This girl arm pit,,, ewh please

@diansinta (7544)
Indonesia
January 30, 2009 8:50pm CST
I have a friend. She have huge self esteem and very social character. And she been known as helpful and nice person actually, she even help when i didn't need a help. She always ask for my opinion about her bf Over and over. The more she ask about the same thing the more i gave her a tone and rudeness. I feel like she never listen before. Smallest opinions never count. And then i gave her suggestion about her haired armpit, to not use a shirt that show armpit while there it's not clean. Not listen. Mean while i felt like my belly want to through up every time i see it. Yesterday i walked her to the Centro Mall to show product That I think It would help her and she just run, She shy because her pocket was empty. May be she think The salesgirl know how much money in her pocket exactly. I mean am i doing something wrong here, or when she asking about my opinion, she faked it? cause she don't want to change. Why do i bother to thirst my troat for answering? She left me behind when we walk and everytime she want to looks good. When i hang out with her she always up tide with her money, Yes i am counting here. When i go out i want to taste different taste of food. And it's not alright when you eat along mean while your friend drooling in front of you, right? So i bough her too. But the next day and the next day she also come. I need some rest here, i need somebody that listen, do you care at all when you come to me looking for me? Please tell me what to do?
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@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
3 Feb 09
Hi dian, you have started a discussion with lengthy description and I think I have to take some time to read and answer paragraph by paragraph Ok I know you are quit lucky to have a nice and helpful friend who is always so enthusiastic to help you even though when you don’t need any help. I think she is too caring about her bf or she wants to behave much better or might be she is lack of confidence as well so she always needs your opinion to have more improvement. Surely we would feel annoyed and could hardly tolerate anymore if our friend keeps on asking us the same question repeatedly and never accepts our suggestion totally. So it’s quite normal that you show such attitude toward her. Yeah, I totally agree with your suggestion if she really dislikes shaving away the ugly stuff in her armpit, she is better to put on shirt with longer sleeves. You couldn’t blame her that she is reluctant to buy the suggested products for there might be some reasons for her to do so I suppose. Or you can ask her the reason for her refusal in this matter. Anyway it’s forgivable if due to her financial difficulty. Different people have different opinion of value on money as well as expenditure. When we are taking food with friend outside we always take turns to visit respective favorite food stalls. In this way both of us can have chance to enjoy individual favorite food. If you really feel unhappy to go out with her too often you could go out alone a bit earlier before she visits you as usual Happy posting and have a nice day.
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@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
10 Feb 09
Hi dian, thanks for marking mine as the best response. I hope that your friend could have more improvement to deal with her armpit as well as the matter of money using mentioned. Yeah dian, you can ask her to take more showers daily so as to get rid of the disgusting smell from the sweaty armpit if she really doesn’t want buy and to apply any anti perspiring deodorant that has long lasting scent that could help her to prevent body odor Take care and good luck
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@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
17 Feb 09
Hi dian, I’m really happy to see you to turn up here again for I haven’t seen you for quite some time. Really my dear, I have a couple of friends quite stubborn as well and they would never accept any opinion of us too even they have done certain thing wrongly. Though everyone could see the mistake obviously they still insist that they are right, and try to give lots of reasons and explanation to support that what they are doing is correct "shrug"! You are right. Very often we would spend more than that if we purchase cheaper things with unsatisfied quality, for the stuffs are mostly not durable, as well as their undesirable features, unless we got the good quality ones when they are on offer. To put on too old clothes would easily give off disgusting smell when one is sweaty. And this is not hygienic of course, and would make people close to her feeling uneasy. Yeah, it would make us to look indecent and rather weird as well, if going out wearing too old clothes. I think she is not too proud but too stubborn and too thrifty more probably. Anyway if we want to get together with our friends harmoniously all of us have to accommodate ourselves to one another I suppose. Happy posting and have a nice day.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
17 Feb 09
Hi Ikbooi, You are right about the different opinion of value on money thing. Some of my opinions, i felt doesn't suit her at all. For example, I rather have only 1 'Lee Cooper' shirt that fashion, good quality, and strong product, and last for ever but she choose to buy clothes from second hand clothes imported from Taiwan, with never heard it's brand, very cheap about US$1,5 and have 5 of it that she should fix here or there to fit her body and not so old fashioned, I mean.. These clothes are smelly and packed in sack and un hygienis and blowzy She so frugal living isn't she? or do i too proud? any how, i think each one of us teach each other.. Happy happy posting for you too oxox'dian from Bali island, still
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I would just tell her you don't have the money to keep buying her meals all the time. She sounds like she is some what of a mooch when it comes to something like that. As for the advice, be honest with her, when she asks you for your advice on something ask her if she is going to take it this time? What is the point in asking if she don't ever take your advice. If none of that works I would find a new friend. She may be really nice, but maybe its just to get what she wants. There is no reason you should have to listen to her all the time if she isn't going to listen to you and you definitely don't need to be paying for her meals all the time!
