72 year old great grandmother tased?!

@JenInTN (27546)
United States
June 21, 2009 4:50pm CST
I saw this on the news the other night and was appalled. An officer tased a 72 year old woman! I know she was getting a little excited but was tasing her the answer? I'll tell you..I don't feel good about this one at all. What do you think? Do you think the officer was doing his job? Do you think she should have been tased? YouTube - Video Released of Grandmother Being Tased www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxhYaUjZUI0
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
21 Jun 09
That is outrageous!! What an A$$ he was plus a wimp. Crying shame somebody didn't take it away from him & use it on him.
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
22 Jun 09
See my comments below. She was in the wrong.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
22 Jun 09
WONDER how u would feel if that had been your mother or grandmother. we got your message about 6 times she didn't comply.
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Heyya jo! I do think he went a little to far with the taser. I know she was excited and very aggravated but I'm with you that it should have been handeled a little differently. He could have said...miss let's move out of the traffic while pushing her.
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@celticeagle (123903)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Jun 09
Usually the police tell the person they are going to do it before it happens. I am sad to see this. Couldn't say if I really think it right or not. Any kind of violence or hurting another is not something I am comfortable with but it does happen.
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
21 Jun 09
I hate violence too. I know she was getting a little out of hand but I just wish he hadn't of tased her. I just wish he would have tried a different approach. Thanks for the response.
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@celticeagle (123903)
• Boise, Idaho
21 Jun 09
I know you don't but I think that may have been the policeman's only option.
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
22 Jun 09
But when you are in a situation, you have to make quick decisions that will bring the event to the best possible solution. She was moving them into traffic, was getting increasingly more nuts and should have just stopped. He was not happy with it but did what he had to do in the situation. Better to be tased for a moment than hit by a car. All she had to do was comply.
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@paula27661 (15898)
• Australia
23 Jun 09
I do think the woman was obnoxious but the officer was a bully who was clearly irritated with her from the get go. The video is disturbing and I don’t think the tasing was necessary, surely… I heard that tasing is safe for most people but this is an elderly woman! She was in the wrong for sure and should not get away with breaking the law but the cop went too far and could have handled the situation a lot better.
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Hi paula..I agree. She should have got the ticket and the charge..being older does not exempt us from the law..but the taser? That was a bit much. I think with his training he could have gotten those handcuffs on her with little effort. Thanks for the response.
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@paula27661 (15898)
• Australia
23 Jun 09
You're probably right there!
@se7enthbird (8324)
• Philippines
21 Jun 09
for me this is a difficult situation. when i was a child i wanted to be a policeman and seeing this, is really difficult. the policeman from the start knows that it was an old lady who was driving the vehicle so atleast he must have made a different approach. old people are kinda hot tempered people so i think the police office must treat the old woman as a lady and not as a truck driver. har har har. if the police sees this as doing their job, fine. but there is more than doing the job and respect people specially the old ones. give her a ticket for she broke the law or assist her on the highway just to make sure that she wont hurt any other people while she is driving her car. but make sure that she will not drive on high ways anymore for in one way or another she might hurt herself or hurt some inocent people
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@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I feel that she resisted arrest, he was trying to keep her out of traffic, the reason why he gently pushed her, and she was being an A##!! If she were younger, people would have not said a thing. Age does not mean you can break the law and resisting arrest is just that.
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Heyya se7enthbird! How have you been? I do agree that it is a very difficult situation. Police are surely faced with them everyday. I just wished it had have been handeled differently I guess. Your right about the truckdriver versus granny..there is a difference. Thanks for the response.
@ElicBxn (61137)
• United States
21 Jun 09
Some MORON in Austin is what! Granted she was a pretty fisty old lady, but that deputy is a MORON!
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
21 Jun 09
I did feel like he could have done something to have prevented things from getting so out of hand.
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@ElicBxn (61137)
• United States
21 Jun 09
we suspect he might be one of the in-bred, red necks or cedar wackers that are locally produced
@Glow1971 (354)
• Spain
5 Jul 09
Oh my goodness I can't believe this has happened! All he had to do was handcuff her, don't you think? She can't do anything to him anyway, she's an older woman, he's taller and stronger. I don't believe tasing her was the answer. I do believe he was only doing his job but it was unnecessary to do this to her.
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
6 Jul 09
Hi Glow! I'm thinking he could have handcuffed too. Taser just seemed a little much for my taste. I do know he was doing his job and she was being defiant but I think it could have been handeled a little better. Thanks for the input!
