Bill Gates on immigration

@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
July 25, 2009 3:14pm CST
I read with interest this morning an interview with Bill Gates where he criticized America's policy on immigration. He said, in effect, that our immigration policy is too tough, and that more "smart people" should be allowed to immigrate. He was referring to people such as engineers, etc. The article was on The Register's website. I disagree with his judgment in this matter since I believe that this would be exclusionary. Of course the best and brightest are always a welcome addition to any culture, but everyday people also can have something worthwhile to contribute also. Do you agree with Gates that only the best and brightest should be allowed to emigrate to the United States, or do you believe that common, everyday people can also contribute to society in a meaningful way?
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@ckhair13 (185)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Anybody should be allowed to come here as long as they do it LEGALLY...I am not from here & I had to do all the paperwork & wait & wait & wait...its really no fun, but its also not fair to sneak into the country & get a free ride. If I had to do it the legal way then everyone else that comes here should have to also. But I don't believe telling someone that they can't come here cuz they aren't smart enough is definitely not fair either...
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@kdmlrys (398)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I totally agree. Legality should be the basis.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Of course I assume that Mr. Gates was referring to legal immigrants, ckhair. Obviously those who sneak into the country are undesirable whether they are smart or not.
@rainmark (4302)
25 Jul 09
I do agree with you too. It's not because you are smart, but it should be legal too, which is more important. Here in Uk lots of illegal immigrants are living here now, and some of them are getting benefits from the government.
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@dex1007 (556)
• Malaysia
26 Jul 09
I'm currently an immigrant myself. And this is an interesting topic. see, bill gates is trying to filter people coming into his country. he, like many other might believe that immigrants can contribute to the society, and that he needs them. but he also might think that a common immigrant might take a job that an american could have, more immigrants can lead to less american having jobs, OR can lead to less immigrants having jobs, walking the streets, hungry. which leads to crime rates. either by immigrants or by locals. by him saying that letting the brightest and best immigrants in, he's filtering it. Its a matter of opinion. As an american, i might think that's a good idea, but as a non-american, i might say thats injustice, and is discrimination. I don't know really. I recently saw this indian movie called 'new york'. it showed how an indian who was a citizen of america was arrested by the FBI after the 9/11 and was tortured so bad. just because he took the twin towers picture for his assignment before the 9/11 event. he was completely innocent. but 9 months of torture made him into a terrorist. i suggest everyone should watch that movie. look at it from the asian point of view.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Why then, dex, would Mr. Gates not hire some of the already out-of-work people who already live here in America if he's so interested in the best and brightest? Why should he go chasing waterfalls in foreign waters? There are plenty of the best and the brightest right here. I still maintain that his position is exclusionary.
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@dex1007 (556)
• Malaysia
27 Jul 09
gosh, you expect me to make sense of how gates' mind ticks. hehe. He might already have some of the best people in america working for him. people from different countries can bring something new, experiences shape a human, he might be looking for new creativity sources. lol. nice topic. :)
@celticeagle (159058)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Jul 09
What about the engineers we have here already in this country that can't find work? I know of one in particular. I disagree with his judgement also. And we didn't have the dummer people here what in the world would we do with the money we use on food stamps and welfare? LOL Gates philosophy is getting real close to that of our favorite hate from Germany. White supremacy. I very definitely believe that the common, everyday people can also contribute to society in a meaningful way. We have teachers, manufacturers, security guards, and even mechanics. Think what they do for us everyday?
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Yes, celticeagle, even the lowly factory worker makes a significant contribution to society. There will always be a place for ordinary people who do the jobs that the "brains" wouldn't stoop to doing.
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@celticeagle (159058)
• Boise, Idaho
26 Jul 09
Right on!
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I think anyone should be allowed to come here as long as they go through the proper legal channels. I also think Bill Gates is another guy who is smart and successful in one area of life, so he then feels compelled to comment on other areas. With 50+ billion dollars, Gates could privately fund immigration reform. If he wants more engineers, designers, inventors, and whatever else he deems as qualified, he might want to think about creating a corporation for the purposes of hiring them. That way, immigrants wouldn't have any trouble applying and receiving working visas or whatever other documentation they need.
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@megaplaza (1441)
• Nigeria
25 Jul 09
Thats what is killing africa, incase you don't know about brain drain. Every year intelligent africans are given Visa to travel to USA. Those that performs over there are give visas for their family members. Emeagwali has all about 25 of his close relative give American Visa after his ground breaking work in 80's. They are not just given Visa, it seems they are somehow held from going back to their country maybe through incentives. Evey year they select bright nigerians and send them to USA. So an not suprised to hear that.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Your observations are factual, matersfish, and I agree that Gates has enough money to enable some of those people he views as desirable entry into the country, unless there are serious reasons for their rejection.
• Philippines
25 Jul 09
I agree with him. During these times you need best people that can help your economy boost. It will be faster if you get people from other places than to train its citizen to contribute to ecomonic recovery. That's just my opinion.
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@megaplaza (1441)
• Nigeria
25 Jul 09
And to the detriment of their country, why not take the uneducate and non-professional from those country and train them. Lol, u want the best for your country.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, vined, but what about all of the untapped talent that might be missed simply because they were never given the chance to shine?