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
2 Feb 09
oh yeah and the arm pit thing.... That is gross!
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
8 Feb 09
So many thing that happen through her mind. She will always so busy. That makes her do thing that she shouldn't. Lots of thing she had forgotten. Her salary is bigger than mine, double. But she never gives any clue where all those money gone. Thats, makes even closer, I am afraid with people that she been hang out with. Those people, even though make her richer and will have her free meal every day, Haven't give her good lesson of fundamental norm. Respect and soft 'Gods love us all' part. Most of them. I almost can see the view of hers that all we can do is work more hard, and throw down dignity just for a view dollar. Just like Gods never exist and help at all. Sad.. Even thought she told me that all the guys she dates are care and romantic, They just saw her as a flesh of meat. A companion of their holiday only.. sad really. I just tired sometimes. I have problems too. Thank you messageme, I will visit your discussion in a return. See you there!! oxox'dian from bali island.
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
8 Feb 09
Ha hah..Yes it is gross.. We girls have the same problems.. ha ha
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
2 Feb 09
Personally I think there are some issues there that she is not wanting to own up too, but at the same time looking for others to always cover for her as well. I hope that she is wanting to change and is genuine instead of just trying to use you for your kindness and $$ and that you end up feeling Hurt and rejected in the end as well. If I were you I am not sure what I would do, but I would feel like it would be time to distance myself if someone started not wanting to listen to me. Maybe she feels you are too pushy, but if this is bothersome if could start affecting you and your looks and thoughts as well.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
7 Feb 09
I feel already that i am a pushy with my opinions. And feel sorry for that. If she doesn't ask me about how to make her western Australian bos (that she loved so much) notice her, or how is she gonna do if she ever meet His parents and fellow country friends, How she wanted so much that her bos not only notice her like a little sister but a real woman.. There is so much she have told me about her life more that she know about mine. I wont say anything no more about her appearance no more..I take it back all. I feel she just only using me. We are at a cold war now no sms no call. Some part of me said that i kinda relief she don't hearing her problems anymore, some still feel sorry for her because she have no parents anymore.. Oh my, she been making me worry as sick! like she been taking over my brain. i admited it affecting me.
@clemere (179)
• Indonesia
10 Feb 09
Hii...Mrs diansinta.. I don't know what a good solution for U about ur friends.. But U must be patient in face of him..giving clarification with as good as its goodness, and see growth about him without having to takeconfused with its attitude
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
5 Mar 09
Hi there clemere, I am so happy that you dropping at my discussion.. This friend is very unique. But worrying about her is waste of time. I mean, she is a real survivor! and very smart. hope i don't get confused anymore with her. and can think about my own problems. Thank you for being here. Make a new discussion, brother! i will love to visit yours. Happy posting always, see you at yours oxo'dian from Bali Island, Indonesia
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
25 Feb 09
Arm pit hair is really gross. Tell her she can buy a whole package of disposable razors for a couple of bucks. It sounds like she is quite a mooch and is taking advantage of you, by allowing you to pay all the time. Next time she wants to go with you to eat, tell her it is her turn to pay, or tell her that you are broke and see if she steps up and offers to pay. Or you can tell her you only have a couple of dollars to buy food. See how she reacts to that. She will likely bail out, or come up with some money herself.
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
27 Mar 09
Hi there ladym33, Happy to see you visit my discussion, I am agree she should have whole package of disposable razors for that, or maybe stop hair grow lotion or something like that..I is a little bit different about money now. But still stiggy as always. She have a plan to go to Australia and shop( maybe) She want to please the family that she is visit. I hope she can survive and take care f her self. Thank you Ladim33 I will visit your discus in a return.
@modstar (9605)
• Philippines
31 Jan 09
Well it seems to me that she hasn't mature enough as a person. She's too shy at the same time not shy about getting hair on her armpit. I think she must do something with it because it would be embarrassing even to you since you're her friend. I think in time she will learn to stand on her own. Just give her time.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
wooah! - look at that armpit, (its a joke)
Hi modstar You are right. She's un-mature. I will not embarrased even though, hi hi hi(let me upload you a picture)wait up.. Even though she walk by the beach and show her armpit, cause it's hers not mine. That would be hilarious funny! ha ha ha... But yes i still want to turn her into a pretty graceful lady, because i do care of her..
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
Hah ha ha ha!! No!! Ha ha ha
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@modstar (9605)
• Philippines
31 Jan 09
Is that you in the photo!? lol!