@kellyjeanne (1576)
• United States
1 Jul 09
That is appalling and should not be acceptable. She could have had a heart attack or a seizure. The older you get the less your body can handle. If anything happened to her as a result of the taser the officer should be held responsible! Purrs, Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
1 Jul 09
Your right Catwoman! There are a lo tof dangers with the taser. Especially to the elderly. Thanks for the response.
@callarse1 (4786)
• United States
24 Jun 09
Unfortunately she was the one that kept taunting and at even point when he warned her several times she was the one who said "then tase me". While there may have been a better way it appeared as if she was going to walk into traffic...plus there were several warnings that they were gonna use the taser. Jen, I really cannot answer the question of my opinion because I am not a police officer, but I can leave you all with the rhetorical question: If, after being warned of the tased several times, then you tell them to do it, can you call it fair? The article tells you what happened: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/31202935/
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
24 Jun 09
Hi callarse! I do agree she was out of line..and warned a few times as well. I guess I was just very surprised that he did it. I think that with a little more communication that it could have been prevented but I'm not an officer either so who knows. I guess if I had felt threatened I would have. Thanks for responding.
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@goldeneagle (6774)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Being a former officer myself...I am going to weigh in on this one from a perspective that may be a little different from what you were expecting... I have watched the video. He repeatedly warned the woman that if she didn't comply, she would be zapped. When he pushed he backwards the first time, he had already asked her to step back to put some distance between them and the passing traffic. When he informed her that she was under arrest and that she needed to put her hands behind her back, she did not comply with his demands, meaning that at this point, she was resisting arrest. It looks to me like he was justified in zapping her. Would you rather he had physically taken her down to the ground and cuffed her? I think he did the right thing. If I had to criticize one thing about this, I would have to say that I would have probably been more inclined to give her a couple more chances (but not too many more) to put her hands on the hood of the patrol car once I got her back away from the road. In the end, however, if she had not complied, I would probably have zapped her too if I had the taser at my disposal. When I was an officer, we did not have tasers. In this situation, we would have had two choices...We could have sprayed her with pepper spray, which we would have been LEGALLY justified in doing, or we could have taken her to the ground physically and cuffed her. As an officer, contrary to popular belief, I did NOT have to stand there and argue with a person in this situation. Once SHE escalated the situation to the point where I told her she was under arrest (which the woman did in this case), it was my RESPONSIBILITY to get her cuffed and in the car with as little risk to MYSELF (first) and to her as possible. This office did this. He stopped the situation from escalating into a struggle that could have ended up dangerously close to passing traffic, which would have put both the officer and the old lady in danger... This officer's performance was right on in my opinion. I hope they charge this lady with the speeding ticket, and with resisting arrest as well. She had her chance to sign the ticket and then take her case to court to protest the charges, but she chose to be a b!tch, and she paid the price...
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Thank you very much for your professional input on this subject. I do see what your saying and understand where you are coming from in justifying the officer's actions. I think that you are right in saying it could have gotten worse if he had not taken action. I do think he could have physically put those handcuffs on her though without the use of a taser. I guess officers are often put into situations in which they have to go with their first instincts. Maybe he was feeling threatened..I dunno. Thanks again.
@nicholejade (2430)
• Canada
22 Jun 09
I'm sorry I am going to have to agree with the cop for doing his job. With this woman being so unruly she kinda did deserve it. She refused to sign it and sorry just because you are 72 years old doesn't mean you don't get tickets. He was only arresting her. If she wants to go and blow up on him well he had to do something. She was also pushing him out onto the Freeway/Highway. She could of not only pushed him out and killed him but could of killed herself. What was he suppose to do. He did warn her that he was going to tase her for her behaviour.
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Hi nicholejade! No need to apologize. I respect honest opinions. I do know she was a hand full and that the officer was being put in a position. I was just a little shocked he tased her. Thanks for the input.
@rsa101 (24236)
• Philippines
22 Jun 09
Wow that is really rude of that police man. I guess he doesn't deserved to be on that badge. I guess it is pretty normal for older people to get irritated easily because they are old and we should respect that whatever our position in society is. I guess that was an overkill for that policeman to taze that old lady and should be given disciplinary sanctions.
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@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Hi rsa! Thanks for the input. I can see both sides but I do feel like the taser was a bit much.
