Creative Punishments

@TLChimes (4822)
United States
May 5, 2009 7:26am CST
A fellow MyLotter got me thinking. Well, many of you do that but she sparked this thought. What punishment can be given to criminals that has them serving us instead of just time? I'm thinking something for the greater good. I know they've done things like- making license plates, doing road work, canning chicken (yuck) taking care of the prison operations like laundry. But I want something for a greater greater good. Something to give back what they took. I'm looking for your creative punishments......
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
5 May 09
There are tramps who spend their lives sleeping on park benches or in railway stations while prisoners have a roof over their head and hot meals. Maybe some structure could be created where the criminals could become 'servants' to those poor humble tramps who, mostly not by choice, have nothing. The country-side need cleaning up. I don't mean the roadsides but those vast areas of land that no-one uses except when they are going from one place to another on long-distance trips. There is always a lot to keep clean in the cemetaries here too and not always relations live near enough to tend the graves of their loved ones. Those criminals are not punished nearly enough as some in our society who just went off track and ended up with nothing. So unfair.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
4 Aug 09
Thank you Chimes!
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
5 May 09
We think more alike then I thought. Interesting. I have a soft spot for "tramps" I slept in a car for a while as a kid (11). Not my choice and not much help. I think your idea is a good one. Thanks again for the inspiration.
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@krajibg (11923)
• Guwahati, India
5 May 09
Some ten years back there was an IPS officer named as Kiran Bedi and she kinda totally transformed the gaol life and the inmates had something to do creative and it was a festival sort of. This was focused by media and political people that Kiran had lots of novelty under her sleeve but sadly enough the god job was no more appreciated and she faces music specially from the ruling political parties and now she is free from the bondage of the democratic slavery. All are selfish and the good job hardly reaches the milestone.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
5 May 09
politics tends to ruin many good ideas and when people get punished for thinking then people stop thinking.
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@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
5 May 09
hhmm the chain gang pops up in my head let them work rebuilding bridges an roads
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
We could really use some free road work here.... a wonderful thought for sure!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 May 09
I saw one for a juvenile delinquent. His mom made him stand at an intersection with a sign saying exactly what it was that he had done. But take it one step further and have him perform some kind of community service with the sign.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
A young man killed this young lady. The judge came up with the best punishment ever.... Every week the man had to send the mother of the other driver a check for one dollar. It had to be a check. It couldn't be sent ahead or all at once (He tried) It would remind him forever what he had done. When he was interviewed years later he said that he hated the punishment but that was because it worked and changed how he did things and looked at the world. He was still writing those weekly checks a year or so back.
• United States
5 May 09
I think they should plant trees get them involved in reforestation Did you know that they also train service dogs?
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
5 May 09
I've some wonderful things about the dog programs! I love the re-foresting idea, too. Help people, wildlife, and the Earth... that's great!
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@rocketsky (1013)
• China
5 May 09
if have the power to judge ,I will let them to develop their own talents in prison , i will investigate what kind of things they could do ,and then let them do . for example. if a criminal is good at writing :) just let him write .haha maybe I am so stupid
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• United States
5 May 09
they already do that that isnt serving the greater good its only serving the criminal and they should be serving something other than themselves
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
5 May 09
While I agree that they should LEARN something, I think they should be paying for what they've done that benefits everyone.