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@plumwish07 (4057)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 09
geee,its not easy to tell her honestly i think. is she your best friend? if she is, you should tell her frankly about your feel about her. but you should tell her in good manner. you tell her cause you care of her and as human, you also need her caring about you. i know it will difficult for the first time but if she really considers you as her best friend, she will be understand and back to you. when you advised her, i believe she listened to you although it seems she asked you repeadily about the same question to you. she needs that to assure the decission that she made in her head. but if you don't feel that she is your best friend, so you should make some distance with her, as like common friend. i hope you able to handle this situation, dear friend
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
7 Feb 09
Hi plumwish07, She is my best weird friend i had in Bali, i want to turn her into a lady, but sometimes the obstacle is she refused to listen and do her own weird way, ask the same time. He he he, she is upset with me now. That mean i can rest for a couple of days.. Thank you for dropping by , i will visit your discussion in a return, see you there Happy posting always, oxoxo'dian from bali island.
@lovesummer (1162)
• Malaysia
31 Jan 09
i think she needs to find herself i mean find herself worthy it seems to me that she is having low self esteem.. maybe tell her to shave off her armpit get some shaver for her and deodorant..
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
2 Feb 09
Hi there lovesummer, Yes, she is imature girl. I feel so much better now. She still upset with me because in sms i compared her with another friend of mine. But now i can relax for a couple weeks..I will buy her a deodorant after i gets my salary and do montly shopping.. Thank you for dropping by dear, i will visit your discussion in a return. see you there!!!
@sk66rc (4250)
• United States
31 Jan 09
Few things... First, may be it's her choice to let hair grow out of her armpit... I think that would be a personal choice & you, or anyone else for that matter, have anything in saying what she should do with it... It's her armpit, let her be... Second, don't be around the bush... Just be direct with her... If she asks you for your opinion, give it to her... Then tell her straight out that you only give your opinion once so don't ask again... Just as much of a right as she has in what she wants to do with her armpit hair, you have every right not to have her get to you... With a lot of people, I noitced how they really can't be direct with someone but yet they complain about things not going their way, as far as relationships with others go... You tell her flat out honestly & she doesn't like it & doesn't come around, that might be a good thing... That way, you don't have to look at her armpit hair again & she will leave you alone with those annoying questions... If you are willing to help & stick it out with looking at her hairy armpit, then suck it up & do so without complaining...
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
This hair at the armpit its caused a very strong odor all over the place even clean she always never bath before she goes somewhere and to me too, sometimes in the morning she comes and bring the odor at the place i work.(it's an air cond. Internet cafe). I wish i could turn back the situation..the situation, we have a fight already, At that point i just can't stand how she never considering me. In any situation. But i do care about her so much. i feel like my attention to her was so wasted, mean while we are alone here at bali. I do ask her to clean it with a pin when she already have a bath. but she refuse it.
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
31 Jan 09
Buy her a magazine that teaches about looking your best but say nothing, just tell her you read it and thought she might, too. After that, say nothing. Maybe she is embarrassed.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
NanaJanet, I always try to express it at the soft way first, I don't think that This soft ways would changes her because of her education and her manner with no reluctant..You see, She is a home town girl, grow up as a tomboy, kinda she is chicky-smart, Hate where she's come from, want a western husband, Shes in love with one, but the guy sees her like a lil' sister. and she ask me, how to make this guy falling for her, and then i try to give her my suggestions.(we could try couldn't we?) Haven't you notice sometimes, may be there is woman but no matter that we try we just can't changes her into a lady, with the grace and all that? She always seems frugal living, I do care about her, s that i make this discussion, i am so glad that you dropping by because I really need your view. But i will buy her a magazine. And she always demanding an answer..
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@maxilimian (3099)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
Well your friend is funny and a little bit foolish hehe, my suggest is i think you should bring your friend to myLot, so if she has a problem with money, at least she can afford some shopping for her ownself, if she doesn't want to hear some suggestion to you, i think you need to be emphatic with her, you need something strong to make her listen to you, a power to punish her for her own good, and i think it's an emphatic/resolute, my suggest is when one day she came to you again, just makes a silence, if she ask you why did you do that, you can tell her, i don't have words to tell people if they don't want to listen it hope it may helps
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• United States
1 Feb 09
You should tell her to look at herself then look at another girl. When a guy sees a girl with armpit hair, its like looking a guy. I mean its like a turn-off when you see that. Maybe you should sneak into her room while shes sleeping and shave it all off lol....or maybe not. It just makes you not want to stand next to someone with their hair showing everywhere.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
7 Feb 09
Hi Gamingworld, I will do that when she is not upset anymore. The most i want to her is to help her. I think she is more cleaner that before. But that is because i spice her up with most of my cold spice words. Some time, one person needed so bad to be yelling off. She should wear long sleeve if she want to grow and watering those hair. As long as it doesn't seen its okay for me. She showing it every where even in the beach. Oh my she never considering my feeling at all...