@bmc616 (23)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Yea I saw that on the news the other night, man I hate how Law enforcement do people, not all but all the ones I see are either too over powering and take matter into their own hands the wrong way, we are people too. It just shows that they think since they have the "badge" they can do what ever the hell they want. It's sooo crazy some of them I cannot stand, I mean its cool they are here to protect us and enforce the laws but they treat people bad a lot of the times I don't think that lady deserved to be treated like that, regardless of age I don't think anyone should be tased what the hell is tasers for half the time they are killing people anyway....MAN
@bmc616 (23)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Yea, they are very dangrous, sending a eltrocution type bolt to your body, VERY dangerous, I've never been tased let alone arrested and I'm keeping in that way...making sure I prevent that from happening lol...And another thing, have u ever watched cops or and other police shows like the person is like giving up or have gave up and they tase them for no apparent reason, I'm like what the hell!!??
@emilie2300 (1889)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I am sure he could of done something else. That was just un called for. He did not have a right to do that to her. Things are not getting better out there its getting worse. I have a friend who knows a cop that shot a 20 some year old in the hand and and the cop was at a bar. They didnt take his breatalizer till 3 or 4 hours later. It BS the cop got off with it and there was 2 witness is. So the kid is haveing it appealed...
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Some of them are given a lot more power and protection than they deserve. I know that there are cases in which tasers have been needed but I'm not so sure this was one of them. Thanks for responding.
• United States
24 Jun 09
Yeah they are givin alot more then what they need. That was a scene that did not need to go that route she didnt need tasered. Happy My lotting to you also...
@reploid (1331)
• France
21 Aug 09
I really believe that the police keep on arresting the wrong persons. I also believe that there's more criminals on the street than in jail. I really don't like it when the police start to arrest people for futile reasons.
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
21 Aug 09
That's a wise thing that you just said. There are more criminals on the street than there are in jail. Thanks for your input on this.
@dawnald (84069)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Jun 09
I read about that in the paper and it said that the officer's superior felt he had acted improperly. I think he overreacted. What was she going to do, body slam him?
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
I know..that's what I'm thinking...it would be different if she could have harmed him or something but I'm thinking he could have gotten those handcuffs on her without a whole lot of effort. They teach them those things in the police academy I thought..Thanks for the response.
@polachicago (19073)
• United States
22 Jun 09
Some people are getting crazy when society is giving them a power to control people. I can imagine what he can do if given more pour...scary... I think that he should be jailed or pay huge fee for that woman, so other officers are not tempting to repeat his action...
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
I think the same thing. I have seen police that get an extreme ego trip when they get their position. There are some people that should not be given that type of power..it goes to their head. Thanks for the input.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I saw this video on the news, too, and was appalled! I think some of these officers tase waaaaay too often and without regard for what is really going on. An elderly person that poses no real threat should never ever be tased. This can pose a threat to their heart!
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
I think that some of it may be in a way like a fad. When they started pepper spray...everyone was getting sprayed..now it's a taser..Those things are very dangerous depending on a person's health. An older one especially. Thanks for the input.
@baz5687 (131)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I doon't think that older people should be given immunity from the law BUT YOU HAVE TO BE MORE GENTLE WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Hi baz! I agree. I think if he had communicated with her a little better..it would have worked out differently. If he had said..mam..the traffic while pushing her it may have kept her from becoming as upset as she did. A push from anyone without explanation will cause us to read sensless aggression. Thanks for the response.
• United States
22 Jun 09
Was he justified in the use of the taser? Yes, she decided not to sign the ticket, so he was to put her under arrest she pulled away causing her speeding to become a case of resisting arrest, thus he had to get her under control so yes it is justifiable Was it necesary, no he did not need to resort to the taser, basic joint locks would have worked on her or even brute force to keep her hand behind her back, SHES 77 how can she over power you unless your a wimp.
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
23 Jun 09
Hi firerex! I see what your saying. I wish he would have handeled it differently but he probably won't be reprimended because of the fact she was so noncompliant. It did give him probable cause but I think a joint lock or better communication might have worked out too. Thanks for the response.
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I saw it and the dumb bunny was resisting arrest, he was trying to get her out of traffic. Just because someone is old, if they break the law, they break the law. When I first heard about it, I was upset, until I saw the footage. Better he did that than her getting herself or him hit by oncoming traffic. All she had to do was comply and I did not see anything inappropriate from the officer.
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
22 Jun 09
I do see what your saying about her being very upset. I know that officers are put in the line of fire everyday by hardened criminals and that sometimes they have to do what they have to do. I just wish with this situation he had taken a different approach. The footage does show resistance. And your right..if it had been someone that was younger and more able..I might feel differently. Breaking the law is breaking the law but does that situation really need such drastic measures? Maybe he felt like he had to do what he had to do at the time but did he really have to tase her? A two hundred pound truck driver coming at you at the age of twenty five..versus great granny at 72..well...to me there is a difference. Thanks for the input nanajanet..I do agree she was resistant..it is just a shame it came to that. Take care.