Why is Noggin teaching my child about politics?

United States
March 17, 2009 5:36pm CST
My children love the Noggin channel. It is a cartoon channel that is educational to small kids (shhh don't tell them, they just think it is fun). Their motto is "kindergarten on TV". Well a short show on Obama has been coming up lately. I had to really look to find the link but if you want to watch it http://sacks10.blogspot.com/ It is on Obama's favorite things. It is not political in nature. It is kinda cute. But does it belong on a child's TV channel? Why have a show on a TV channel aimed at very small kids about Obama? Shouldn't they just leave politics out of it completely?They never had anything on Bush or any other conservative. So now why Obama? What do you think?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
17 Mar 09
I wouldn't think too much about it. I remember as a child hearing things about the President. Not politics, but favorite things etc. I remember most that carter was a peanut farmer!
@Foxxee (3650)
• United States
18 Mar 09
lilwonders - I can kind of see what your saying when your child said that the TV says he is good... we had the same conversation at my house... but we don't want our kids, no matter what we think of Obama to think bad of the President. So we have learned to keep our little conversations on these things hush... so in the mean time... I think noggin is doing no harm... maybe its the parents that are actually confusing the kids...
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
" but we don't want our kids, no matter what we think of Obama to think bad of the President" why not?
• United States
17 Mar 09
Well my son has already said something to me about it. I am very politically active and there was a discussion going on about the ecomony and political policies among the adults. I said I thought Obama was NOT shaping up to be a good president and that I hated his policies. Well my 5 year old spoke up and said "the tv said Obama is good". He likes to do fun things." Needless to say that lead to an interesting conversation with my 5 year old. I hope you are right. When ever it comes on anymore I just change the channel.
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• United States
17 Mar 09
I have been seeing a lot of Obama on TV I am not sure why he is always on it makes me kinda of worried. I mean I know he is in the public eye but give me a break. I say no there should be no things about poltics on a childrens channel. I know some people might not agree but oh well. He belongs on CNN and the news not a educational channel, something is weird about that to me. But than again he is big on education so maybe that is why. If you diapprove of it maybe your kids could watch PBS instead. Happy mylotting and take care
• United States
17 Mar 09
I agree that we see wayyyyy too much of Obama. But I thought doing a cartoon about Obama and then putting on a children's channel was completely going overboard. Like 5 year olds care about who the president is.
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• United States
17 Mar 09
From the blog link you offered to see it to me it looks like it was on Nick JR now that is a little different to me. Most kids that watch Nickoleden are a little older so to me that is not a big deal. Thanks for sharing this.
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• United States
17 Mar 09
Nick jr owns Noggin and it was on Noggin too.
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@Foxxee (3650)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Don't you want your kids to know a little about the President of the United States? I think its wonderful to have these small flicks of Obama on Noggin... my kids watch & they also learn about the President of the United States... that is a good thing. Our kids should know these things.
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@Foxxee (3650)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I don't know... I think it's history & they make it short & simple. I don't see the harm in it. My 6 year old doesn't worship nothing but Hannah Montana, but she does know a little about the President & I think its a good thing... thanks to nOGGIN. I don't think we should read into it so much...
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
"I don't think we should read into it so much... " no, but nor should we completly ignore it as benign either. It is small, subtle....but put in place in the larger picture....a more dangerous scenario begins to emerge.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
The problem is this is conditioning kids to the worship of a political figure. (sound at all familiar) and it sets a dangerous precident, opens a door for such a figure in the future to take full advantage of. To teach children about government is one thing, and a good thing. But this goes beyond that.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
***puts on Mr Rogers sweater and sneakers Ok boys and girls, we are going to learn a new word today.....in-doc-trin-a-tion....can you say that? Go on.....try it.....in-doc-trin-a-tion....YAY!!! Good! I knew you could do it. There ya go lil, thats what it boils down to. I made it a humorous thing but it really is far from it. Get em while their young. I don't have a problem teaching even young children about the basics of government and the constitution. I even think it is pretty important we teach these things propperly in order to raise a generation that doesn't allow government to run rough shod over them. One post in this thread mentioned the old cartoons that taught some of that stuff....lol...remember school house rock? even some old bug bunny cartoons. But you can be sure networks like Noggin and Nickelodian won't be doing that. What they will be doing is indoctrinating kids to accept big cebntral government, progressive social agenda and the worst thing of all, the worship of a political figure
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
what is important lil, and I mean MONUMENTALY IMPORTANT , is to teach you chold that Obama and all the others work for them and are not celebrities and that the most important thing is that constitution and that they never swear loyalty to anything but the constitution, the flag and this country, not the government of a political figure.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
Amen.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
I remember school house rocks...and the one about the bill in congress. I don't see anything wrong with those. But this one was about just obama. not how he did the job. But him as a person. WHy does my 5 year old need to know that those things? You are right it is indoctrination. Needless to say I change the channel when it comes on anymore. Also I had a talk with my son about how the TV is not always right. Confusing concept for a 5 year old.