• Singapore
31 Jan 09
Maybe she's ignorant about such stuff, which is by she doesn't feel very embarrassed about having hair under her arms. Maybe once she is more mature, she will be more aware. So give her some time. You could try giving her some girls' magazine to read too so that she can understand that having hair under her arm is not very pleasant especially for a girl. About her being uptight with her money, maybe when you go eat in the future, you can suggest to her to buy some cheaper side snacks first? At least she won't be drooling in front of you.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
Oh, she feel it at in the last and starting to save her armpit. And have black mark left on the skin, at least she clean it, .. It is not the hair that bug me when we alone and can relax open her armpit, but she never bath the night before and she left a very strong scent of odor at my sheet and pillow. So when we went go out to public i was afraid she embarassed her self by open this hairy arm pit, and when we hang up in my room, she been odoring my sheet so that to morrow i have to wash it by hand all over again. She know it, but she don't care she still come and without bath.
• United States
31 Jan 09
As a guy I really can't say how girls feel well since they are very complicated.lol! But I think your friend has some self confidence issues. She doesn't think highly of herself. That will affect not only her present but also her future. It will affect with her ability to succeed in this harsh world of ours. There isn't a whole lot that one can do to get someones self confidence working. Please make sure that no1 ends up reading a self help crap. Those things are a waste of money. Try giving her some responsibilities that you know she would struggle with and make her stick with it no matter what. That should help with the self confidence.
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 09
That is so true.. She like a road gal, raced by the street, of course she doesn't like to read. Once i have suggest her to buy books cause i explain to her i can't give her suggestion that she wont listen no more. Buy a book and she never did go to a bookstore. Predictable. The situation between us is cold. i did call her once, and she also respond nicely but cold. this is just too much for me at the moment.. I have my own life i should think off.
@Galena (9110)
31 Jan 09
how is that any worse than when a man doesn't shave his armpits? why is it not clean? nobody says that a mans unshaven armpits are dirty? so long as she washes, it's not unclean. it's entirely up to her if she shaves her armpits or not. I shave mine, but why look down on people that don't. or more specifically, why look down on women who don't. because men don't shave their armpits, and no one finds that disgusting or dirty, and what makes people think that a womans armpit is dirtier than a mans? it's only cultural conditioning that makes people find something as natural as womens body hair to be disgusting. we're told from an early age that women should be hairless, in order to accentuate her difference from men, but the reality is, it's just as natural for a woman to have body hair as for a man to. now I'm no ranty feminist, but if someone doesn't want to shave their armpits, what business is it of anyone else. and when you're out together, maybe it would be nicer to let her choose where to eat, so she can pick somewhere in her budget.
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
No, its not any worse than man, how about the odor that comes from it when she rarely bath? those hair helps to keep sweat more longer. She saving her armpit alright but these times, she miss her boyfriend and all she talk and think it is only him, and forgot about anything else, she been force me to read cards because i know how to read it.(kind like tarot , but smaller) When we walk every where she talks about him him him..I can't even said that i have also problems... And accross the street of the hotel i live there is a warung full of Jawa people that very cheap, But she doesn't like it. She never explain why she doesn't like that place. Suit to our budget.
• Australia
27 Mar 09
The arm pit problem isn't really a problem. It is her personal choice and you need to respect that. You've tried to help her, but maybe you would be better off accepting it is a part of her and ignoring it. The more of a big deal you make of it, the more likely you are to upset her more. If you are always paying for her food etc, then stop. Start going on outings together where you pack your own lunch (and hers if you are so inclined) it will be cheaper. Either that or point out that you are always doing this and that it is time for her to start paying her own way. You aren't her boyfriend after all, and you aren't going out on dates, so she should be paying her own way.
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@raynejasper (2322)
• Philippines
31 Jan 09
..hi diansinta.. maybe your friend really need your help to find herself.. maybe she has different things going on inside her that mess up with her thinking.. and maybe, she is a very thrifty person that's why she doesn't want to buy anything which she feel is not important to her.. About her armpit, try to convince her in a nice way telling her that it is very awkward for a lady to have an armpit like that.. It is very disgusting to other people specially the guys..
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@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 09
She loved to wear short shirt that show her armpit area. And that area are deep smelly sometimes when she came looking for me. And spread the scent all over my pillow and my bed, cause there she is always sitting. Mean while im on the floor. I am very agree with the word you just said : different things going on inside her that mess up with her thinkingI know she have. for what is important, she ignore sometimes, but in unimportant things, she remember.. I felt sick in tummy every time i see and close to that armpit, my head dizzy sometime caused of the smell, And i did tell her so many times. And more rude times to times.. I don't want to rude to her, but why is she looking for me without bathing? I try to bath her in my bathroom, but she refused mean while the scent spread, and tomorrow, i have to wash the sheet again..
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