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@GardenGerty (157813)
• United States
6 May 09
This is not new, nor is it mine. It is not really a punishment, but is a rehabilitation. Prisoners are given a chance to socialize abandoned dogs or dogs that will be trained as therapy dogs. It often turns their life around as well as helping an animal become adoptable.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
I love this one!!!! I've heard great things about the program. There has been a couple of specials on TV about it. The criminals are so.... non-criminal when they talk about their dogs.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Personally, I think we lock up people for stupid reasons. For example, almost no first offense of a non violent crime should be grounds for incarceration. Most of the people who are convicted of such crimes are otherwise productive, tax paying people. There is little point in separating non violent offenders from society. Lock up should be reserved for flight risks, repeat offenders and (most of all) violent offenders. Personally, I think we have done justice, non violent offenders and our society a disservice by doing all we can to remove humiliation from our penal system. For first offenders of non violent crimes, I say put them on public display, in the stocks for a couple of hours a day. Put big signs over their stocks with their name and what they did. We also need more "jails" like Sheriff joe Arpaio's in Arizona. A few weeks in a tent out in the middle of the desert or plains, with only balony sandwiches to eat and water to drink just might be what a would-be wayward American needs to remind them of why they don't want to continue in the waywardness. ;~D
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
I love the tent city! I love to hear them complain about it too.... green lunch meat... poor babies. We have a tv station with child support fathers on it.... the ones who are $5,000 or more in the hole. They hate it. See, put those non-violent to work for the greater good. Pay the whole instead of us footing the bill.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
5 May 09
First, I think that they should be put in their victim's place. A rapist should be raped, a child molester should be molested, a robber should know the terror of his victim. Then, along with daily therapy sessions, they should be made to work for free for organizations that battle the crimes they committed. When they are released from prison they should have a job waiting or they don't get out. Maybe we should have a separate city for lawbreakers that is tightly controlled and helps them integrate into society. But child molesters should be dropped on a shark-surrounded island and left there with no outside support and no more contact with the world.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
5 May 09
Oh boy, I just re-read your post. I got so caught up in justice that I forgot the main point of your post! Ok, they should serve society for the duration of their punishment. They can work in soup kitchens, grow produce for the poor and working poor, fix the cars of people who can't afford to fix their own. They can do things for free-except no exposure to children-for people who are struggling to keep their heads above water. When a fridge breads, a convict will fix it rather than send that person into a never-ending cycle of credit card debt. A/c and heating, same thing. Home repairs, under strict supervision, car repairs, generally helping people to get on their feet and not get snowed under.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
5 May 09
I like both replies..... justice is wonderful and you idea to serve is great. I would keep them from people and saving having to have people watch them on the outside.... have an exchange program. Trade in the old fridge for a rebuilt... Then turned in fridge is then fixed, cleaned, and traded out. It's a good plan! Bonus.... they have a trade when they get out!
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• Netherlands
5 May 09
You have a interesting point of view. Thing is, if you 'rape the rapist' etc, you're just as low as the rapist in the first place. Also, if you would place all criminals in one city like you suggested, that would a) get them to help eachother and b) not really help them if they are trying to get back to society. Instead, I think people should do free work while being controlled. Anything they can do within their prison could be helpful. Don't make them do things no one benefits, instead, choose activities which will help everyone. I also liked the idea of letting people work things which will help the group they hurt with their actions.
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5 May 09
Hi TLChimes, They can always work down in the sewers cleaning out the drains, now that would be the greater good for everybody. Tamara
7 May 09
Hi TLChimes, Tamara
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
Hello Tamara, Now that's a job most people wouldn't want. I'm all for giving it to someone who broke the law. They are sure to say something like "This job stinks" Have a great day! Chimes
• United States
6 May 09
Good topic. It does make you stop and think. For the "trustees"- they could help out in transport and aid in eating, company etc for residents of nursing home. Freeing up aides etc to do the tasks that more traning is needed for. Infact, I am sure some would even benefit with cena training. Then for the last part of their sentence they could work shifts at prison rates. I am sure there are inmates that would actually relish the chance. Other places for inmates of this stature are: animal shelters, mental institutions, etc. Places where there is never enough help available to provide the best care possible. Other areas help is needed to improve economics: local farms, packing plants, lawncare and snow shuveling for the elderly and shut-ins. etc,etc,etc, I don't pretend to know the dynamic of making it work, phyc profiles, etc.- just and idea that could be developed.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
6 May 09
That is just the thing I thought of! I think areas like that would be great. The trustees are great with dogs (there are programs for that) so maybe other areas too... always kept under watch.
• United States
8 May 09
I think they should be made to grow farmers crops day in and day out and sleep on the farm kind of like a camp. Those produce products should go to local families that are in need of assistance. They should work in speacial car shops with security of course and they would work for those that need help without having to pay. Things like that would benefit everyone. They should also be forced to educate themselves while in jail so they can become productive members of society.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
12 May 09
Sounds perfect to me!!!
• United States
6 May 09
Hi TLChimes! I think of it this way, while raising 2 boys and teaching preschool I found that logical consequences for their actions always helped! If they were touching things in the store I had them put their hands on their heads! They really hated that one-but it did work. Now if we could only find logical consequences for people who commit crimes that would be great!
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
12 May 09
Sounds simple coming from parents who used creative consequences for their kids.... but the powers that be forget.
@vandana7 (99067)
• India
14 Sep 15
I loved this discussion. I think we need to deny them right to own any properties in the country. That right should essentially be confined to law abiding citizens.
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