• Philippines
26 Jul 09
The United States should not be selfish. Unlike other countries, the U.S. is paranoid with Sept.11 terror attacks. They place a lot of restrictions, limitations on immigrations. With the current crisis, only immigration can help the U.S.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Terrorist attack my foot. That is what our government sold the American Public who sold it hook line and sinker but tons of video clips show it was deliberately done and planned by our own government. It was done so there would be an out cry so GW BUSH and CONGRESS could declare an act of War on Iraq. American bought it and Bush and congress got what they wanted. We are NOT selfish that is part of the problem we have been overly generous again and again and again to other nations but our own people many live in poverty due to job loss, downsizing, there is tons of discrimination toward older Americans over 40 and people get sick. Most in poverty are NOT there because they want to be. Circumstance and life have put them there and people who are selfish to their own neighbors, family and friends or church members turning a deliberate blind eye while they send missionaries and food and clothing over seas and help the illegals here and endorse the legals. Bill Gates did not come by his gain honestly he stole other peoples ideas and used them to get where he is. He is not very well educated. His internet site is full of trojans and worms and back doors. He is paraniod. He is cheap and wants cheap labor. I have no respect for that man whatsoever.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Selfish, edwardclint? I beg to differ! Walk down any street in this country and you're liable to meet more immigrants than natural-born or naturalized citizens. What country wouldn't be wary after such an event as 9/11? I don't see how you surmise that more immigration can possibly help the U.S.
@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Common, everyday people, when given the chance, sometimes become extraordinary people. I do not believe we should focus on bringing in just the elite, but I do believe that certain types of criminals and terrorists should be kept out. We have enough of those that are home grown.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
You echo my sentiments exactly, GG! The possibility of achieving excellence is within most everyone - given the right opportunities.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
26 Jul 09
I think America should close the door on ALL immigration until every legal citizen who is abled bodied and wants or needs a job has one before bringing in foreigners who keep taking jobs from people who are already here and well educated but are consistantly not hired as immigrants can and do take jobs at a lower wage and group together to share expenses and housing. There are people with college educations who cannot find work who are born or naturalized citizens because immigrants get the jobs. I know of two doctors not USA citizens one from South Africa another from India. I know people from Mexico and Spain and Greece who have jobs while American citizens cannot get work. The standard of living is higher and so is the expectation. We need to put people out of work to work before bringing in even more competetion and more mouths to feed. There was a time when America had plenty go around and people could find homes, land and settle and make a living that day is long past. Now too many people are being allowed in from brightest to the not so bright and given a helping hand with housing, medical and more while our own people go begging and don't even have decent health care. If I were someone from another country I would question the sanity of really immigrating right now to a nation that is crumbling from within. If you don't take care of those of your own house hold first how can you take care of your neighbors?
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Well said, Celanith! Charity begins at home and then goes abroad! Gates should ask himself where all of the unemployed factory workers and so many like them will find jobs. Some of these people are very smart already. Our country is bursting at the seams due to the influx of so many immigrants(legal and illegal), and they just keep allowing more to come in.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Hey worldwise! I'm really not sure how I feel about immigration. It is so out of control at this point! If we had the choice to pick who comes into the country it might be different! But, being that we don't it does make things a bit different! Right now we have some many illegal immigrants entering the US that it really makes if very difficult for us to be even slightly selective! This is what is so maddening about this particular question! We don't seem to have a choice on who enters our country and it has gotten so extremely out of hand now!
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
I believe, Opal, that if our government followed the letter of the law on immigration there wouldn't be such a huge problem at all. In some cases they have become too permissive, while in other cases they are too restrictive.The result being that many people enter this country unlawfully via borders that are sadly under protected.
@rainmark (4302)
25 Jul 09
I think Bill Gates really underestimated those people who are not smart, we can educate and teach them and in other ways they are also useful in country. As long as they come to the country with clean intention and in legal ways.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
I couldn't agree with you more, rainmark. I've found that sometimes it is the average guy that is capable of doing great things!
@abenitez (501)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I think that it should either be all or nothing. You cant let educated people come and forget about all the other people. That is not right.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
I believe we're on the same page, abenitez.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
26 Jul 09
I believe it should be all or nothing but if we have everyone immigrating here we don't want the criminals. If they have a criminal record from their country they should not be allowed to come here. To many times people have been murdered by illegal imigrants.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
This isn't about the criminal element, lelin, but rather it is about singling out only the brainiest people to come here.
@tundeemma (894)
• South Africa
26 Jul 09
i think it is the simple truth and Bill gate is right in his own way, it looks as if more criminals are being allowed into the united states more than good people and that is why crime rate will continue to get high, it will be ideal for the US to change its immigration policies and let serious minded people get in
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Your statement does not make sense, tundeemma, because you insinuate that smart people cannot be criminals. That just isn't true! Just look at Bernie Madoff, for example. I believe that the craftiest crooks are the ones with the brains.
• Japan
26 Jul 09
After Bill Gates's retirement, he are focusing about the politics of this country, his company has A large quantity of talents,but he doesn't content to stand still, he want to absorb more smart people spread all over unite state, promote technology ,economy,health and humanity more fast, his ambition always are awesome, i believe he can become the new president of america in the future.(laugh)
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
His billions won't gain him the presidency, ayukawasouhiko. I can pretty much guarantee that. American voters are not overly impressed with money. While his desire is to increase technology, etc., he should not forget that his wealth has been gained in a large part due to millions of everyday people who buy his products.
@kdmlrys (398)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I'm a big fan of Bill Gates and his works (both Microsoft and his Philanthropic activities). I don't really know what he meant by what he said from that interview. Is it, "smart people" from other countries should be allowed to migrate to America or is it, "smart people" from America should be allowed to migrate to other countries? Anyhow, I don't think he's making any "intelligence-discrimination" here. Of course, any person, regardless of how smart you are, can contribute something useful for the society. What he said from that interview is probably just a figure-of-speech.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Jul 09
His comments were made in reference to his position that America is shortchanging itself by refusing to allow people from certain countries into the country. He did not elaborate on just which ones he referred to.
• India
26 Jul 09
I believe this is something that should be having a privacy tag with it.Some person does and should have some privacy.Think out on some other topic for better conclusions.Have a nice day