't like it then you should not be forced to do it again..... Well thats my opinion!!!Good discussion!
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• Canada
16 Jan 09
I guess I still think it all has to do with WHAT you are being asked to do!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jan 09
Sure, that's true. If you're being pushed to do more of the housework because one person is doing more than their fair share, that is different that being pressured to do something sexually that you're not comfortable with.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
I agree, but there's a difference between being willing to try something outside your comfort zone and being pushed (allowing yourself to be pushed) into doing it when you've decided that you don't want to!
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• Malaysia
15 Jan 09
I agree with you. However, in my life, it'sot my loved ones who were bulldozing me over. It was my friends. I always tried to honor my friendships but now I realize that not all friends, even the ones who talks about friendship all the time. Sometimes it is not only money and time that they took from me. They also sucked my self-esteem to feed their egos. I realized that I will never yield to their abusive threats again.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
Good that you have realized that and made a stand for yourself!
• United States
17 Jan 09
I have to agree with you. If it is always just one person making the compromise, it's just wrong. If the other person is not willing to concede to the other it really isn't compromising at all, it is just ................well, it's just WRONG!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Jan 09
Some things we just shouldn't compromise on too!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Jan 09
Not good knuckling under like that, even if it's little things...
• United States
17 Jan 09
This is true. When my daughter was married, she used to tell me, Mom, I just have to pick my battles with him. The thing is, she never picked, she always let him have his way, which damn near cost her her life. I think she learned exactly what compromise means, and when it's ok to do so and when it's not.
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@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
15 Jan 09
I agree with what you said and the way you said it. I think that once you find yourself making more and more compromises/sacrifices for your partner while they're making less and less it's time to draw the line. And I think it's almost never OK for your partner to expect you to do things for them that make you truly uncomfortable. I think that once you start to feel like you're being taken advantage of then it's time to speak up. It's terrible when someone will take your love for them and use it as a tool to get things they want.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
I don't think it's the number of compromises as long as they are completely voluntary. It's when you are compromising things that you don't want to that it can be really bad.
@hildas (3031)
20 Jan 09
I think compromising would be good. I do not think anyone should be forced into something they really do not want and their partner should see this also and not bully them either. Yeah someone has to back down though in the end but it should be the one thats bulldozing the other.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Jan 09
Would be nice but I suspect it rarely happens.
@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
16 Jan 09
Well, Dawn, I think I've been workin' on this one for the majority of the day. The discussion you've posted goes to the very heart of who we are as people, and how we go about living our day to day lives. Finding a balance between our needs and the needs of those around us is a constant battle for each and every one of us. You are absolutely correct that every relationship is about compromise, then the question is when are you giving up way too much of yourself for another person? Without going into too much detail in order to protect the innocent (or perhaps, the not so innocent in this case) the relationship I'm referring to was as very important relationship to me and it ranks up there in the top five most important relationships I will ever have in my life. As this was a person I was not willing to easily walk away from, I had an incredibly difficult decision to make. This person was so important to me and yet every time I was with them I came away feeling diminished, smaller and less the person. Now, anyone looking at that from the outside can see that is not a healthy relationship, but the problem was, I could not simply walk away from the person either, as they were an integral part of who I am. In the end, as heart wrenching and painful as it was, I did step away from that relationship for awhile. Not because I no longer loved the person, in fact it was probably just the opposite I loved that person too much. And that particular love I had was not at all heathly. I walked away from the relationship for a short period of time, in order to figure out what my bottom line was. I needed to figure out exactly what I was willing to compromise about and what things were nonnegotiable. In a nutshell, as others have already said, I needed to set up my boundaries and stick to them. Long story short. It took 3 1/2 years of me drawing a line in the sand, and in essence saying "here's where I stand, if you want a relationship with me, here's the things that need to happen in that relationship and you know where to find me". Finally this person did exactly that. They have started moving in my direction if you will, like they have never before. It is a slow moving process and our relationship is definitely a work in progress, but there is hope. In the end though, what finally tipped the scales for me, and when I finally said I've had enough I can't do this anymore, was when I realized the shell of a person I became after spending 24 to 48 hours with this person. Quite frankly, it took me two weeks to get myself in a better headspace after being with this person. They literally sucked the life right out of me, that is more than just a compromise. That is losing yourself in order to please another and for me personally that is when the price got too high. That's just been my experience. It depends on how much it costs, and I don't mean money. If it costs me too much, then I need to get out, because life is too short, to give up yourself entirely to another person's whims.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Jan 09
I'm thinking that chronic pain due to stress is too high a price to pay. Thanks for the response.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Jan 09
It was only very recently that I became aware that stress had anything at all to do with my pain!
@wheel416 (1019)
• Canada
17 Jan 09
Now that my condition has changed and I too suffer from chronic pain I have had to be even more diligent in the people that I let into my life. If I am stressed my chronic pain is going to increase as well... Now, I really try to only have people in my life who are willing to help me not constantly trying to bring me down. And now that I'm in a healthier place and actually attract and draw healthier people to me and now I have healthy relationships.
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@dhaumya (106)
• India
1 Mar 09
My principle in life is, "Don't let people take you for granted for certain works" and you know it really works!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Mar 09
Good because if you don't put your foot down, you will resent it and that causes all kinds of problems!
@riyasam (16556)
• India
15 Jan 09
i do agree that compromise and sacrifice has to be from both the sides,in any relationship.when only one person has to compromise to save any relation,i think he/she is being taken advantage of.(i donot think that is compromise)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
I would agree with that. Or if you are compromising on something that really bothers you...
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
15 Jan 09
I have never been very good at suppressing my needs to please others when I do not support it. Compromise is a problem. You need to work out what your limits are, draw your boundaries and know when to fight for your rights. The trouble is that people in love are too eager to compromise and do it to easily and then later it is harder to put your foot down. So get it right from the start and know your boundaries so that you know when to push back and you do not get squashed.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
And if you do not do that, you have a mess later...
@dropofrain (1167)
• India
15 Jan 09
You have to compromise at every point of life. But when someone supresses you time and again you tend to develop the resistance. These people think that whatever they are doing is correct but the truth is that everything is not right. You should make them understand that this is not the right attitude.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
and if they don't understand after explaining it (alone and in counseling) over and over again? Then what?
@EliteUser (3964)
• Australia
15 Jan 09
Hey, Yea you are truly right. But it isn't true love if they push you to do something that you don't want to. No matter how strong that love is, it is YOU that needs to make decisions for yourself, not get forced to do something that isn't your will. Happy MyLotting!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
Yep especially if they keep pushing after being told not to and after you've explained just why it's a problem.
• Philippines
15 Jan 09
Sounds really like that ma'am,but i think when you decided to get into a relationship and moved to marriage you really experience all that stuff because you both goes a long way into a journey life which many struggles,trials,difficulties,problems,etc.you both will have to pass, but its all defends on you how would you handle all the situation right? but as many couples says if is it too much then you have to decide whats best for you and into your partner,but as long as its manageable stay.just have faith in God and goes well and all will be fine. its goes a saying " TRUE HAPPINESS IS A BIG SACRIFICE"
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
as long as it's manageable...
• China
15 Jan 09
we are always trying to find the balance between persons if you are weak the other will be strong which you definitely will feel being bulldozed and oppressed.this is the inevitable outcome of this relationship we cant say whether who is right because the consequence is derived two facets.so the only solvation is to get stronger continually now that we cant change others we have to change ourselves.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jan 09
True, we can change ourselves. The other person has to WANT to change.