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@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
17 Mar 09
I don't really know why they are starting to display politics to children now, but shouldn't they have done it from a long time ago? It's an important thing in our lives and a lot of people have no clue about it... isn't it a good thing to teach children?
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• United States
17 Mar 09
Not a 5 year old. Older children but not kindergartners.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
I have no problem with teaching them about how the government works and the election process. But it needs to be unbiased and fair. When they get older and get into social studies and history they will be told about the presidents. THey are too young to understand economics and foreign policy or if a president is doing a good job or not. They do need to learn how their government works...but not about only one president. Are they doing other cartoon shows about our other presidents? NO. Just Obama.
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@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Why?
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• United States
18 Mar 09
I remember plenty of political cartoons when I was little. Mostly they were about how the government works, what the president does, what congress is, things like that. I don't see anything wrong with children being made aware of who's in charge of their country, and what that job means. Obama is a people's president. We haven't had one of those in a very long time, but he isn't the first president who has so prominently been featured in the media. Clinton guest starred on television shows when he was president - and even appeared in children's movies. I really don't see anything wrong with it. And besides, it's going to be much easier to explain the intricate workings of American politics to children as they get older when they already have a good foundation of the basics.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
I take it you did not watch the video. It is not about how the gov works. It is about how "great" Obama is. What his favorite things are like cooking and playing basketball. I have no problem with young kids learning how our gov works. But the need to leave the propaganda til they are older. At this age it is just brain washing.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
My computer doesn't have sound, no, so I couldn't actually watch the video. But I don't see how a little video telling kids that Obama is a good *person* is propaganda. Regardless of views on politics or what sort of president he is, he is a good person. Pointless and maybe a little weird? Yeah, I can see that, but I can't really agree it's propaganda. If there's no real political bent, it falls outside that term.
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• United States
18 Mar 09
I don't really see anything wrong with it. However, I would feel more comfortable if they would do shows on other presidents as well. I don't think that a children's TV show will have enough influence on them to set their political beliefs, but I would like to see both sides of the political spectrum on such shows. Maybe they could just have guest appearances of other past presidents. I think you can make it fun and educational for the children without setting in bias.
• United States
18 Mar 09
I would feel more comfortable if it was about how the government works. You know what congress is, what they do, how laws are made. What the job of the president is. Things like that. Who really cares what obama's favorite color is or what his hobbies are. Why is that important for a small chid to know?
• United States
18 Mar 09
I myself do not see anything wrong with the video and my 2 year old has learned from noggin who the President of the Us is. I am cool with really. Bush was not an historic event in less you want to count the shape he got this country. President Obama however is Being the first African American President. The first Historcial event my Childern have gotten to witness. So I really do not see the harm in the video. its got my 2 thumbs up!
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I recently went into a bookstore while waiting for take out to be ready. I was only in the store for 10 minutes looking for board books for my son. But lo and behold in the childrens' section were many books about Obama!... Indoctrination must begin at an early age.
• United States
18 Mar 09
That is the problem. We hold up the wrong poeple in our society. Rock stars....why do we worship them? Sure they make good music but their personal lives are a mess. Same for movie stars and politicans.
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I completely agree with you and will not be purchasing any such books for my son or anyone in my family. I do disagree with you though because the President will be going on a late night talk show - so apparently he is a celebrity and a rock star! You just happen to see that the emperor truly does not have any new clothes!
@daneg33 (1128)
• Canada
18 Mar 09
I think it is because Obama is going to change the world as we know it and make history. We live in Canada and my young son who is only 4 already knows the name "Barack Obama" and loves to say his name over and over again. You have to wonder where that comes from... it must be from the television!
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Obama is president of the united states, not president of the world. If you want Canada changed, I suggest you look to your MP's and Harper for that. We don't asign worship to our political figures here and conditioning our children to do so is a very dangerous road to take. It is the exact mentality that allowed hitler to atain the power he did.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Mar 09
How so? I meant nothing harsh.
@daneg33 (1128)
• Canada
18 Mar 09
Wow that's a bit over the top....